T0mShane Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Rex never used Revis as a punt returner but the Tuna used Aaron Glenn as a KOR.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Whatver ya say. How's Idzik doing in that job hunt btw? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 The Jets are the only team in the NFL that has the perception that the Coach is also the GM. You never hear about Tom Coughlin being connected the personnel decisions with the Giants - all they talk about is Jerry Reese making the moves. He gets the 2 Bowl wins pass you should know that..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBallhawk Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 I think they fell off when the Ghost was picked.. Or was it the Boar hunter or drafting a kicker with a 2nd rd pick?? LOL Please tell me you're not getting into comparing who drafted more busts. This is going to end really bad for you if you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Please tell me you're not getting into comparing who drafted more busts. This is going to end really bad for you if you do. Nothing ends bad for me because I deal in the truth.. FYI Parcells has to be the worst when it comes to bad drafting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Nothing ends bad for me because I deal in the truth.. FYI Parcells has to be the worst when it comes to bad drafting.. Who's a good drafter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I wonder what the smart jets fans who are still in love with Mangini are going to say when he tanks as the 49ers DC next year? That'll be like the 57th time he's failed in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 ? ? RLLOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 If EJ Emanuel is their plan... I don't see that amazing D being enough to get them last the Pats. We don't even know who the Jets QB will be who cares who the Bills QB is?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 The Jets are the only team in the NFL that has this perception that the Coach is also the GM. You never hear about Tom Coughlin being connected the personnel decisions with the Giants - all they talk about is Jerry Reese making the moves. You don't hear about Chuck Pagano making draft decisions for the Colts. Interesting. Probably because we hire numbers guys and we fans assume the coah need be involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Who's a good drafter? In the last 15 years?? Best players drafted IMO were in 06-07 Mangold,Brick.Revis and Harris.. In order to get Mangold we traded Abe who I liked and I'm probably the only one that did..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Interesting. Probably because we hire numbers guys and we fans assume the coah need be involved. That a good point but he could also listen to the scouting dept as well one would think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Interesting. Probably because we hire numbers guys and we fans assume the coah need be involved. Well yeah it's safe to make the assumption that the scouting department and rest of the front office don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 In 2009 with no QB, Rex reached the AFFC and was probably a healthy Shonn Greene away from reaching the SB. In 2013, the Jets roster was so awful playing behind a rookie QB that ESPN ranked them 32nd in the league and gave them two wins in the season. Yet they finished with an 8-8 record. Even with a horrible roster put together by Idzik this past season, they were a very competitive football team and a player away from having a double digit in the W column. So in your world, Rex gets all the credit for success and no blame for failure. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I think he assembled a great roster 97-2000' but there were a lot of trades and free agents. But he did draft some outstanding players. And in Dallas he found an undrafted QB who has become a top 10 guy, and two future HOF'ers in Ware and Whitten. Why do you think he is so bad at talent evaluation? I was talking about the Tuna as the Jet HC/GM.. He was better with Dallas but the real GM was Jerry Jones.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Toth Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Say what you will about the "TUNA"....But he put a sinking ship afloat and in the right direction......"PERIOD"....Unfortunetly Leon's light bulb went off late in his life.Had he brought him aboard sooner...We would have a few Lombardi's..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Say what you will about the "TUNA"....But he put a sinking ship afloat and in the right direction......"PERIOD"....Unfortunetly Leon's light bulb went off late in his life.Had he brought him aboard sooner...We would have a few Lombardi's..... We might have had some Lombardis if the Tuna would have guaranteed he would have taken Manning with the 1st pick in the draft in 1997.. I understand he was only coaching for 3 years and didn't want to deal with a rookie QB but it hurt the franchise in the long run which he didn't care about.. BTW does Sparano get credit for turning around the 1-15 Bills in 2008?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Say what you will about the "TUNA"....But he put a sinking ship afloat and in the right direction......"PERIOD"....Unfortunetly Leon's light bulb went off late in his life.Had he brought him aboard sooner...We would have a few Lombardi's..... We've said it before, but the poor play down the stretch in '98 in Denver will always haunt me. That team was stacked and should have won it all. We probably go back to the Super Bowl in '99 if Vinny doesn't rupture his Achilles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 We might have had some Lombardis if the Tuna would have guaranteed he would have taken Manning with the 1st pick in the draft in 1997.. I understand he was only coaching for 3 years and didn't want to deal with a rookie QB but it hurt the franchise in the long run which he didn't care about.. BTW does Sparano get credit for turning around the 1-15 Bills in 2008?? Never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Never happened. I posted the article last time you said that believe what you want..LOL He NEVER even approached Manning or anyone he knew that he was interested.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I posted the article last time you said that believe what you want..LOL He NEVER even approached Manning or anyone he knew that he was interested.. Archie, Peyton, Parcells. They all say it never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Toth Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Also after Peyton's Junior year at Tennesee coach Parcell's sat with archie Manning for hour's trying to persuade himto declare himself where the Jet's as is alway's the case woulda coulda shoulda pounced on him..Interesting article on future hall of fame inductee ron Wolf who spent 17 mos in our drafting department. Had a deal with the arizona cardinal's in place to move up to grab a rookie Brett Favre....But as being the case when your a Jet fan the guy arizona coveted was still on the board..alas..browning Nagle............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Oh and..... WE NEED MORE REX THREADS!!!! who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 My problem is why folks were/are so intensely vested in Rex and his reputation. We saw what the guy did to this organization over the last six years. Yeah, there were some good times, but look at the smoldering ashes around us. It's going to take years to rebuild this thing. Sure, I blame Woody, Tannendunce and Idiotzik for a good measure of our failure. But to absolve Rex from any of the dysfunction is, IMO, a head in the sand mentality. It will not take years to rebuild this 'thing'. With next year's schedule and very few additions to the roster we should easily be able to get to 8-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Archie, Peyton, Parcells. They all say it never happened. What they said was they were never approached and that is true.. The part that everyone leaves out was what his Mother said.. Peyton was interested but he wanted to know before April and when he didn't hear anything he went back to school.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 What they said was they were never approached and that is true.. The part that everyone leaves out was what his Mother said.. Peyton was interested but he wanted to know before April and when he didn't hear anything he went back to school.. They're on video. Peyton says he was going back to school. Archie says that it didn't take Peyton long to make the decision because he wanted to go back and beat Spurrier and win the conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Yeah me too. He did really well with the Jets and if Jones is the real GM then why did they struggle so much before and after Parcells? Before?? They won bowls before the Tuna was there.. They sucked when Dave Campo was the HC plus they had a coked out Quincy Carter as the QB. They went 13-3 after the Tuna left?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Archie, Peyton, Parcells. They all say it never happened. BB and Brady said they had nothing to do with deflate gate it was the weather..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Ok, Jimmy Johnson built those teams that won 3 titles. Jones admits it. And 13-3 happened like a half a decade after Parcells left. So it's not part of the convo ??? Parcells left in 06 and Wade Phillips went 13-3 in 07.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 ??? Parcells left in 06 and Wade Phillips went 13-3 in 07.. Man, that Wade Phillips must be an awesome coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Man, that Wade Phillips must be an awesome coach. You know who was on the Giants when the Tuna took over in 1983?? LT,Simms,Harry Carson,Joe Morris,Jim Burt, etc Man that Tuna is a awesome coach of course he only won 3 games but they were great wins.. It's so easy to play these games Tommy boy and BTW the Tuna is my favorite Jet coach and I go back to when the team started.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 You know who was on the Giants when the Tuna took over in 1983?? LT,Simms,Harry Carson,Joe Morris,Jim Burt, etc Man that Tuna is a awesome coach of course he only won 3 games but they were great wins.. It's so easy to play these games Tommy boy and BTW the Tuna is my favorite Jet coach and I go back to when the team started.. Boy then look at what poor ray Handley got left with in 91. They were a stacked 8-8 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Boy then look at what poor ray Handley got left with in 91. They were a stacked 8-8 team. Handley was the Giants Kotite.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Mangini's not the worst coach in Jets history. That would be Kotite. Most frustrating would be Joe Walton and Herm Edwards. Both were handed teams that were primed for a few years of good shots at a title. And managed to eff it up with scared stupidity. Ryan is right there, and while he was a good defensive coach he was limited when it came to offense. Would rather have O'Brien/Ryan or Testaverde/ presurgery Pennington than Sanchez. The less said about Smith the better. As bad an offensive coach as Ryan is he didn't really have a QB. Not that he would've known what to do with a real QB or cared. Give Rex Ryan Vinny Testaverde and he'd get pissed about INTs 40 yards upfield. Which is why Parcells was a great coach; don't obsess over what a player can't do, what can he do for you. Not saying Parcells is god or perfect merely a way better coach than anyone else that's been here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 That would be Kotite. Most frustrating would be Joe Walton and Herm Edwards. Both were handed teams that were primed for a few years of good shots at a title. And managed to eff it up with scared stupidity. Ryan is right there, and while he was a good defensive coach he was limited when it came to offense. Would rather have O'Brien/Ryan or Testaverde/ presurgery Pennington than Sanchez. The less said about Smith the better. As bad an offensive coach as Ryan is he didn't really have a QB. Not that he would've known what to do with a real QB or cared. Give Rex Ryan Vinny Testaverde and he'd get pissed about INTs 40 yards upfield. Which is why Parcells was a great coach; don't obsess over what a player can't do, what can he do for you. Not saying Parcells is god or perfect merely a way better coach than anyone else that's been here. And you know that how??When Kotite had a QB he went 11-5 with the Eagles and won a playoff game something Mangini never did.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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