124 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Name 6 pass rushers you would rather have.He's 26 and he a sack monster. Are we just counting DE's or OLB's as well? Shawne Merriman DeMarcus Ware Osi Umenyiora Dwight Freeney Aaron Kampman Aaron Schoebel Julius Peppers Jason Taylor Possibly Justin Tuck since he can play 43 DT or 43 E Theres two more there, obviously 34 OLB's, just in case OLB's were able to be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Are we just counting DE's or OLB's as well? Shawne Merriman DeMarcus Ware Osi Umenyiora Dwight Freeney Aaron Kampman Aaron Schoebel Julius Peppers Jason Taylor Possibly Justin Tuck since he can play 43 DT or 43 E Theres two more there, obviously 34 OLB's, just in case OLB's were able to be included. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 No. Sorry, but Jared Allen is not as good as Umenyiora, Freeney or Taylor, it isn't even a discussion. The others are arguable. He'll shine in Minnesota though with about 15+ sacks due to Kevin & Pat Williams. He'll be insane there. That team is going to be very, very good if Tavaris Jackson matures into something decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Are we just counting DE's or OLB's as well? Shawne Merriman The things I would do to this man. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Just DE's... Jared Allen right now is better than that entire list. Obviously differnt DE's fit different schemes better but Allen is as good if not better on the field than all of all of them except Peppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 The things I would do to this man. Would you help him inject the needle into his ass cheek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 The only one I really see an argument for is Shawn Merriman. Jared Allen is among the top 3 pass rushers in the league, and especially considering his age and lack of injury history. And if we're talking about 4-3, you have to take Merriman off that list too. The guy is a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Bugeater....that type of nonsense is not allowed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Would you help him inject the needle into his ass cheek? No but I'd definatly slime his pole :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Sorry, but Jared Allen is not as good as Umenyiora, Freeney or Taylor, it isn't even a discussion. The others are arguable. He'll shine in Minnesota though with about 15+ sacks due to Kevin & Pat Williams. He'll be insane there. That team is going to be very, very good if Tavaris Jackson matures into something decent. Uminyoura is mediocre without the eagles padding his stats, freeney is small and hurt all the time and Gayson is old and can't stop the run. Allen is better than all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Yes because as we all know the Kansas City Chiefs have been the staple for stopping the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Yes because as we all know the Kansas City Chiefs have been the staple for stopping the run. How does a DE stop the run by himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 How does a DE stop the run by himself? Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Exactly. The same goes for any player on that list though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Are we just counting DE's or OLB's as well? Shawne Merriman DeMarcus Ware Osi Umenyiora Dwight Freeney Aaron Kampman Aaron Schoebel Julius Peppers Jason Taylor Possibly Justin Tuck since he can play 43 DT or 43 E Theres two more there, obviously 34 OLB's, just in case OLB's were able to be included. Bryan Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 The chiefs are so stupid. I think they felt that they just couldn't resign him after this year Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Make no mistake about it, Minnesota now has arguably the best 43 Defesive Line in Football and the Chiefs with their SIX selections in the first 100 should be able to rebuild strongly in this years draft. They may not be great next year, but by 2009, 2010, IF they draft well, this could be a team to reckon with. Jared Allen isn't worth that Minnesota gave up, I could honestly tell you at least five or six pass rushers I'd rather have off the top of my head, but they needed a pass rusher badly and he was expendable to Kansas City for that amount of solid draft picks. Nice solid post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I honestly don't think that KC's trade really changed the top of the draft at all. Oakland will NOT be taking Chris Long despite what I'm seeing here. KC STILL has HUGE gaping holes on it's O line. I mentioned yesterday that SI's Don Banks had KC taking Albert at #5. I lughed at the time but now I'm thinking Hmmm maybe they just might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I honestly don't think that KC's trade really changed the top of the draft at all. Oakland will NOT be taking Chris Long despite what I'm seeing here. KC STILL has HUGE gaping holes on it's O line. I mentioned yesterday that SI's Don Banks had KC taking Albert at #5. I lughed at the time but now I'm thinking Hmmm maybe they just might. Unfortunately for us this year's draft is as deep as it's ever been for top end O-lineman. I think they go end with their first pick if Long or Gholston is there. I hate Herm so much it hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Wait its about 5am and i saw this thread and the world is spinning and i dont know whats going on AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! is this terrible news? is it now more likely that my nightmare scenario will occur? (Long, Gholston and DMC gone before we pick?) How likely is it? NOOOOOOOO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Well the Jets can still land "HE Who Must Not Be Named."(ARK RB) but ultimately, KC still has to fix their O-line, they won 4 games with 15 1/2 sacks from allen. so them drafting a pass rusher would be kinda stupid That Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I love when Jet fans lament winning games. It makes SOOOOOOOO much sense. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Yeah, this really does suck. I knew this was going to screw us in the end. KC will take the best DE if available instead of o line because their is more depth at the o line spot. Long and Gholston are difference makers immediately. So maybe we trade down also. Which in the end might not be that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Well the Jets can still land "HE Who Must Not Be Named."(ARK RB) but ultimately, KC still has to fix their O-line, they won 4 games with 15 1/2 sacks from allen. so them drafting a pass rusher would be kinda stupid No, KC's defense kept them in games last season. Allen leaves a huge hole and KC could still go OL with Minny's 1st pick. Futhermore , they get Gholston way cheaper than Allen for at least 4 years. Herm is a mastermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardChiefsFan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Yeah, this really does suck. I knew this was going to screw us in the end. KC will take the best DE if available instead of o line because their is more depth at the o line spot. Long and Gholston are difference makers immediately. So maybe we trade down also. Which in the end might not be that bad. long nor gholston are gonna step in and play like allen tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 $12.3M per year? 6 years, $74M with $31M guaranteed. This is what his contract demands were? I take back my stance that the Chiefs should have kept him (being that they were in such solid cap shape). That's insane. I don't throw compliments around to Peterson or Herm, but this was definitely a good move for KC. They get the #17 pick (at maybe $3M per year) and a pair of 3rd rounders for maybe another $1M per year combined. But that's way too much, particularly for a player with two strikes against him for DUI. One more and Goodell is going to suspend him. Throw in that with or without Jared Allen, the Chiefs are going to be awful again this year & probably next year as well. At a minimum, they'll suck until Herm is gone & then however long it takes someone to mold them into serious contenders after that. $12.3 million dollars per year. For a guy one strike away from getting suspended. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuRRiCaNe ViLMa Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 No but I'd definatly slime his pole :p hahahahahahaha i like that attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 WTF did KC get ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 The Vikings are so stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 WTF did KC get ? 1st 3rd 3rd Swap 6th rd picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 1st 3rd 3rd Swap 6th rd picks I just saw it, are the Vikes stupid ? That was pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 THe Flim Flam man gets another year just by subtracting Allen What, are they supposed to win now without their best player??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 THe Flim Flam man gets another year just by subtracting Allen What, are they supposed to win now without their best player??????? The Chiefs future can look BRIGHT after this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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