Darnold now leaving on a cart due to injury

[Fantasy Island]

1 hour ago, Dunnie said:

Mims and White for a 3rd. DO IT NOW.

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Mims, Whit, and Becton for Robbie.  Do it now.

[Lurker89]

14 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said:

Mims, Whit, and Becton for Robbie.  Do it now.

 

I'd pay them to keep Robbie far far away from us. 

I'll  Take literally any OL or LB depth though.

[pointman]

Throw him future All Pro Ashytn. 

 

[pointman]

4 hours ago, neckdemon said:

i play fantasy football but this shows the toxic nature of the game to me. many root for injuries to players so other teams in their league get weaker or only care about injuries because of how it affects their fantasy team. we have a post about a possible injury to a saints tackle, in a thread about a potentially serious injury to a former high profile jets player,  on a jets site main forum because the poster is concerned about his drafting of alvin kamara???? lol are we for real here?  sam darnold was a jet so talking about him makes sense here. nobody cares that you are concerned about trevor penning because of your "significant exposure" to alvin kamra in fantasy.....seriously. maybe if you cared because you were genuinely concerned about players' injuries i'd say whatever. but why are you posting this in a thread about sam darnold and stating this is what you care more about? take this crap somewhere else. no matter what you think of his skills, darnold was a model citizen here and a good kid......it really sucks to hear he had to be carted off the field, and you wanna posts about your f*cking fantasy team......f*cking nonsense

[pointman]

4 hours ago, Warfish said:

JMO, but if you cannot separate reasonable disappointment that a guy didn't work out, with expressing glee or gloating when he suffers an injury later on....you may be taking all this too seriously.

I thought you were a moderator here. Also, people kind of suck. More so lately.

[Warfish]

4 minutes ago, pointman said:

I thought you were a moderator here.

Nope.  I was at JI for a while, but never here.

[pointman]

Just now, Warfish said:

Nope.  I was at JI for a while, but never here.

Well, that just doesn't seem right. I'll vote for you and Lith at the next moderator voting primaries. 

[Larz]

He’s such a good dude. Just not a starting QB in the NFL.  Sucks to see this 

[jgb]

15 minutes ago, Larz said:

He’s such a good dude. Just not a starting QB in the NFL.  Sucks to see this 

I don’t get the good dude thing. I mean there’s no evidence he’s a bad dude, but is he known for some great charitable works or something? Asking for real.

[neckdemon]

4 hours ago, Lurker89 said:

Sorry about your boyfriend Sam... he is a nice guy. I'm more concerned that over 5 years in he has only gotten worse at processing the pro game than I am about his boo boo. Probably best to not have him with a clipboard on the sideline anyway, the only insight hes gonna have on the gameplan is where he sees the ghosts..... generally on the edge and in the secondary, right Sam?

Sounds like someone took a dump in your shredded wheat this morning. Before we get there ... calm down I'm just ****ing with you., your comment was the yummiest of treats to my trolly sensibilities. I had high hopes for Sam, he is a massive disappointment on the football field, but im sure will do great stuff off of it in life.

Fantasy football has kept some of us heavily engaged in the NFL while the Jets Org has pissed in our mouth and screamed "Swalllow" since our last playoff run 12+ years ago. It's also making the league a ton of money. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

i don't even think darnold is a good qb and was glad we moved on from him. but nobody gives a sh*t about this guys fantasy team and his investment in alvin kamara. that was my point......

[jgb]

5 minutes ago, neckdemon said:

i don't even think darnold is a good qb and was glad we moved on from him. but nobody gives a sh*t about this guys fantasy team and his investment in alvin kamara. that was my point......

Ok I admit it Berrios is on my fantasy team and that’s the real driving reason behind my man lust for dink and dunk king Mike White.

[Vudu]

Baker looked good last night

[jgb]

4 hours ago, Warfish said:

Nope.  I was at JI for a while, but never here.

So that’s why that place went to hell.

[jetstream23]

Good guy, bad quarterback.  It's a shame how quickly his NFL career seems to have crumbled.  He's set for life financially and I'm sure he'll find a new path if he doesn't come back from this as an NFL backup somewhere.

[Jetsfan80]

8 hours ago, DoubleDown said:

I don't think the agent had anything to do with it. Picking up the fifth year option was always the plan from the moment the Panthers decided to trade a 2nd round pick for him. You don't trade that much draft capital for a 1 year rental.

So they made a bad decision (trading significant draft capital for Sam Darnold) and doubled down on that stupidity by handing him $19M just to continue down the same wrong path.  

Idiots.

[Jetsfan80]

6 hours ago, jgb said:

I don’t get the good dude thing. I mean there’s no evidence he’s a bad dude, but is he known for some great charitable works or something? Asking for real.

I think his ability to always give the "right answer" at a press conference had something to do with that.  Then, people just started parroting each other.

I just never understand why being a "nice guy" absolves a guy from criticism for sucking at football.  Who wants "nice guys" playing a violent sport?  

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, jetstream23 said:

Good guy, bad quarterback. 

WHY DO PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THIS

[jgb]

 

 

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

So they made a bad decision (trading significant draft capital for Sam Darnold) and doubled down on that stupidity by handing him $19M just to continue down the same wrong path.  

Idiots.

'Member when people said CAR would save a lot of money by locking Darnold up cheap for only $18.9M in 2023 after he proves that he was held back by lack o'dem weaponz and teh worst coach evah?

[Integrity28]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

WHY DO PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THIS

Why shouldn’t we? I root for good people in all aspects of life. Why not sport? There’s literally no harm in being a fan of the character or intent if someone, regardless of their success.

I‘ve spent my life rooting for losing franchises. This is a normal way for me to view players, honestly. “Tries hard, good to the fans, great with charity work, mediocre player. Oh well. Least he’s not a jerk.”

[jgb]

3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Why shouldn’t we? I root for good people in all aspects of life. Why not sport? There’s literally no harm in being a fan of the character or intent if someone, regardless of their success.

I‘ve spent my life rooting for losing franchises. This is a normal way for me to view players, honestly. “Tries hard, good to the fans, great with charity work, mediocre player. Oh well. Least he’s not a jerk.”

If the Mongol horde could competently execute the west coast offense, I could grow to root for them.

[Integrity28]

Just now, jgb said:

If the Mongol horde could competently execute the west coast offense, I could grow to root for them.

I’m not saying I only root for ‘good guys’, just saying it’s a nice kicker to acknowledge it. 

[jgb]

8 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

I’m not saying I only root for ‘good guys’, just saying it’s a nice kicker to acknowledge it. 

All things being equal, yes. But let's not kid ourselves -- if a Jets team comprised of miscreants wins bigly, we will lap up the "swashbuckling rogue" narrative as a sort of Long Island tough guy panache. 

[DoubleDown]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

So they made a bad decision (trading significant draft capital for Sam Darnold) and doubled down on that stupidity by handing him $19M just to continue down the same wrong path.  

Idiots.

Yes, but there was never any doubt they were going to pick it up. The deadline is typically in early May right after the draft. So the move had to be executed before a single practice was held or game was played with Darnold on the team.

[Jetsfan80]

4 minutes ago, jgb said:

All things being equal, yes. But let's not kid ourselves -- if a Jets team comprised of miscreants wins bigly, we will lap up the "swashbuckling rogue" narrative as a sort of Long Island tough guy panache. 

‘86 Mets are the best example of this.  They were mostly scum.  But they won.  

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

Yes, but there was never any doubt they were going to pick it up. The deadline is typically in early May right after the draft. So the move had to be executed before a single practice was held or game was played with Darnold on the team.

Door # 2:  Decline the option and give him a shiny new contract after he proves he’s worth it.  

A franchise QB is worth wayyyyy more than $19M a year, so who would really care if they end up losing some money at the negotiating table in the end, as long as they have their longterm answer at QB?

It was a hedge on their own dumb decision making, and a poor one.  

[jgb]

5 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

Yes, but there was never any doubt they were going to pick it up. The deadline is typically in early May right after the draft. So the move had to be executed before a single practice was held or game was played with Darnold on the team.

Here's a novel thought -- they could have not picked it up and used the franchise tag (~$25M) to bring him to heel if he had a good year and suddenly tried to play hardball on extension talks.

So basically, they bet $19M to maybe save $6M without getting odds.

Dumbest unforced error in football history that I am aware of.

 

[jgb]

5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

‘86 Mets are the best example of this.  They were mostly scum.  But they won.  

[DoubleDown]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Door # 2:  Decline the option and give him a shiny new contract after he proves he’s worth it.  

A franchise QB is worth wayyyyy more than $19M a year, so who would really care if they end up losing some money at the negotiating table in the end, as long as they have their longterm answer at QB?

It was a hedge on their own dumb decision making, and a poor one.  

That was never a realistic option in my opinion. The team can't trade a second round pick for a 1 year rental who can easily walk in free agency after a potentially good season. The optics would have been terrible.

The trade was made for the compensation agreed upon under the pretense that he was being brought in for 2 years at $23m.

[DoubleDown]

10 minutes ago, jgb said:

Here's a novel thought -- they could have not picked it up and used the franchise tag (~$25M) to bring him to heel if he had a good year and suddenly tried to play hardball on extension talks.

So basically, they bet $19M to maybe save $6M without getting odds.

Dumbest unforced error in football history that I am aware of.

 

Fair enough about the franchise tag but I believe it is about $30m this year after all the recent big money deals.

$11m isn't nothing, especially from the perspective of a team that was confident they were getting their guy.

[jgb]

8 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

Fair enough about the franchise tag but I believe it is about $30m this year after all the recent big money deals.

$11m isn't nothing, especially from the perspective of a team that was confident they were getting their guy.

Here's the thing -- it's all fake anyway. If he performed well enough to be franchise tagged, they were going to extend him anyway -- the franchise tag would have merely been deployed as leverage if he played hardball. Likewise, if he had played well in '21, he'd already be extended now.

Literally the only way he was going to get paid under the 5th year option is if he didn't earn it. The most idiotic move in NFL history. Zero upside. All downside.

[Joe W. Namath]

9 hours ago, jgb said:

I don’t get the good dude thing. I mean there’s no evidence he’s a bad dude, but is he known for some great charitable works or something? Asking for real.

Its bizarre.  Chad Pennington was a good dude.  Mark Sanchez was a good dude.  Yet jet fans would never describe them that way.  Any Sam Darnold thread, the over/under on "nice kid" posts is at about 20.

 

[jetstream23]

3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

WHY DO PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THIS

It's not necessarily that I care, but it's not an unfair thing to point out in a world of DeShaun Watsons and Matt Ariazas, is it?

In other words, those two guys could burn in hell and I'd probably go... meh!  The NFL is full of turkeys (to put it mildly) and then some outright bad dudes.

Is it not okay to point out when someone has at least some redeeming qualities?

I've had to terminate employees for some pretty bad reasons. If their next prospective employer calls me I'm saying, "stay away, don't even pay him $5/hr to take out the garbage."

There are other folks where I'll say, "If you put him in front of spreadsheets and give him solid direction, he'll be okay.  He's worth it in the right role.  But don't ask him to sell, don't put him in front of clients, and don't let him answer phones."

 

 

@jgb

[jetstream23]

1 hour ago, Integrity28 said:

I’m not saying I only root for ‘good guys’, just saying it’s a nice kicker to acknowledge it. 

Look, we've got a lot of guys on this board who would want to win a SB with Tyreek Hill, Matt Ariaza, OJ Simpson, Matt Ariaza and Ray Lewis types.  I get it.  Winning is the goal.  It's just not me.  I don't think there's anything wrong with wishing well for a guy in his future endeavors when the NFL is obviously not his calling. 

[jetstream23]

1 hour ago, jgb said:

All things being equal, yes. But let's not kid ourselves -- if a Jets team comprised of miscreants wins bigly, we will lap up the "swashbuckling rogue" narrative as a sort of Long Island tough guy panache. 

1. Not all of us.

2. You'd better hope this current method of roster building works out over the next several years because it's pretty clear the "miscreant" or hired gun approach will not be used in the near future.  This team is going to sh*tcan it's lazy 370 lb franchise LT no matter how talented he could be if he ever stops eating cheeseburgers.

[Joe W. Namath]

26 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

It's not necessarily that I care, but it's not an unfair thing to point out in a world of DeShaun Watsons and Matt Ariazas, is it?

In other words, those two guys could burn in hell and I'd probably go... meh!  The NFL is full of turkeys (to put it mildly) and then some outright bad dudes.

Is it not okay to point out when someone has at least some redeeming qualities?

I've had to terminate employees for some pretty bad reasons. If their next prospective employer calls me I'm saying, "stay away, don't even pay him $5/hr to take out the garbage."

There are other folks where I'll say, "If you put him in front of spreadsheets and give him solid direction, he'll be okay.  He's worth it in the right role.  But don't ask him to sell, don't put him in front of clients, and don't let him answer phones."

 

 

@jgb

Id say 95% of the current jets team is good dudes.  So moving forward, anytime a thread is opened on one of these players, there will be 20 plus posts describing them as good dudes?

The question is, there are tons of jet players that have been good dudes.  Why do Jet fans have to hammer home that aspect of darnold in an almost obsessive manner?

He is no better dude then 100s of other ex jets.