Aussie Jet Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Only trouble for the Lions is Goff is their quarterback. Just isn't quite the dude capable of winning a super bowl. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Mccarthy is vastly underrated. He has produced wherever he has gone, his offensive stats as head coach for dallas have been outstanding. How many playoff games has this outstanding HC won with a stacked Dallas roster? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 The days of RT being just a filler spot and it being all about LT are over the way the game is played these days. You need good tackles period. (Jets have none) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, Green Ghost said: How many playoff games has this outstanding HC won with a stacked Dallas roster? There are persistent rumours that McCarthy might get the sack if he doesn't win at least one playoff game this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Nah, Joe. That's on Goff for missing his pass. He has time to plant his feet and get an accurate pass off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: You’re younger and your memory is probably sharper than mine with this, (and I didn’t really like either of them), so you’re probably right. I think McCarthy has always been overrated imo because of Rodgers and now with the talent Jon’s gave him on the Cowboys. He’s done very little with all that. The Rhule baloon burst once the religious thing probably not playing well in NY became a concern here. Rhule bounced because Maccagnan was going to stick him with Gregg Williams. McCarthy wanted $8 mil per with roster control so Maccagnan—via Mehta—destroyed his candidacy. That said, McCarthy isn’t good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Green Ghost said: How many playoff games has this outstanding HC won with a stacked Dallas roster? They are no more stacked than any other of the good teams. It is tough to score points in this league. Tougher to win some games. Even tougher to make the playoffs. Even tougher to win it all. They win games and produce a lot of offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 28 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Even when I agree with you, I think to myself “when he really wants to make a point, Matt is every divorced man’s ex-wife” Happily married 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 .625 winning % with Dallas .619 career winning % 17 years, 12 playoffs 3 losing seasons out of 17 Top 5 offenses for dallas about the last 3 years at Dallas But he's a bad coach. Jet Fans are so used to the total dreck we put out there year after year they do not recognize a good coach that does what he is supposed to. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: They are no more stacked than any other of the good teams. It is tough to score points in this league. Tougher to win some games. Even tougher to make the playoffs. Even tougher to win it all. They win games and produce a lot of offense. Offense just doesn’t jive with who the Jets are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: .625 winning % with Dallas .619 career winning % 17 years, 12 playoffs 3 losing seasons out of 17 Top 5 offenses for dallas about the last 3 years at Dallas But he's a bad coach. Jet Fans are so used to the total dreck we put out there year after year they do not recognize a good coach that does what he is supposed to. He’s not a bad coach. But he’s not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: They are no more stacked than any other of the good teams. Also what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: .625 winning % with Dallas .619 career winning % 17 years, 12 playoffs 3 losing seasons out of 17 Top 5 offenses for dallas about the last 3 years at Dallas But he's a bad coach. Jet Fans are so used to the total dreck we put out there year after year they do not recognize a good coach that does what he is supposed to. So you’d rather have McCarthy over a fresh new rookie HC that was a DC and plays afraid like a giant pussy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: They are no more stacked than any other of the good teams. It is tough to score points in this league. Tougher to win some games. Even tougher to make the playoffs. Even tougher to win it all. They win games and produce a lot of offense. A lot of words, none of which answered my question. How many playoff games has your outstanding and underrated HC won in Dallas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, T0mShane said: Also what 'Stacked' to me is a term that indicates a team essentially has top end talent all through the roster. Are all the top teams stacked? Which teams are stacked and which are not? McCarthy works well with Jones, he hired Gus Bradley, Dak is not a total top tier QB. They had to rebuild the oline. He knows how to use his best players. It's silly how little respect that coach gets and even worse how little respect jerry jones gets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, Beerfish said: .625 winning % with Dallas .619 career winning % 17 years, 12 playoffs 3 losing seasons out of 17 Top 5 offenses for dallas about the last 3 years at Dallas But he's a bad coach. Jet Fans are so used to the total dreck we put out there year after year they do not recognize a good coach that does what he is supposed to. Again, a lot of words, but still no answer. Nobody said he’s bad, but he’s pretty meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 For all the OL enthusiasts, this game is a good reminder that the difference between elite OLs and trash OLs is not all that huge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Classy tribute to Jimmy Johnson. Good job, Jerry Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ron Rico said: Classy tribute to Jimmy Johnson. Good job, Jerry Jones. Yes, you could tell it meant so much to the old HC. He deserved to be in there with the Triplets. Big assist to Aikman, who apparently was the peacemaker between Jones and Jimmy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Watching this game wondering of Nate Hackett is calling the Detroit offensive plays tonight. So far, the Lions offense looks just like we do every week. 1H 3 points despite several opportunities. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Aussie Jet said: Jets could have had Dan Campbell or Mike McCarthy as their head coach. Nah, let's go sign up the stair climber instead. I recall Saleh being a popular hire at the time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: I recall Saleh being a popular hire at the time. You recall correctly. He was. I saw through JD from the start, but I’ll admit I wasn’t down on Saleh until the bad finish in ‘22. He had me fooled. Most everyone here were still all in on him and JD until the Jets lost out last season. Even then they both had a lot of support after the Rodgers trade. Once Rodgers went down and Zach had to play again everything changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, Beerfish said: 'Stacked' to me is a term that indicates a team essentially has top end talent all through the roster. Are all the top teams stacked? Which teams are stacked and which are not? McCarthy works well with Jones, he hired Gus Bradley, Dak is not a total top tier QB. They had to rebuild the oline. He knows how to use his best players. It's silly how little respect that coach gets and even worse how little respect jerry jones gets. Do you mean Dan Quinn? McCarthy inherited a Hall of Fame left side of the OL. He’s posted some of the most bewildering and unconscionable playoffs collapses in the history of the sport. He stinks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 The Lions, Goff, and Campbell are a gritty bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Green Ghost said: *Whispers quietly…* as did his QB back when they were together in Green Bay. Rodgers did his job far better than McCarthy did his in those collapses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Do you mean Dan Quinn? McCarthy inherited a Hall of Fame left side of the OL. He’s posted some of the most bewildering and unconscionable playoffs collapses in the history of the sport. He stinks! I want to give this 3 reactions… a laugh, an upvote, and a POTW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Rodgers did his job far better than McCarthy did his in those collapses. Credit where it’s due, Aaron won a Super Bowl, but just imagine what his reputation would be if he hadn’t gotten that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Who do you think is better. Ceedee Lamb or Garrett W? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 The Cowboys kicker is the guy who finally unseated Justin Tucker as the best in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: Who do you think is better. Ceedee Lamb or Garrett W? Lamb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Credit where it’s due, Aaron won a Super Bowl, but imagine what his reputation would be if he hadn’t gotten that one? Dan Marino, I guess? But labeling Rodgers as some playoff choker whether he got that ring or not just wouldn’t be a fair assessment. Dude has a career 45/13 TD:INT ratio and 100.1 QB rating over his 22 playoff games. 5 times in his 10 playoff losses he threw for over 300 yards and/or 3 TDs and/or his O produced 30+ points. Can’t exactly pin those on him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Goff stinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: Happily married You’re the ex-wife 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Dan Marino, I guess? But labeling Rodgers as some playoff choker whether he got that ring or not just wouldn’t be a fair assessment. Dude has a career 45/13 TD:INT ratio and 100.1 QB rating over his 22 playoff games. 4 times in his 10 playoff losses he threw for over 300 yards and/or 3 TDs. Can’t exactly pin those on him. Marino was an excellent answer 80. I can’t argue it other than to say I watched both of them for their entire careers and I always thought Rodgers was a very, very good QB. I thought Marino was the best I ever saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 @Trotter I don’t know about you, but I’m down a half point right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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