neckdemon Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 the one thing i've noticed that i think sanchez really needs to work on is his play-action fakes. yeah i'm sure the game is still a bit fast for him and that's affecting it...but he needs to sell the fake a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I see what you're saying. He almost looks like he forgets sometimes, he's done some pretty good ones too so I don't think it will be a long term issue and heck it seems to be working anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 well, the o-line is usually more effective in that regard anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 well, the o-line is usually more effective in that regard anyway yeah....i was just pointing it out as something he could do a little work on. like i said...i'm sure part of it is he still has to get used to the speed of the game. i should look at some of his work at usc and see if he was doing the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 yeah....i was just pointing it out as something he could do a little work on. like i said...i'm sure part of it is he still has to get used to the speed of the game. i should look at some of his work at usc and see if he was doing the same thing. I've noticed it as well, sometimes he gives it a quick "flick" movement, sometimes he seems to even do it to the wrong side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 My prediction is that tipped/batted balls will be one of Sanchez' negatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 My prediction is that tipped/batted balls will be one of Sanchez' negatives. For the first year or two at the very least. Hopefully it is something he can work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 For the first year or two at the very least. His height scares into believing it might be a career thing. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Peyton Manning does a similar "flick" like play fake. The reason for it...I think...is because typically the first option is some type of quick slant to the middle of the field which takes a quick delivery and to get the ball off early. Or its a timing route to the sidelines which you also need to get rid of the ball quick even though you are buying sometime using the fake. Typically, they are down field quick strikes with hopes for YAC. I say this because they both do something similar but then I've also seen some really nice fakes where the hold it long and hide it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 His ethnicity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 his breathing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 His ethnicity? ..... White people really can't get over this inferiority complex they feel about other races. It's not our fault you guys don't have dominant genes. You think that if you guys were really the master race your genes wouldn't be so recessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 ..... White people really can't get over this inferiority complex they feel about other races. It's not our fault you guys don't have dominant genes. You think that if you guys were really the master race your genes wouldn't be so recessive. I wish I had that extra muscle. Id be in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 His height scares into believing it might be a career thing. We'll see. his release point is pretty high tho, no worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Yeah I noticed the problem with getting balls deflected at the line as well. I don't know what the NFL average is, I believe 10-13 is the high in a season however, I suspect the average is only about 5 a season. Even if he's on the high end, it shouldn't be too bad if he stays within the numbers. I like watching Ben, Cutler and Brees play precisely for the reason that all 3 guys move around the pocket and get optimal lanes to throw with. None of them gets many if any passes batted down. I gotta see more of Sanchez but he might be able to follow that route. That's probably the best thing to do to avoid passed deflected at the line. As far as I can tell, these guys are the only 3 that really roll with the movement of their WRs. Ben does it weirdly though sometimes, he goes the opposite direction, this is also one reason why he takes a lot of sacks. I think Cutler and Brees are better to emulate for a young QB, but they'd be hard to copy too. Ben would be insane to emulate since he extends plays so much, avoids the rush a lot, and keeps looking downfield, while pump faking to pressure the defense. But I guess the pocket movement can be imitated a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I've definitely noticed the play action issue as well. Obviously its a fairly minor thing, and if that's the biggest problem so far for our rookie QB, then we are certainly very blessed. I do find it surprising how little he actually sells it though. I'm sure if its something the coaches feel is an issue, they'll address it. I doubt its something Sanchez would find hard to pick up and it seems like the Jets have had success teaching it to QBs in the past. I distinctly remember being impressed at how well Ainge faked during his play in the preseason, which is not something I remembered from him in the past, even in the limited time we saw him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 In terms of balls getting batted at the line, there's a lot more to that than just height. There have been taller QBs with crappy mechanics and low release points who constantly get balls batted, and QBs shorter than Sanchez who never seem to have that problem. Brees is one of the shortest QBs in the league and is the centerpiece to one of the best offenses in the league. He certainly doesn't seem to have a problem with batted balls. If Sanchez turns out to be as good as he looks like he can be, I have no doubt that he'll be able to avoid this issue the same way other QBs have before him in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 This is just silly. No-one expected Mark Sanchez to do what he's doing in the first place. Just enjoy the ride no matter how the season pans out. I've never been this excited about a Jets QB since Namath in my entire life. After the Texans game and also at 0:00 vs. the Cheats Sanchez still had no clue that he's a rookie. Stay clueless, Mark, thanks. I can't worry about his 'shortcomings'. Haha, c'mon. He has 'it'. That's all I care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 the one thing i've noticed that i think sanchez really needs to work on is his play-action fakes. yeah i'm sure the game is still a bit fast for him and that's affecting it...but he needs to sell the fake a bit more. In comparison to the way Chad Pennington Play Action faked...I can agree. Chad IMO was the best in the NFL at faking the run. But to respond to the thread though, I honestly dont think that Sanchez has a flaw. I dont want to sound like "That Guy" but I think that Sanchez is a freak of nature and he's going to really GO OFF in the NFL. He doesnt do anything wrong at all. I dont count INT's because thats part of the game. Im talking about everything that begins and ends with Mark Sanchez. In this respect I cant say that there is a huge flaw. This guy is a BEAST! and will soon be considered the best QB in the NFL once Peyton, Brady and Breez make their respective exits. Im scared to even say that this guy is rare but he is. He can literally forget bad plays on the dime and immediately regroup and make that one bad play mean nothing by the time you see the final score. He's a beast, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 his release point is pretty high tho, no worries Agreed. On top of the fact that this is still his first year in the league. Once he gets the familiarity of the athleticism of NFL Defensive players. Sanchez is poetic justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 This is just silly. No-one expected Mark Sanchez to do what he's doing in the first place. Just enjoy the ride no matter how the season pans out. I've never been this excited about a Jets QB since Namath in my entire life. After the Texans game and also at 0:00 vs. the Cheats Sanchez still had no clue that he's a rookie. Stay clueless, Mark, thanks. I can't worry about his 'shortcomings'. Haha, c'mon. He has 'it'. That's all I care about. Best thing I've seen you write on this forum. Completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 What a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 His height scares into believing it might be a career thing. We'll see. Thats what I think, but he seems to throws good while moving out of the pocket so it might not be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 His biggest flaws is his ability to generate insane amounts of hype over solid QB'ing. That's a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 the one thing i've noticed that i think sanchez really needs to work on is his play-action fakes. yeah i'm sure the game is still a bit fast for him and that's affecting it...but he needs to sell the fake a bit more. Neckdemon, it's the only thing that shows that it's his rookie year. Give him time & by next season, he'll be just as fast if not faster than a great NFL Quarterback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Neckdemon, it's the only thing that shows that it's his rookie year. Give him time & by next season, he'll be just as fast if not faster than a great NFL Quarterback! belive me...if this is the only thing we wind up having to worry about with him....then we got ourselves a real qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 This is just silly. No-one expected Mark Sanchez to do what he's doing in the first place. Just enjoy the ride no matter how the season pans out. I've never been this excited about a Jets QB since Namath in my entire life. After the Texans game and also at 0:00 vs. the Cheats Sanchez still had no clue that he's a rookie. Stay clueless, Mark, thanks. I can't worry about his 'shortcomings'. Haha, c'mon. He has 'it'. That's all I care about. Perfectly stated. The guy is 6'2". Anyone telling me he is short must be 7' tall. Brees is 2" shorter. (best in the league right now) Passes get deflected. Mark will have his share like any other QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveg Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Throwing memium range passes to his left...He's been picked off a few times and had a few almost picked off. I wonder why that's tough for him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBacker Prime Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Throwing memium range passes to his left...He's been picked off a few times and had a few almost picked off. I wonder why that's tough for him.. He was trying to slip some through, he wasn't throwing bullets and the "D" read him. He still is a rookie and will learn to look these guys off as well as put the necessary zip on the ball. Chad's arm he does not have- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Throwing memium range passes to his left...He's been picked off a few times and had a few almost picked off. I wonder why that's tough for him.. 1 int in 2 games is not a few and does not indicate a trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 1 int in 2 games is not a few and does not indicate a trend. LOL......jets fans can find fault with the size of Jessica Love Hewitt's boobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBacker Prime Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 LOL......jets fans can find fault with the size of Jessica Love Hewitt's boobs Boobs a+, ass on the other hand looked scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveg Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 1 int in 2 games is not a few and does not indicate a trend. I was including the preseason in that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 His biggest flaws is his ability to generate insane amounts of hype over solid QB'ing. That's a big deal. It's his first two career games. Did you expect him to be Drew Brees from jump-street? The hype is deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 It's his first two career games. Did you expect him to be Drew Brees from jump-street? The hype is deserved. Without a doubt. Seriously, for those who have watched NFL longer than me - Has a rookie QB ever started the season and looked so good in his first two starts? Flacco and Ryan were great last season but struggled somewhat early on. This kid has stepped in and looks like he's been doing it his whole life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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