Jets’ Jamal Adams Earning High Marks

[Mogglez]

3 minutes ago, Raideraholic said:

I don't know where you thought I was taking a shot at Adams( my praise of him was sincere- played very well all game.     That clip I posted showed his intelligence. Ko destroys defense lineman every week ( has to lead the league in pancake blocks)  It wouldn't have been pretty if he tried to be a hero , and took on Ko one on one.     Like you alluded to that play might have went the distance if he tried to take on Ko.  Played it very smart.( limited to six yard gain). 

Oh don't get me wrong, I didn't think that about your comment all.  I just liked the clip you posted and wanted to elaborate in detail for others why we, and the guy who made the video, were actually praising him for being smart and not playing hero ball against KO.

It was a great clip to pair with my GIF so I added it on to my breakdown.

[Lupz27]

43 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

1.  Jamal Adams comes flying in from one side of the field and saves a TD with a tackle on the total opposite side of the the field

That's fine, and well, but our 2nd Rd Safety, and 3rd round CB shouldn't have had to be bailed out there by anyone, what a horrendous job on that play by both.

[Mogglez]

2 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

That's fine, and well, but our 2nd Rd Safety, and 3rd round CB shouldn't have had to be bailed out there by anyone, what a horrendous job on that play by both.

I'm not totally disagreeing, but one thing that can defend Maye is the fact that in play number 2 (my GIF) Crabtree gets away with a horrendous hold that, very clearly, puts Maye off balance as he frees himself and tries to make the play.  Burris has to secure that tackle.  There's no excuse for that.

[Charlie Brown]

1 hour ago, Mogglez said:

Adding on to this post to give praise to the Raiders OL and jump in on Adams.  I made a GIF from game tape that showed off a ton of things in 7 seconds:

1.  Jamal Adams comes flying in from one side of the field and saves a TD with a tackle on the total opposite side of the the field.  It's during this play that Jamal displays the great speed, instincts, and tackling that made him the "safest" pick in this year's draft and one of the "cleanest" defensive prospects in years.  Addressing your clip with more detail, it's pretty much the right way to address that situation.  Adams knows pretty quickly that his angle and point of attack are no match for KO and his initial burst.  So what does he do?  Retreats, "pulling" KO with him and allowing him to reposition himself in case the play goes further back into the secondary and he needs to be in ideal position to stop it from being a TD.  What retreating and repositioning also does is draw KO's attention to Adams, allowing Marcus Maye to come in and "save" the play from being anything more a 5-6 yard gain.  Obviously that type of yardage is not what you want to see gained on a run, but the two rookies did exactly what safeties are supposed to do and are expected to do when the DL and LB's don't get the job done.  These 2 plays (mine and yours) are prime examples of instinctual plays you want to see from guys drafted as high as Adams and Maye.  Obviously you can argue for days about the draft position, position they play, and the value attached to those two things, but at the end of the day, the selections were made, the players are here and will continue to be here no matter how angry people get about it.  I want to evaluate them and see how they're progressing, not dwell and go on about things that can't be changed.  Player evaluation, both college and pro, is the only thing I'm having fun with and enjoying during this sh*tshow of an NFL season as a Jets fan.

Putting the focus back to my GIF, we see a bunch of other things too so I'll get back to that specific play.

2.  If Jordan Jenkins doesn't hurt himself (at least that what appears to be the case here) trying to make the tackle, he's the star of this clip, not Adams.  Didn't have work too much to get in the backfield, but he kept his shoulders square to the runner and took a good angle on the form tackle.

3.  Muhammad Wilkerson is a f*cking DOG.  No fight.  Nothing.  Just gets b*tch-slapped at the point of attack and gives up on the idea of hustling his fat ass as the play get away from his side.  Every other player is showing fire, or at the very least, a sense of urgency.  That includes Kony Ealy, who comes running into frame towards the tail end of the run.  Ealy is someone who's been here for a couple of weeks, dirt cheap, and even further away from the play than Mo.  Absolutely humiliating.  I'd have a blown up clip of this "effort" in the DL room on a loop for all damn week if I were the coaches.

4.  This one ties into #3.  There's no sugar coating it, Leo got leveled on this play.  Now, he's been dealing with a wrist injury from the pre-season that I believe is killing his ability to push/explode and that's a big reason why he can't disengage.  However, it doesn't help that the only other interior D-Lineman is playing softer than a roll of Charmin toilet paper.  The Raiders have a fantastic offensive line.  One of the best in the game.  If they know that they can go 1-1 with Mo with little to no consequences, they can just throw a double team on Leo.  Every. Single. Time.  That's almost exactly what they did and that is not what you want if you're the Jets.  Especially if Leo is  already hurt and not 100%.  Leo's resume (so far) speaks for itself.  I think he's gonna be fine in the long run.  Against a worse O-Line in week 1 (BUF), he disrupted a good amount of plays and almost notched half a sack with Josh Martin (?).  That said, it's gonna be hard for him to rack up the sacks this year if Mo keeps playing like a log of sh*t.  Offenses will continue to do this until Wilkerson (or someone else) steps up.  

5.  The ILBs, for all their massive failures these past two weeks, did a decent job here.  Demario struggled a little more than Lee with his man (totally surprising because of their respective sizes, to be honest), but above all else he, along with Lee, occupied their blockers and held their own to force the RB to the outside where there was no one to help him.  Again, not a great game for those two, but they did their jobs on this play.

6.  Burris is still a work in progress as a whole, but one part I really love about his game is that he is a DB who is not afraid of contact.  Next time I'd rather him actually, you know, make the tackle instead of being the guy who gets shoved off but still slows up the runner enough for another player to come clean up.  That said, it's nice to see that he gives a damn and will put his body out there on a running play, unlike most modern day cornerbacks.

7.  Marcus Maye falling over isn't a good look.  However, Crabtree gets away with a pretty bad hold on this play and as Maye frees himself, being held the whole way clearly puts himself off balance as he tries to recover and make the play.  Again, it's a bad look, but when looked at deeper has an explanation.  We suck enough without the refs messing up and helping the other team out.  I know there's holding on just about every play, but this one is pretty blatant and shouldn't have been missed.

Thank you for this post!!

And yet we have folks even in this thread, despite the good news, trying to find way to marginalize Adams and his current excellent performances...

It is indeed some of the other players that we have to be worried about not a rookie safety who is playing up to his draft status!

 

 

 

[jetspenguin]

uhhhh.....no offense and I like the kid so far but.........since he was the highest drafted safety isnt he SUPPOSED TO BE the highest rated safety?

What is so impressive (or surprising)about him being what he was supposed to be in the first place?

[sciond]

Adams looks great and will be a god player based on what we see

maybe next year we can draft a PK number one....

[drsamuel84]

14 hours ago, Jack Straw said:

Jamal Adams is going to be a great player for a long time. But when you don't have ANY talent at QB, WR, RB, TE, LT or OLB or CB, drafting safeties with high first rounders is bad business.

I guess I'm saying I'd have rather invested in someone like Mahomes rather than Adams because the impact a QB can have on a game is 100x greater than that of a SS. Case in point, Adams has played well and we still gave up 45 points to the Raiders. 

I get what you're saying but the Jets roster was so barren  of talent it was important they got Day 1 impact players.  Drafting Mahomes with the chance he might be good only delays the rebuild.  As desperate as the team is for offensive players the worst thing Macc could've done is reached on a QB if you don't think he's going to be the guy.  Maybe he's learned something from the Hack debacle.

[Sperm Edwards]

21 hours ago, RESNewYork said:

Why is it bad? In today's NFL safety has become the play making position on D. 2 games in, he's playing well and fans complain? It's unreal. What are the expecations? Fast track to cAnton after 2 weeks? 

Yes, this! Safety is now THE playmaking position on defense!

And just think -- we have TWO of them.

That's why our defense is covered with extra helpings of awesome sauce. Dipping my bread in it as we speak. Mmm!

[NoBowles]

8 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Yes, this! Safety is now THE playmaking position on defense!

And just think -- we have TWO of them.

That's why our defense is covered with extra helpings of awesome sauce. Dipping my bread in it as we speak. Mmm!

 

Is that what all the cool kids are calling it these days, awesome sauce?

[Sperm Edwards]

2 minutes ago, NoBowles said:

 

Is that what all the cool kids are calling it these days, awesome sauce?

No. Not all of them are cool enough.

[NoBowles]

7 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

No. Not all of them are cool enough.

Ive seen Boyz n the hood like 25 times, so I know I am cool enough!

[RESNewYork]

19 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Yes, this! Safety is now THE playmaking position on defense!

And just think -- we have TWO of them.

That's why our defense is covered with extra helpings of awesome sauce. Dipping my bread in it as we speak. Mmm!

we maybe have 2 of them. its only been 2 games. yes safety is a playmaking position because of both run support and pass coverage responsibilities. 

not into having a sauce conversation with someone named sperm but glad you got extra

[RESNewYork]

21 hours ago, Jack Straw said:

Jamal Adams is going to be a great player for a long time. But when you don't have ANY talent at QB, WR, RB, TE, LT or OLB or CB, drafting safeties with high first rounders is bad business.

I guess I'm saying I'd have rather invested in someone like Mahomes rather than Adams because the impact a QB can have on a game is 100x greater than that of a SS. Case in point, Adams has played well and we still gave up 45 points to the Raiders. 

I agree to an extent but it would depend on what the GM and his team thought of Mahomes. I'm not saying this is fact or will happen. But if you project Adams to be a pro bowl, leader of your team and Mahomes as a potential starter, who are you taking? Again, not saying that's their trajectory but don't you take the player you feel most confident about, especially at 6?

[peebag]

To justify the pick, Adams has to be decent.

[BurnleyJet]

4 minutes ago, peebag said:

To justify the pick, Adams has to be decent.

For #6 he better be Very, very good.

[sciond]

45 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Yes, this! Safety is now THE playmaking position on defense!

And just think -- we have TWO of them.

That's why our defense is covered with extra helpings of awesome sauce. Dipping my bread in it as we speak. Mmm!

with a smattering of weaksauce all the way around it

[Jetster]

This fan base is full of crybabies. Adams is gonna be a good 1st round pick. End of story, we needed a win here after Coples,Milliner, Pryor. Scouts think 2018 is the best QB crop since 2004. Adams was the safest pick. When we cut all the veterans I reserved myself to the fact this was finally a true rebuild which the Jets have never done without high priced veteran bandaid signings. You can't do it in 1 year. 2018- QB, Oline, CB, RB, MLB (Lee gets put where he belongs, Mo Wilkerson? (CUT!). 

Its going to be fun when we get closer to rebuilding the offense, watching these 2 safeties grow up together and lead this defense making all of the calls in the secondary getting guys lined up & in position. (Both Adams & Maye bring intelligence to read offensive sets & the more experience they get the more successful the entire defense will be). 2018 we'll start seeing NY Jets growing & improving, 2019 is when we're back challenging for the division.