Obrien2Toon Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I have lost all faith in the pro bowl selections after this. And have to question all of his other pro bowl selections. The guy is definetly not deserving of this. I always thought it was tough to judge who the top guards are. The tackle positions are a little more obvious. This selection is all based on his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 It has always been a popularity contest but he has made a huge impact on this offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 So? So, I've seen him get beat off the ball too many times to count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 How is Faneca not deserving of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 So, I've seen him get beat off the ball too many times to count. Cmon dude you either are a pissed off Steeler fan or this guy blew you off for an autograph. The offensive line play has drastically improved and Faneca was a big part of it. You want to point fingers look at the defensive side of the ball. And who really cares about the Pro Bowl anyway, it adds nothing to the teams record and is never watched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Remember, Pro Bowl starters are more on reputation than they are on skill... with that said, Faneca has been good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 So, I've seen him get beat off the ball too many times to count. Are you a Jets fan? If so, why would you care if he is deserving..he made it and that's that. People get too worked up over a glorified exhibition game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 I personally think that he isn't even the best guard on the team. You have him and Moore play with no names and numbers on their backs and people would say he was the probowler of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 Are you a Jets fan? If so, why would you care if he is deserving..he made it and that's that. People get too worked up over a glorified exhibition game. You're absolutely correct, and I don't care about the game. It's the fact that they use it when they are going for contracts. Like Alan Faneca 7 time probowler or whatever. You don't think that helped him in getting that ridiculous contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 You're absolutely correct, and I don't care about the game. It's the fact that they use it when they are going for contracts. Like Alan Faneca 7 time probowler or whatever. You don't think that helped him in getting that ridiculous contract. Of course. Pro Bowl is certainly used for leverage. Everyone goes nuts over who was "snubbed" or who shouldn't have got in. I have a confession to make..I don't even watch the pro-bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I agree he shouldn't be starting but he's been very good and helped this team in a BIG way. It's not a coincidence that our offensive line has improved in every area with the arrival of this guy. He's contributed IMO in more ways than one. Also, you lose faith in the pro bowl sytem "after" this? Is this your first season watching the NFL or what?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I agree he shouldn't be starting but he's been very good and helped this team in a BIG way. It's not a coincidence that our offensive line has improved in every area with the arrival of this guy. He's contributed IMO in more ways than one. Also, you lose faith in the pro bowl sytem "after" this? Is this your first season watching the NFL or what?!? You have to remember, Faneca simply isnt getting the nod for the probowl because of his play. Look at the difference between the Jets last year to this year. We have a AFC leading rusher and tops in TD's who is going to the probowl. We have a Top ranking QB that is going to the pro bowl. I believe the Jets are tops in the NFL in scoring and if not then its certainly in the AFC. These things count you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I have lost all faith in the pro bowl selections after this. And have to question all of his other pro bowl selections. The guy is definetly not deserving of this. I always thought it was tough to judge who the top guards are. The tackle positions are a little more obvious. This selection is all based on his name. And I suppose Bill's LT Peters had a Pro Bowl year too ? He sucked this year after holding out TC and he made it. If he deserved it Fanaca deserved it 10 times more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Of course. Pro Bowl is certainly used for leverage. Everyone goes nuts over who was "snubbed" or who shouldn't have got in. I have a confession to make..I don't even watch the pro-bowl. Who does ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 It is no mere coincidence Fanaca arrival helps Mangold becomes a pro-bowler and D'brick gets screwed out of the pro-bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 You want something to be pissed at? Be pissed that Mangold isn't starting and Mawae is. Mangold is simply better than Mawae at this point in time. Mawae is starting based on rep, not performance. Mangold is now the best center in the AFC and possibly the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 No doubt that Fanaca isn't quite the player he used to be. But look at the improvement of the Jets o-line from 2007. In 2007, Pennington/Clemens were killed on pass attempts and people wanted to get rid of Thomas Jones. If the pass protection was the same this year, Favre's starting streak would have ended at the beginning of the season. And Jones is having a super year. And give Washington all the credit in the world for his moves and speed on those long TD runs, but most of them started with some very nice holes. Fanaca has had a lot to do with the improvement. Yes, rep has a lot to do with the Pro Bowl. And Fanaca deserves that rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I personally think that he isn't even the best guard on the team. You have him and Moore play with no names and numbers on their backs and people would say he was the probowler of the two. Just kill yourself and do everyone a favor.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I think he deserves to start. He's always been a great run blocker and he pulls better and faster than any G i've seen. Also looks like his pass protection has been decent too. That's always been his weakness. At least you guys got to see the improvement that we Steeler fans always expected from him in pass blocking. Any way of finding out how many sacks given up could be attributed to him this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Who cares? People bitch when the Jets get no Pro Bowl love, and now they complain when the Jets get 7? Simple stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 Just kill yourself and do everyone a favor.... Today's paper says "clearly Faneca choice is based on name value, he is already responsible for 6 1/2 sacks this season." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 and clearly every word written in the papers is correct and not opinionated or biased.. yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 and clearly every word written in the papers is correct and not opinionated or biased.. yawn true but the 6 1/2 sacks is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 and the improved play of the offensive line is due to what? improved running game? unless you are part owner of the team and actually paying him why exactly do you care? and why are you not more concerned with some of the high priced guys on defense not earning their checks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 true but the 6 1/2 sacks is accurate. Actually... that stat rarely paints an accurate picture. The line and blocking schemes are designed to work as a unit and if somebody misses their assignment or fails at it the rest of the line/scheme can be at a greater risk of failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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