JetBlue Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I didn't think Gholston did so great at the combine. He did what was expected. He didn't wow me like Patrick Willis or some of the others. Sherman ran in the mid to low 4.5s. I know it doesn't affect your point, but people will quote this and it will become "fact" like Jerry Rice's 4.7 (really in the 4.5s) or Fitzgerald's 4.7 (he didn't run). Jerry Rice ran a 4.6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Jerry Rice ran a 4.6. Walsh said it was 4.5 (not sure of the hundredth) Those were handtimed and apparently all over the map anyway. but I have seen it "reported" here as high as 4.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I won't knoiw how to behave or what to do with myself if the Jets take a WR at 6. I don't understand this mentality; if the best player at 6 is a wide out, which is very possible, why would that be a problem? Especially when many of the top receivers in this draft are ranked just has high or higher than last years (which was the best wr class in a decade.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Walsh said it was 4.5 (not sure of the hundredth) Those were handtimed and apparently all over the map anyway. but I have seen it "reported" here as high as 4.8 My bad it actually was 4.7. http://www.jetnation.com/2013/04/03/are-nfl-prospects-40-yard-dash-times-overvalued/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Mmmm let's see who we pick up in FA, this will give a lot away to our draft strategy. A lot of good players to pick no matter how the board falls. I think the trade down only comes into play if Mariota is on the board and Philly/Cleveland sell the farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Looking back at the 2008 draft we were #6 and there were five players that were "chalk": Jake Long Matt Ryan Chris Long Darren Mcfadden Glenn Dorsey If I remember correctly the majority of fans wanted Chris Long or Darren Mcfadden to fall to us. Gholston had gaudy stats but there was always a question about his motor. This draft appears to have a ton more options for us at #6 this time around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I am usually a BPA guy, but I would be insanely pissed if we didn't draft a QB, WR or OLB at 6. I know nothing compared to these guys, but does not the position a guy plays figure into whether he is the BPA? Is BPA just the most measurable guy? I think we should get the best guy to fit our needs. And we should rate some positions over others. For instance, I would take the best OLB over the best SS. Even if the best SS was higher on my board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 My bad it actually was 4.7. http://www.jetnation.com/2013/04/03/are-nfl-prospects-40-yard-dash-times-overvalued/ You are doing this to piss me off right? Other than Boldin, those times are bullsh*t and Boldin was huge. Fitzgerald didn't run and the reported time for Rice is one of those myths that get repeated so often they become "facts." I wrote a long, researched post about this, possibly in response to this particular article. Nothing against the author, he is quoting what is out there, but that does not make it factual. That is not a source, it does not cite sources, and if it did they would be wrong. Fitzgerald did not run at the combine - there were numerous potential reasons, he may have been hurt or he may have been worried about his petition to the league wouldn't be accepted. He was only a Pitt a couple of years, but used some prep school to cover the other year out of high school and that was when Clarrett's suit was going strong. He ran a 4.48 at his pro day, weighing 225. There is some moronic site called nflcombineresults that routinely has the wrong numbers up and Wikipedia quotes it. They have him at 4.63. That is not a source. Jerry Rice did not fall because he was a slug. He fell because he went to a small school and wasn't a rocket. I think the Rice ran a 4.7 thing came from some quote where they said he ran a 4.7 but he got faster as the game went on. I don't think anybody actually timed him at that. Jarvis Landry is the guy you should be quoting for slow 40s. He was solidly in the 4.7s (down to 4.61 at his pro day) and had a very solid rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 If I am picking at 6 from that list, I am taking Scherff. All along my hope for the Jets and the new regime going forward was to see them build from the lines out. Now we have a great D-line shore up the OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Then how about #12, #44 and a 2016 2nd round pick? Maybe their QB coach fell in love with him when he worked him out the last few weeks. Of course, knowing our luck Browns make the trade with Wash. That is exactly what would happen they know we would pick Mariota they wouldn't risk letting us get to the podium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'd be very disappointed if we took Scherff at 6, very disappointed. I would be dangling from a rope if we took the CB. Why? He'd start off at a guard spot and give us an opportunity to move on from Brick (who is paid like an elite LT but hasn't played like one for a while) next offseason, which would save us 9M in cap room, or to restructure him to a more palatable contract while keeping Scherff at guard for another year or two before transitioning to LT. Our OL does need some love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 The big key is "Is this guy a pro bowl LT in waiting?" I'm not convinced he is. Use the 6th overall pick on a prototypical LT? Sure. Use one on a guard a good who well maybe in a few years will be a LT is not something I want to chance. In the end I do not see this guy as some all world player and the highkly picked OG's the last few years have not stepped right in and been massively dominant. We need a true demon pass rusher more than an OG we need a true top notch WR more than an OG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 You are doing this to piss me off right? Other than Boldin, those times are bullsh*t and Boldin was huge. Fitzgerald didn't run and the reported time for Rice is one of those myths that get repeated so often they become "facts." I wrote a long, researched post about this, possibly in response to this particular article. Nothing against the author, he is quoting what is out there, but that does not make it factual. That is not a source, it does cite sources, and if it did they would be wrong. Fitzgerald did not run at the combine - there were numerous potential reasons, he may have been hurt or he may have been worried about his petition to the league wouldn't be accepted. He was only a Pitt a couple of years, but used some prep school to cover the other year out of high school and that was when Clarrett's suit was going strong. He ran a 4.48 at his pro day, weighing 225. There is some moronic site called nflcombineresults that routinely has the wrong numbers up and Wikipedia quotes it. They have him at 4.63. That is not a source. Jerry Rice did not fall because he was a slug. He fell because he went to a small school and wasn't a rocket. I think the Rice ran a 4.7 thing came from some quote where they said he ran a 4.7 but he got faster as the game went on. I don't think anybody actually timed him at that. Jarvis Landry is the guy you should be quoting for slow 40s. He was solidly in the 4.7s (down to 4.61 at his pro day) and had a very solid rookie season. Cooper's should be compared to Rice more than Curtis effen Conway. The work ethic, route running, and hands demonstrated by Amari are off the charts. Rice wasn't a so called rocket and turned out to be GOAT. He had all the same attributes that Amari has. As you have stated 40x's mean diddly poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Cooper's should be compared to Rice more than Curtis effen Conway. The work ethic, route running, and hands demonstrated by Amari are off the charts. Rice wasn't a so called rocket and turned out to be GOAT. He had all the same attributes that Amari has. As you have stated 40x's mean diddly poo You have the wrong guy. If anything, I have been the #1 defender of the 40 on this site. Doesn't mean that I think the faster player is always better, but I do believe that the faster player is always faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 The best thing to come out of the combine was Mike Mayock rapping and nothing else is close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Lmao.. no way! He rapped? Link please? That's classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I don't understand this mentality; if the best player at 6 is a wide out, which is very possible, why would that be a problem? Especially when many of the top receivers in this draft are ranked just has high or higher than last years (which was the best wr class in a decade.) Not saying it would be bad - it 'd be just so unusual a move for the Jets (in my fandom) that I wouldn't know what to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Lmao.. no way! He rapped? Link please? That's classic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an2LjdttKM8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Mike Mayfunk lol. Great Stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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