Vader Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Actually I have no idea. Just wanted to grab your attention. Serious question though. Where does JW go in this draft class had he not gotten injured? Thoughts? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Pre-injury top 5-10 Post-injury mid to late 1st 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Idk it’s impossible to tell. Is he better than Wilson? I don’t think so. Is he better than London? I don’t think so either., teams seem to overdraft pure speed guys all the time tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Had he been able to work out, and ran at the combine in the 4.2s I think he would have been in the conversation for the first WR off the board, if not having the conversation start and end with him. Many here feel he isnt worthy of the pick that high but in this draft with the lack of elite talent, and the NFL's obsession with WRs now his value would have skyrocketed with a good offseason. He would have been mocked in the top 10 certainly in most mocks. I think it says a lot that even with the injury he's still firmly a first rounder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 We'll probably wind up with Williams and Watson as our back to back 2nd round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Paradis said: We'll probably wind up with Williams and Watson as our back to back 2nd round picks. Can’t tell if positive or negative 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 10 hours ago, BurntDice said: Idk it’s impossible to tell. Is he better than Wilson? I don’t think so. Is he better than London? I don’t think so either., teams seem to overdraft pure speed guys all the time tho I admit that I don't watch a ton of college football but when I watched JW play this year he reminded me of Randy Moss more than any player I have seen play since Randy Moss was in college. The way JW could take a 5 yard pass and just accelerate is like nothing I've seen in the last 20+ years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 6 hours ago, kdels62 said: Can’t tell if positive or negative I thought it was just me. Must be a Canadian thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: I admit that I don't watch a ton of college football but when I watched JW play this year he reminded me of Randy Moss more than any player I have seen play since Randy Moss was in college. The way JW could take a 5 yard pass and just accelerate is like nothing I've seen in the last 20+ years. This is the strangest comp I’ve ever heard haha I don’t view randy like that at all. He was a freak of nature go deep chuck it and he’ll grab it. JW is a slot receiver who has trouble against press but has good speed. I just don’t really like him that much. As far as speed guys I’d take waddle last year over him in a heartbeat. Much more naturally gifted athletically imo. Has the lateral agility to go crazy all over the field. JW seems more like a straight line speed guy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, BurntDice said: This is the strangest comp I’ve ever heard haha I don’t view randy like that at all. He was a freak of nature go deep chuck it and he’ll grab it. JW is a slot receiver who has trouble against press but has good speed. I just don’t really like him that much. As far as speed guys I’d take waddle last year over him in a heartbeat. Much more naturally gifted athletically imo. Has the lateral agility to go crazy all over the field. JW seems more like a straight line speed guy Lol, his qb was Chadwick Pennington. Watch his TD vs army when he catches a 5 yd pass, hurdles a dude, and breaks away for a 90-something yd td. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: Lol, his qb was Chadwick Pennington. Watch his TD vs army when he catches a 5 yd pass, hurdles a dude, and breaks away for a 90-something yd td. I’ve never seen that play before. That was sick! He was so damn good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 He’s the guy I wanted before he was hurt. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 6:57 PM, Adoni Beast said: Pre-injury top 5-10 Post-injury mid to late 1st ACL injuries in 2022 should not lead to a drop off that big. He'll be a steal for someone. I'd take him at 10. Worth it than getting a inferior player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 On 3/28/2022 at 1:06 PM, Paradis said: We'll probably wind up with Williams and Watson as our back to back 2nd round picks. you're high if you think Jameson Williams will be still on board in 2nd round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 4:57 PM, Adoni Beast said: Pre-injury top 5-10 Post-injury mid to late 1st What does a few spots matter. If you think he will be same player post injury where you pick him is literally irrelevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 2 hours ago, johnnysd said: What does a few spots matter. If you think he will be same player post injury where you pick him is literally irrelevant Id draft him at 4. I just think some teams get scared off by this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Morrissey said: ACL injuries in 2022 should not lead to a drop off that big. He'll be a steal for someone. I'd take him at 10. Worth it than getting a inferior player. The thing is that is he a better prospect than Wilson pre injury? I don’t think so. London is hurt right now also and I’d take him over Williams. I’ve been digging into pierce more and he looks like he can be a stud. Good route runner and killed it at the combine. I’ve been a huge Wandale Robinson Stan and am starting to back off on it a bit with his tiny arms and not great combine performance. I still really like him tho. A guy with a possible higher ceiling in the gadget role is Calvin Austin. Really starting to dig him. This class is just too good depth wise to take an injury risk guy with only 1 year of production like Williams who doesn’t have a good record of beating press. I’d rather just take Wilson at 10 (recently heard a steph diggs comp which seems to fit very well) or see if London/Burks fall to the second or maybe pierce/Austin/Robinson in the 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, BurntDice said: The thing is that is he a better prospect than Wilson pre injury? I don’t think so. London is hurt right now also and I’d take him over Williams. I’ve been digging into pierce more and he looks like he can be a stud. Good route runner and killed it at the combine. I’ve been a huge Wandale Robinson Stan and am starting to back off on it a bit with his tiny arms and not great combine performance. I still really like him tho. A guy with a possible higher ceiling in the gadget role is Calvin Austin. Really starting to dig him. This class is just too good depth wise to take an injury risk guy with only 1 year of production like Williams who doesn’t have a good record of beating press. I’d rather just take Wilson at 10 (recently heard a steph diggs comp which seems to fit very well) or see if London/Burks fall to the second or maybe pierce/Austin/Robinson in the 3rd Well.. I just strongly disagree with that. What does Wilson do that's elite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Morrissey said: Well.. I just strongly disagree with that. What does Wilson do that's elite? Fantastic at positioning his body to make a catch and lateral agility. Great hands. Makes cuts extremely well which helps get open. Amazing first step. Great at getting separation. Has potential to be a fantastic route runner and fights for yards. 70 receptions 61 were either 1st downs or tds. He beat out Williams for reps at Ohio state too which is why Williams transferred he was the 4th wr there. He’s an outside receiver while Williams is a slot. That stefon diggs comp that I mentioned earlier seems on point. His 40 time 20 yard split and 10 yard split were all great. So he’s fast too in acceleration and long speed. When Williams tries to play on the outside he struggles mightily getting past the line. Most of his production came when there wasn’t someone in his face at the line. That’s not really going to happen often in the nfl. Why do you “strongly” disagree? Jameson Williams is fast…what else? I don’t really even want wr at 10 that bad. Would rather go sauce at 4 and edge at 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted April 2, 2022 Author Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 hours ago, BurntDice said: Fantastic at positioning his body to make a catch and lateral agility. Great hands. Makes cuts extremely well which helps get open. Amazing first step. Great at getting separation. Has potential to be a fantastic route runner and fights for yards. 70 receptions 61 were either 1st downs or tds. He beat out Williams for reps at Ohio state too which is why Williams transferred he was the 4th wr there. He’s an outside receiver while Williams is a slot. That stefon diggs comp that I mentioned earlier seems on point. His 40 time 20 yard split and 10 yard split were all great. So he’s fast too in acceleration and long speed. When Williams tries to play on the outside he struggles mightily getting past the line. Most of his production came when there wasn’t someone in his face at the line. That’s not really going to happen often in the nfl. Why do you “strongly” disagree? Jameson Williams is fast…what else? I don’t really even want wr at 10 that bad. Would rather go sauce at 4 and edge at 10 Acceleration is not the same as top end speed…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntDice Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Vader said: Acceleration is not the same as top end speed…. Where did I say it was? That’s why I pointed out the 20 and 10 yard split for acceleration and the 40 for top end speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted April 2, 2022 Author Share Posted April 2, 2022 40 minutes ago, BurntDice said: Where did I say it was? That’s why I pointed out the 20 and 10 yard split for acceleration and the 40 for top end speed Nah i said it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBGreen Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 3:50 PM, Vader said: Actually I have no idea. Just wanted to grab your attention. Serious question though. Where does JW go in this draft class had he not gotten injured? Thoughts? You got my attention...because you're right. If JW had remained healthy, he would've been at the top of my board. Even with the ACL, i'd still have no issue taking him at #10. The Jets need someone to take the top off a defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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