Jets go deep for Ramsey

[TaborJet]

Jets go deep for Ramsey

BY RICH CIMINI

DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Adding some stability to their long-term quarterback situation, the Jets quietly extended the contract of newcomer Patrick Ramsey, who will compete with Chad Pennington for the starting job in training camp.

Ramsey, acquired in a March trade with the Redskins, was due to become an unrestricted free agent after the upcoming season, but he received a one-year, $2.1 million extension through 2007.

That includes a $1.4 million roster bonus, payable in March - the same time Pennington is due a $2 million roster bonus. It's unlikely that both quarterbacks will be back in 2007, especially if rookie Kellen Clemens shows promise, setting the stage for a Pennington-or-Ramsey decision next offseason.

In exchange for postponing his free-agent year, Ramsey got a small guarantee from the Jets, receiving $250,000 of his nonguaranteed base salary for this season ($1.7 million) in the form of a roster bonus that was paid June 30.

It's possible that Ramsey, who arrived from the Redskins with only one year left on his first NFL contract, was concerned about making the team after a somewhat disappointing performance in last month's minicamp.

The Jets have one of the most unstable quarterback situations in the league, with Pennington trying to rebound from his second shoulder surgery and Ramsey attempting to restart his career after a disappointing run in Washington. Backup Brooks Bollinger, hardly a lock to make the team, will be an unrestricted free agent after the season.

Meanwhile, the Jets have begun preliminary talks with their top pick, left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson, the fourth player taken in the draft.

[Fred Jetstone]

Fcuk

[PatsFanTX]

That includes a $1.4 million roster bonus, payable in March - the same time Pennington is due a $2 million roster bonus. It's unlikely that both quarterbacks will be back in 2007, especially if rookie Kellen Clemens shows promise, setting the stage for a Pennington-or-Ramsey decision next offseason.

Talk about the proverbial writing on the wall.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: PennyBoy will be placed on the IR for this entire season and then outright released next March before his roster bonus is due.

PennyBoy has taken his last snap as a member of the NYJ.

[AFJF]

Talk about the proverbial writing on the wall.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: PennyBoy will be placed on the IR for this entire season and then outright released next March before his roster bonus is due.

PennyBoy has taken his last snap as a member of the NYJ.

Not to say your scenario is impossible Tx, but is 3.4 mil in bonuses for two players really all that back breaking? If they both fill their roles well this season, I don't see why the Jets couldn't give both those bonuses.

[Sperm Edwards]

The other writing on the wall is that he's still not wowwed anyone. That's still #2 money. Not #3 money but certainly not #1 dollars. Particularly when the salary cap is already $102M this year & may go up to $110M next year. $2M is dick.

Great insurance move by Tannenbaum. This was a FREE CONTRACT for us to offer. It cost us ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and may have saved us a bundle if Pennington is truly finished and/or Clemens is horrible & we have to find someone else to be a #2 QB (and 1 less year in the system/with these receivers). Further, if he's good enough to keep around, he's DIRT CHEAP. If not, we cut him before his roster bonus without penalty (we didn't give him any $ yet in the form of a SB that would count against the '07 cap).

[NIGHT STALKER]

Talk about the proverbial writing on the wall.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: PennyBoy will be placed on the IR for this entire season and then outright released next March before his roster bonus is due.

PennyBoy has taken his last snap as a member of the NYJ.

I don't think so TX. This to me, is an indication that Bollywood will become expendable. He's not eligible for the PS and the Jets will carry 3 QB's on the active roster. He seems to be the odd man out especially if Chad is progressing as well as writers have all indicated.

Now, if there is some kind of inside information concerning the health of Chad's shoulder in a negative way, then you could be right.

[BwanaZulia]

Talk about the proverbial writing on the wall.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: PennyBoy will be placed on the IR for this entire season and then outright released next March before his roster bonus is due.

PennyBoy has taken his last snap as a member of the NYJ.

You also said "No way the Jets get a first round pick for Abe"...

BZ

[4HCrew]

Ok the so the Jets are trying to make him feel a little wanted and give him some stability. It is worth a shot maybe he comes out of his shell.

[faba]

The job is there waiting for someone to show they can take it so Ramsey has his shot to try to turn around his career at still a young age

[PatsFanTX]

I don't think so TX. This to me, is an indication that Bollywood will become expendable. He's not eligible for the PS and the Jets will carry 3 QB's on the active roster. He seems to be the odd man out especially if Chad is progressing as well as writers have all indicated.

Now, if there is some kind of inside information concerning the health of Chad's shoulder in a negative way, then you could be right.

FL,

I agree with you that Bollinger will be expendable. There is no way the Jets will tie up a roster spot by carrying 4 QB's.

As for "insdide information" readring PennyBoy's shoulder: That's the first thing that went through my mind when I read the article. However, as tight-lipped as the Jets are now, the fans and media will never know it.

[Sperm Edwards]

I don't think so TX. This to me, is an indication that Bollywood will become expendable. He's not eligible for the PS and the Jets will carry 3 QB's on the active roster. He seems to be the odd man out especially if Chad is progressing as well as writers have all indicated.

I think it's more this than anything else. We traded a paltry 6th-rounder for Ramsey. We haven't paid him a dime yet (his SB was paid by Washington his rookie year) & is, right now, cuttable without penalty. But after minicamp, with Clemens (no one cuts a 2nd-round rookie) plus Pennington + Ramsey + Bollinger, I think they just wanted to see Ramsey up close, analyzing film, etc rather than just what they saw in games themselves. They just wanted to be SURE that they didn't get someone, about whom they'd later say - "Geez - Brooks was way better than this clown.")

Sorry Fred - but that looks like the way it is.

Now, if there is some kind of inside information concerning the health of Chad's shoulder in a negative way, then you could be right.

What does this extension likely mean regarding Chad? I think Pennington is proabably doing WELL with his rehab and they do NOT think he's done. Otherwise Ramsey's agent NEVER would've let him sign this extension. If Pennington's totally done then Ramsey would know it by now & so would his agent. This would make Ramsey the likely starter in week 1 & then he could go into free agency in 2007 as a starting QB.

But since that begs the question - then why, with a rookie we're high on, and a healthy Chad, would we make this contract offer? See my other post. It was FREE. Ramsey feels more attached to the Jets, and just because Chad may start the season, who's to say that his shoulder (or his injury du jour) will even last us through September? Then what do we do in '07?

Awesome move by Tannenbaum.

So I think this means:

2006 QB pecking order:

#1 Chad

#2/#3 - Ramsey/Clemens

2007:

#1 Chad - if he's still healthy & his deep ball isn't a liability & we're already competitive

#2/#3 - Clemens/Ramsey

or, if Chad's done:

#1/#2 - Clemens/Ramsey

#3 - late-round rookie or dirt-cheap FA

[124]

Very good. Very VERY good and smart move.

Why?

Here's why:

If the Jets plan to release Pennington after the 06 season in favor of Clemens for 07 and long after, they will still have Patrick Ramsey for at least 2007 to help back-up Clemens and have veteran presence to help him and also provide stability at the QB position. What if Clemens was to get hurt and we didn't have either Chad or Patrick? We could be looking at giving Bollinger or some scrub that we may pick in the 5th round to be the #3 the job...that wouldn't be a good thing now would it?

Now, if Pennington shows he can still play and play well and lead this team to some wins, Ramsey could be cut and it would be a Pennington-Clemens show down, but thats an unlikely scenario.

[PatsFanTX]

Ramsey feels more attached to the Jets, and just because Chad may start the season, who's to say that his shoulder (or his injury du jour) will even last us through September? Then what do we do in '07?

If he is still not ready, another option would be to put PennyBoy on the PUP list for the first eight games and let him come back for the 2nd half of the season.

[124]

I think it's more this than anything else. We traded a paltry 6th-rounder for Ramsey. We haven't paid him a dime yet (his SB was paid by Washington his rookie year) & is, right now, cuttable without penalty. But after minicamp, with Clemens (no one cuts a 2nd-round rookie) plus Pennington + Ramsey + Bollinger, I think they just wanted to see Ramsey up close, analyzing film, etc rather than just what they saw in games themselves. They just wanted to be SURE that they didn't get someone, about whom they'd later say - "Geez - Brooks was way better than this clown.")

Sorry Fred - but that looks like the way it is.

What does this extension likely mean regarding Chad? I think Pennington is proabably doing WELL with his rehab and they do NOT think he's done. Otherwise Ramsey's agent NEVER would've let him sign this extension. If Pennington's totally done then Ramsey would know it by now & so would his agent. This would make Ramsey the likely starter in week 1 & then he could go into free agency in 2007 as a starting QB.

But since that begs the question - then why, with a rookie we're high on, and a healthy Chad, would we make this contract offer? See my other post. It was FREE. Ramsey feels more attached to the Jets, and just because Chad may start the season, who's to say that his shoulder (or his injury du jour) will even last us through September? Then what do we do in '07?

Awesome move by Tannenbaum.

So I think this means:

2006 QB pecking order:

#1 Chad

#2/#3 - Ramsey/Clemens

2007:

#1 Chad - if he's still healthy & his deep ball isn't a liability & we're already competitive

#2/#3 - Clemens/Ramsey

or, if Chad's done:

#1/#2 - Clemens/Ramsey

#3 - late-round rookie or dirt-cheap FA

Sperm, you're right on the money once again, quality post all around. I'm also in 110% agreement with your depth charts.

[BwanaZulia]

If he is still not ready, another option would be to put PennyBoy on the PUP list for the first eight games and let him come back for the 2nd half of the season.

I honestly don't see where Chad won't be ready.

His injury and surgery were a full 5 months earlier this time, meaning he had all that more time to heal and rehab.

I think Chad will be ready to play and will be healthy but at what percentage of his former self.

BZ

[Sperm Edwards]

If he is still not ready, another option would be to put PennyBoy on the PUP list for the first eight games and let him come back for the 2nd half of the season.

What does that accomplish?

If we're doing well with Ramsey/Clemens why rock the boat with someone who hasn't thrown a football to any of our receivers since the summer (I don't think they allow players to go through practices with the team & stay on the PUP list - isn't it one of those "sh*t or get off the pot' things?)

If Ramsey was the de facto starter for the first 8 weeks & we're pretty much eliminated from the playoffs, we'd want to get Clemens as much game-experience as possible.

Typical stupid Patsie post.

[Sperm Edwards]

Sperm, you're right on the money once again, quality post all around. I'm also in 110% agreement with your depth charts.

Except 1 thing - right now technically there is a small penalty for cutting Ramsey, since we converted $250K of his salary into a RB. $250K isn't much of a penalty when we're millions under the cap & there are no FA's out there anyway.

Thanks though.

[PatsFanTX]

What does that accomplish?

If we're doing well with Ramsey/Clemens why rock the boat with someone who hasn't thrown a football to any of our receivers since the summer (I don't think they allow players to go through practices with the team & stay on the PUP list - isn't it one of those "sh*t or get off the pot' things?)

If Ramsey was the de facto starter for the first 8 weeks & we're pretty much eliminated from the playoffs, we'd want to get Clemens as much game-experience as possible.

Typical stupid Patsie post.

It gives him another 3 months to get ready.

He said he was 100% for the opener last season, and we all saw how that turned out.

[SoFlaJets]

It gives him another 3 months to get ready.

He said he was 100% for the opener last season, and we all saw how that turned out.

no Herm said he was 87% ready or some stupid number-you'd think that the HC would actually know-he really did Pennington a disservice and may have ruined his career

[BwanaZulia]

It gives him another 3 months to get ready.

He said he was 100% for the opener last season, and we all saw how that turned out.

I don't think he every said he was 100% ready.

BZ

[124]

Except 1 thing - right now technically there is a small penalty for cutting Ramsey, since we converted $250K of his salary into a RB. $250K isn't much of a penalty when we're millions under the cap & there are no FA's out there anyway.

Thanks though.

Comeon Spermy, you're dealing with a Ramsey fan / supporter here, you know there is no way he will be let go.

[PatsFanTX]

no Herm said he was 87% ready or some stupid number-you'd think that the HC would actually know-he really did Pennington a disservice and may have ruined his career

I remember the Hermy comment when he used that ridiculous 87% number.

But PennyBoy himself said he was 100% at the start of last year, when it was very obvious that he ws no where being close to 100%.

[Sperm Edwards]

no Herm said he was 87% ready or some stupid number-you'd think that the HC would actually know-he really did Pennington a disservice and may have ruined his career

:rl:

I totally forgot about that one. Right. He was like 87% ready or 89% ready or some dumb crap like that with an exact number. As though he'd hooked up Chad to a gold-standard, QB-readiness-meter & this was the # it spit out. Like he was 87% ready - definitely more than 86% ready but not quite 88% ready. What a maroon.

[PatsFanTX]

:rl:

I totally forgot about that one. Right. He was like 87% ready or 89% ready or some dumb crap like that with an exact number. As though he'd hooked up Chad to a gold-standard, QB-readiness-meter & this was the # it spit out. Like he was 87% ready - definitely more than 86% ready but not quite 88% ready. What a maroon.

I'm suprised Hermy didn't carry it out to the hundreths.

[KSJets]

I'm suprised Hermy didn't carry it out to the hundreths.

He can't even tell time, so no way this would have worked. He would have needed Dick Curl to become his algebra tutor instead of just clock specialist and we saw how well he was at helping Herm tell time

[SoFlaJets]

I'm suprised Hermy didn't carry it out to the hundreths.

LOL 87.35% to be more exact-I'm so glad that guy is gone-now...What bothers me is I didn't think he was that bad(unlike how JFF was telling us he was) I was willing to let the clock management thing go esp.when he hired Curl to heelp him with it.I looked at it as a guy who knew his shortcoming and was OK with getting help in that dept.

I think when I saw him asking Heimerdinger whether he should accept a penalty on the sidelines or not that it finally sunk in.

[Sperm Edwards]

I'm suprised Hermy didn't carry it out to the hundreths.

SoFlaJets brought back that then-painful memory. I remember thinking: this is my beloved team's head coach. No WAY he just said that out loud. No WAY! Ugh. We are so dead this year.

[SoFlaJets]

He can't even tell time, so no way this would have worked. He would have needed Dick Curl to become his algebra tutor instead of just clock specialist and we saw how well he was at helping Herm tell time

LOL good one KS

[Maxman]

It gives him another 3 months to get ready.

He said he was 100% for the opener last season, and we all saw how that turned out.

Chad was about 60% for the opener. Which would have been fine except the rest of the team was about 50%.

[SoFlaJets]

yea and that WAS a shock was it not?I mean who expected that?The first 2 runs covered like 75 yards-I thought about an openeing day a couple of years back when Buffalo smoked NE like 35-0 and thought oh well it might be one of those - not to worry ... WRONG

[124]

That was the worst opening day since 99.

[Cant Hackett]

Chad was about 60% for the opener. Which would have been fine except the rest of the team was about 50%.

Chad

[FoxJet]

Jets | Team starting contract negotiations with Ferguson

Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:21:50 -0700

Rich Cimini, of the New York Daily News, reports the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl">New York Jets started preliminary contract talks with rookie OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson.

Jets | Ramsey re-signed

Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:16:39 -0700

Rich Cimini, of the New York Daily News, reports the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl">New York Jets extended the contract of QB Patrick Ramsey. He received a one-year, $2.1 million extension through 2007. In exchange for postponing his free-agent year, Ramsey got a small guarantee from the Jets, receiving $250,000 of his nonguaranteed base salary for this season ($1.7 million) in the form of a roster bonus that was paid June 30.

[Untouchable]

I remember the Hermy comment when he used that ridiculous 87% number.

But PennyBoy himself said he was 100% at the start of last year, when it was very obvious that he ws no where being close to 100%.

I agree TX.

I think Chad just didn't want the fans and media worrying about him. He definately wasn't 100% last season. Chad never had a cannon but he had a watergun during those 3 games in 2005.

From all the reports out of mini camp last month, it looked like Chad had most of his velocity back and Cannizzaro (not exactly a Chad fan) said that Penny didn't look injured at all.

For the record, I know that Clemens is the future. I just think that Chad will be our starter for the next year or two.

[SoFlaJets]

say what you will but it takes a pretty good passer to put up consecutive 350 yard games

Week 2 @ATL W 33-31 25 39 356 64.1 9.13 35 2 0 110.6

Week 3 NYG L 24-21 (OT) 23 45 348 51.1 7.73 34 2 1 82.5