Barton Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Get real. They have been cheating before and after they got caught Week 1. They probably just use a smaller hidden camera now instead of the big one with the guy on the tripod. Like it or not Pats fans, but your team cheated. You deserve the embarassment of losing this Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Get real. They have been cheating before and after they got caught Week 1. They probably just use a smaller hidden camera now instead of the big one with the guy on the tripod. Like it or not Pats fans, but your team cheated. You deserve the embarassment of losing this Sunday. Oh and can a mod fix the title to "Does" instead of "oes"? thanks Like they say, a leopard can't change its spots. Once a cheat, always a cheat. They could find a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I wish the Jets could find a way to cheat and make the super bowl 4 times in 7 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I wish the Jets could find a way to cheat and make the super bowl 4 times in 7 years Yeah, get Rodney H to hook D'Brick and D-Rob up with some of that HGH he loves so much. That's the way to win. Like the Pats say, if you aint cheating, you aint trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 would be much better than having a team made up of high character, college captains... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Like they say, a leopard can't change its spots. Once a cheat, always a cheat. They could find a way. Do you think Mangni lost or forgot thopse lessons from being Belichick's protoge for 10 years? Get real. They have been cheating before and after they got caught Week 1. They probably just use a smaller hidden camera now instead of the big one with the guy on the tripod. Like it or not Pats fans, but your team cheated. You deserve the embarassment of losing this Sunday. Riddle me this Bartman, why didn't they do this before and what makes you think no other team is dong this? **Cough cough** Jets filming from the mezzanine. Oh and can a mod fix the title to "Does" instead of "oes"? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Do you think Mangni lost or forgot thopse lessons from being Belichick's protoge for 10 years? 4-12 tells me that yes he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Do you think Mangni lost or forgot thopse lessons from being Belichick's protoge for 10 years? It's one thing to aquiesce and go along with the program when the Aryan brotherhood are tatooing a swastika into your ass cheek with a soldering iron and quite another to carry on going along with the program after you have been paroled already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 It's one thing to aquiesce and go along with the program when the Aryan brotherhood are tatooing a swastika into your ass cheek with a soldering iron and quite another to carry on going along with the program after you have been paroled already. If said parole had thought so highly of his morals and beliefs, said parole would have went elsewhere sooner. A tad disengenious to reap the benefits and then go crying, "He cheated." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 If said parole had thought so highly of his morals and beliefs, said parole would have went elsewhere sooner. A tad disengenious to reap the benefits and then go crying, "He cheated." I am not so convinced about that. He was a pretty darned wet-behind-the-ears DC at the time of his parole into the forces of light. How much younger would he need to be in order to have left town untainted by the stank of cheaterism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Is there any doubt that Barton is a whiney-azz baby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I completely agree. If they didn't cheat, they wouldn't be the Patriots. If they weren't dirty, they wouldn't be the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I am not so convinced about that. He was a pretty darned wet-behind-the-ears DC at the time of his parole into the forces of light. How much younger would he need to be in order to have left town untainted by the stank of cheaterism? How objetionable did Eric find, what many former NFL players and coaches admitted to as a common practice, the Patriots' use of camera hi-jinx? By all appearances, he is a bright NFL mind. I do not think it would have been that hard to find a job. Granted, riding the Belichick gravy train got him a HC job probably before he would have gotten one otherwise, but I digress. At the very least, Eric knowingly turned the other cheap to reap the benefits of Belichick's cheating and rode the wave of Patriots' success to a HC job. Or he willingly participated in the Patriots' cheating and rode the residual beenfit to the HC of the NYJ job. I am sure if it was that objectionable, he would have left alot earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 How objetionable did Eric find, what many former NFL players and coaches admitted to as a common practice, the Patriots' use of camera hi-jinx? By all appearances, he is a bright NFL mind. I do not think it would have been that hard to find a job. Granted, riding the Belichick gravy train got him a HC job probably before he would have gotten one otherwise, but I digress. At the very least, Eric knowingly turned the other cheap to reap the benefits of Belichick's cheating and rode the wave of Patriots' success to a HC job. Or he willingly participated in the Patriots' cheating and rode the residual beenfit to the HC of the NYJ job. I am sure if it was that objectionable, he would have left alot earlier. Trying to steal signs was common. Videotaping opponents was not. Therefore the practice that "many" coaches conceded was common was not the one which which was at issue in this case, nor was it the one that led to the penalties. Nice try. Downright Patriotesque in it's Weasal-quotient even As I said, Eric Mangini's actions (or inactions to be more accurate) while living and working within the shadow of the evil empire are understandable under the circumstances and even forgivable assuming he promised to sin no more once he got out from under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Trying to steal signs was common. Videotaping opponents was not. Therefore the practice that "many" coaches conceded was common was not the one which which was at issue in this case, nor was it the one that led to the penalties. Nice try. Downright Patriotesque in it's Weasal-quotient even As I said, Eric Mangini's actions (or inactions to be more accurate) while living and working within the shadow of the evil empire are understandable under the circumstances and even forgivable assuming he promised to sin no more once he got out from under. When Jimmy Johnson said they did the same thing when he first got into the NFL during the 80s, the Patriots obviously did not blaze the trail. Obviously, they did not perfect it either. I think Mangini is alot more involved in this then he wants to ever admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 When Jimmy Johnson said they did the same thing when he first got into the NFL during the 80s, the Patriots obviously did not blaze the trail. Obviously, they did not perfect it either. I think Mangini is alot more involved in this then he wants to ever admit. I'd expect any Pats fan to say the same thing. BTW: and cheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 One thing I cannot understand is why we continue to talk about this? Are we such bitter fans that we have to continue to harp on this??? Give it up already. Its a waste of time and energy to continue to whine and cry about this. It only makes you look small and petty and jealous. No wonder Giants fans bug you people so much. You people continue to stir the sh!t well after the incident it over. If I was a Giants fan I would rub it in your face also. Give it up already. Move on. By continuing to make threads like this you continue having the Patsie trolls around here. You give them the ammunition they need to continue their Patsie propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 One thing I cannot understand is why we continue to talk about this? Are we such bitter fans that we have to continue to harp on this??? Give it up already. Its a waste of time and energy to continue to whine and cry about this. It only makes you look small and petty and jealous. No wonder Giants fans bug you people so much. You people continue to stir the sh!t well after the incident it over. If I was a Giants fan I would rub it in your face also. Give it up already. Move on. By continuing to make threads like this you continue having the Patsie trolls around here. You give them the ammunition they need to continue their Patsie propaganda. Yes, I am bitter. And yes people will talk about it forever, because they got caught. Do other teams do it? Of course. Does it make it right, nope. But, they did get caught, if they do win it will always be tainted. But, they aren't going to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Which reminds me of the WC Fields movie where he is playing cards with a few guys and another guy asks if he can join. They say sure. The new guy sits down and asks "is this a game of chance?" WC Fields replies: "Not the way I play it". Always kills me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Sometimes this site is annoying to read. This guy thinks it's okay to blame Mangini for cheating but give BB and the Pats a complete pass, as if Mangini made them cheat or something. He also thinks LT is a lot less classy than guys taking cheap shots, knocking women up and leaving them, and known performance enhancer users. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Sometimes this site is annoying to read. This guy thinks it's okay to blame Mangini for cheating but give BB and the Pats a complete pass, as if Mangini made them cheat or something. He also thinks LT is a lot less classy than guys taking cheap shots, knocking women up and leaving them, and known performance enhancer users. What a joke. We've disagreed on a lot lately, but I'm in 100% agreement with you on this. The Pats can do no wrong to some people which is a shame. Cheaters never win...except in MLB and the NFL, which is so sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Sometimes this site is annoying to read. This guy thinks it's okay to blame Mangini for cheating but give BB and the Pats a complete pass, as if Mangini made them cheat or something. He also thinks LT is a lot less classy than guys taking cheap shots, knocking women up and leaving them, and known performance enhancer users. What a joke. And a linebacker who said he would like to punch all sportswriters in the mouth for daring to talk about the cheating scandal. This is the same linebacker who the media fawned all over after he came back from heart surgery. Real class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Sometimes this site is annoying to read. This guy thinks it's okay to blame Mangini for cheating but give BB and the Pats a complete pass, as if Mangini made them cheat or something. He also thinks LT is a lot less classy than guys taking cheap shots, knocking women up and leaving them, and known performance enhancer users. What a joke. What I think is amazing is the fact that they continue to throw around accusations with no basis. Innocent until proven guilty...right? BB cheated, it was proven (see the video on youtube) Once a cheater, always a cheater, yet, they defend him as if he was the victim... Any speculation in regards to other coaches is simply a rumor with no basis, or until PROVEN otherwise. Patriots fans for the most part do not come to this forum to talk football, they are here to gloat and not one of them was big enough to say that the Pats cheat...Video, Roids, Audio frequencies and so on.... Not one of them (that I recall) admitted that the NFL let them off the hook without any real penalty and that the so called punishment was partial and unfair. Unlike many others, I'd rather play to lose as we have been, than to have a great record tainted and with plenty of *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Those in glass houses should not throw stones - just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Those in glass houses should not throw stones - just sayin'. Our team wasn't caught cheating - just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Those in glass houses should not throw stones - just sayin'. Yeah, you're right. The Jets got caught cheating. And Mangini shouldn't have "snitched" on the Pats so they could keep doing it against the Jets and every other team in the league. Makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Their newest ploy? http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3219550 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Some of you guys are hysterical! Yes, BB infected the Giants with the flu! His powers are amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Some of you guys are hysterical! Yes, BB infected the Giants with the flu! His powers are amazing! It was a ****ing joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 It was a ****ing joke. really? no **** way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 We've disagreed on a lot lately, but I'm in 100% agreement with you on this. The Pats can do no wrong to some people which is a shame. Cheaters never win...except in MLB and the NFL, which is so sad. Watch TheGARV's video this week. He talks about this and he is correct. They got a slap on the wrist and life is back to normal for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Those in glass houses should not throw stones - just sayin'. Great point. Put down your rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Word on the street is that the Pats have the cure for the common cold but are holding back to after the Super Bowl to divulge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Great point. Put down your rocks. No rocks, I throw sand. Far more annoying and less liable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 Pats fans have their heads shoved so far up Belichicks a** a ford truck wouldnt be able to pull it out. Just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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