Blackout Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 http://www.yahoo.com/s/441205 I still don't see anyone surpassing what Barry Sanders could do to you on any given day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 lt is an amazing back. time will tell where he finishes in comparison to the all-time greats. for all the criticism cmart receives for compiling stats, longevity is so dificult in the nfl today, moreso that the past. i would love to see jim brown, earl campbell, or oj simpson take the pounding from nfl defenses today. look at a guy like portis, 5 years of pounding and he has already lost some luster. give lt a few more seasons of 300+ carries and we'll see how he looks at 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet38 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Thomlinson is a better all around threat. Sanders was a better running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Thomlinson is a better all around threat. Sanders was a better running back. Neither one of those guys is near the best of all time. Jim Brown, Payton, Campbell, and OJ were all considerably better IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 http://www.yahoo.com/s/441205 I still don't see anyone surpassing what Barry Sanders could do to you on any given day If he stays healthy through 10 seasons, he will have close to 15K yards and twice the amount of cathces Barry had. TDs will not even be close. Barry was great and is number 1. The one thing Barry has on LT is his moves. LT is carrying another 20 pounds though. Barry is number 1 for now, but LT is making a serious run at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 If Tomlinson keeps this up for another 5 years, he may be the greatest PLAYER of all-time, much less running back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 If Tomlinson keeps this up for another 5 years, he may be the greatest PLAYER of all-time, much less running back. Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 Neither one of those guys is near the best of all time. Jim Brown, Payton, Campbell, and OJ were all considerably better IMO. Barry Sanders at both his peak, and in overall career value, was leapyears ahead of OJ and Campbell and while Brown and Payton are great, I can't help but think Sanders and Emmit have surpassed them. The fact Emmit was able to get 900 yards in Arizona at age 61 is one of the greatest accomplishments of all time it was much harder to be a RB in the 90s than it was in Jim Browns day and emmit holds every rushing record there is by a mile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justincredible Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 If Tomlinson keeps this up for another 5 years, he may be the greatest PLAYER of all-time, much less running back. I agree. The man is flat out ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 4 more TD's tonight. The guy is a freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 If Tomlinson keeps this up for another 5 years, he may be the greatest PLAYER of all-time, much less running back. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Christ, this guy is not human. This is the Broncos defense too, I thought it was the best in the league, but LT made them look like chumps. Man, if this guy keeps this up, I don't see how anyone can beat the Chargers this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Case closed. Barry couldn't do what LT can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 Case closed. Barry couldn't do what LT can do. how many 2000 yard seasons has LT had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 how many 2000 yard seasons has LT had? So Jamal Lewis is better then LT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 LT does it all. Runs, receives, throws, etc. LT is the best, Barry is second. Period. Barry had 109 TD's in 10 seasons, LT has 102 through 5 and a half... add that to your yardage stats home boy. Receiving yardage also swings towards LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 LT does it all. Runs, receives, throws, etc. LT is the best, Barry is second. Period. Barry had 109 TD's in 10 seasons, LT has 102 through 5 and a half... add that to your yardage stats home boy. Receiving yardage also swings towards LT. touchdowns are a team stat would you say Tiki Barber isn't having as good of a season as Kevin Barlow because he has less touchdowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 touchdowns are a team stat would you say Tiki Barber isn't having as good of a season as Kevin Barlow because he has less touchdowns? TDs might be a team stat, but all those other RBs play on teams too. You can't take those TDs away from LT. He's playing on a team with Gates, Turner and a lot of other talented players. The guy is just amazing. Why are you hating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 TDs might be a team stat, but all those other RBs play on teams too. You can't take those TDs away from LT. He's playing on a team with Gates, Turner and a lot of other talented players. The guy is just amazing. Why are you hating? im not hating at all, LT is the best RB in the game right now i just think its way too early to compare him to the legends. give it 3-4 more years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 im not hating at all, LT is the best RB in the game right now i just think its way too early to compare him to the legends. give it 3-4 more years I agree, and I think most in this thread do too. But I also think...it is kind of doubtful that he won't surpass everyone else at the rate he is going. If he keeps this up for another 5 years, I just don't see how he isn't just the greatest RB of all time, he's probably the greatest player of all time period. It's just frankly absurd. The way the Chargers are built, and with LT's work ethic and durability, seriously, do you really think LT is going to fall off within the next 4 years? So yeah, let's give it some time, but at the same time...we should probably appreciate what this guy is doing, and not expect him to fail too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloogy Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I agree, and I think most in this thread do too. But I also think...it is kind of doubtful that he won't surpass everyone else at the rate he is going. If he keeps this up for another 5 years, I just don't see how he isn't just the greatest RB of all time, he's probably the greatest player of all time period. It's just frankly absurd. The way the Chargers are built, and with LT's work ethic and durability, seriously, do you really think LT is going to fall off within the next 4 years? So yeah, let's give it some time, but at the same time...we should probably appreciate what this guy is doing, and not expect him to fail too much. Funny, around here everyone thinks he is the second coming of god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I doubt LT will keep up this current pace for 4-5 years. Schottenheimer will run him into the ground in less than 3. Enjoy the show before that happens, because you'll probably never see a RB score like this current streak ever again. What is that now, 20 TD's in the last 6 games? Just checked - yep. 16 rushing, 3 receiving, 1 passing. Just amazing. Regarding the LT vs this-or-that RB, let's see the guy finish being in his prime first. Barry was just incredible, but he also used to routinely lead the NFL in carries for lost-yardage. So while his dancing around made the NFL PrimeTime clips with regularity, he also left gobs of yards on the field over his 10 years by not taking the sure 3 yards. Both are/were elusive runners, but I'd have to give Barry the nod in that category. He was also more dangerous in the open-field. But you weren't going to pound Barry into the line to wear down a power-defense the way LT can. LT is also a better receiver out of the backfield, and don't ignore that HB-options are not throw-away's unless the receiver is on his own 15-yd island. He's thrown 4 TD passes (so far) over the past 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I doubt LT will keep up this current pace for 4-5 years. Schottenheimer will run him into the ground in less than 3. Enjoy the show before that happens, because you'll probably never see a RB score like this current streak ever again. What is that now, 20 TD's in the last 6 games? Just checked - yep. 16 rushing, 3 receiving, 1 passing. Just amazing. I honestly doubt it. I think he averages about 20 rushes a game, and maybe 4 or 5 receptions. He's not going to wear down at that pace, at least, I don't think he will. Last year I actually thought it was amazingly stupid at how little the Chargers used LT, especially the first 4 or 5 games of the season. They started using him more as the season went on, but still, Schottenheimer, to his credit, is definitely keeping himself from overusing LT. A lot of times he'll get 4th quarters off too if the game is a blowout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I honestly doubt it. I think he averages about 20 rushes a game, and maybe 4 or 5 receptions. He's not going to wear down at that pace, at least, I don't think he will. Last year I actually thought it was amazingly stupid at how little the Chargers used LT, especially the first 4 or 5 games of the season. They started using him more as the season went on, but still, Schottenheimer, to his credit, is definitely keeping himself from overusing LT. A lot of times he'll get 4th quarters off too if the game is a blowout. 2001: 398 touches (rushes + receptions) 2002: 451 touches 2003: 413 touches 2004: 392 touches 2005: 391 touches 2006: 258 touches through 10 games = on pace for 413 touches Time will tell how he holds up over the next 3-5 years, but that's a lot of times to get tackled by 250-350-lb monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentos Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 it was much harder to be a RB in the 90s than it was in Jim Browns day I'm not sure that is true. I think RBs had shorter careers back then. Defenders got away with more abuse back then. 1. Jim Brown 2. Walter Payton 3. O.J. Simpson 4. Gale Sayers 5. LaDainian Tomlinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Right now, Barry Sanders in his prime or LT in his prime I take LT every time, and twice on Sunday. Sanders is/was awesome, but LT can do it running, can run up the middle and get the tough yard, SCORES TDs, and participates in the passing game (receiving, I'm not talking about his option passes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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