Matt39 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Aaaaand now I'm sad. Dante Jones ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 The NFl doesnt have HGH testing do they? HGH testing is fairly new tbh...it's probably not even used by any of the sports leagues yet...even then do you really think the NFL cares about star players taking PEDs? Steroids "ruined" baseball for many but the NFL just gets stronger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Dante Jones ftw I have never been that excited for a pick, ever. I thought Wallace was such a steal and couldn't believe that kid fell that far after leading Cuse that far along. Then we traded him to Toronto for another pick and I thought we made the biggest mistake when he played well the next year. Then we resigned him. Then we traded him for Erick Strickland. Just too much of an up and down rollercoaster for a player who never did anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 No. Not really. Players like Reddick kill you at the college level because the talent level is spread so thinly that it enables players like Reddick to take advantage of the fact that 9/10 teams can't stop high screens; similarly to why Williams has been competitive every year since forever running the secondary break. This isn't news or anything, and most people know this. uhhhhh he implied JJ when in college, not when he is in NBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 What was the furthest the team got during his run? Are we really arguing that Reddick is a great player? Who cares how good he was in college? John Wallace says whats up uhhhhhhhhh because that was what statement was about... Some of us also look at college ball.. we all know he hasnt been good in NBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I have never been that excited for a pick, ever. I thought Wallace was such a steal and couldn't believe that kid fell that far after leading Cuse that far along. Then we traded him to Toronto for another pick and I thought we made the biggest mistake when he played well the next year. Then we resigned him. Then we traded him for Erick Strickland. Just too much of an up and down rollercoaster for a player who never did anything. Oh god. I forgot the Knicks got Wallace back. Who was the stiff we drafted from Minnesota? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Oh god. I forgot the Knicks got Wallace back. Who was the stiff we drafted from Minnesota? John Thomas. He didn't even last more than a month if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 uhhhhh he implied JJ when in college, not when he is in NBA I know what he meant. Kind of why I inserted the phrase "players like Reddick kill you at the college level..." into the response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjakecity Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 The NFL does not condone this type of stuff...surely they would have found him if he did pull that kind of stunt and been correctly punished...nobody has a better steroids policy than the NFL...the only guys who do this stuff is fodder like Erik Ainge. Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but New England is one of the "glamour" teams in the NFL and more Pats fans identify with Wes Welker than any other player on their team. What makes a bigger story: Welker coming back on his own, Welker being out, or Welker being caught with dirty pee on his way back? Also, when the injury happened, it was so severe that it was many experts were all but convinced that he at best wouldn't be back until midway through the season. Seems a little suspicious that this many doctors would be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 What was the furthest the team got during his run? Are we really arguing that Reddick is a great player? Who cares how good he was in college? John Wallace says whats up i do not follow or care for nba at all so i only care about college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I have never been that excited for a pick, ever. I thought Wallace was such a steal and couldn't believe that kid fell that far after leading Cuse that far along. Then we traded him to Toronto for another pick and I thought we made the biggest mistake when he played well the next year. Then we resigned him. Then we traded him for Erick Strickland. Just too much of an up and down rollercoaster for a player who never did anything. I'm pretty sure I still have a John Wallace jersey packed away somewhere. It could've been worse... we could've been the team that had the best player in 'Cuse history who squandered his all-World talent by being a fat, lazy, drunken slob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I'm pretty sure I still have a John Wallace jersey packed away somewhere. It could've been worse... we could've been the team that had the best player in 'Cuse history who squandered his all-World talent by being a fat, lazy, drunken slob. DC could have been the best ever if wanted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but New England is one of the "glamour" teams in the NFL and more Pats fans identify with Wes Welker than any other player on their team. What makes a bigger story: Welker coming back on his own, Welker being out, or Welker being caught with dirty pee on his way back? Also, when the injury happened, it was so severe that it was many experts were all but convinced that he at best wouldn't be back until midway through the season. Seems a little suspicious that this many doctors would be wrong. How many Doctors actually examined Welker or were present during his knee surgery? Many seems like a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child please Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Rodney had a few leftovers for little Wes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 chrebet and welker both great ballplayers... could it be welker puttin up better #s cause he has Brady or he is just better? Tuf to tell... better #'s cause he has brady and moss.. he lead the league in a whole lot of nothing without them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 better #'s cause he has brady and moss.. he lead the league in a whole lot of nothing without them he also only started 3 games before going to new england so it's really comparing apples to oranges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 he also only started 3 games before going to new england so it's really comparing apples to oranges In 2006 he only started in two games, yet he led the team in receptions. Reason why BB traded for him was he felt he was the best offensive weapon on any of his AFCE rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Here we go. Wes Welker did not make Randy Moss. It's the other way around. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Hate the patriots but how can you not help rooting for welker? Was told he was too small, too slow and too short to play in the nfl and has only led the league in catches three yrs in a row. Destroys his knee and people say he's done since his entire game is predicated on quickness and quick cuts and only seven months later he is back. I laugh at my fellow jets fans who denigrate welker but idolize wayne chrebet. i love chrebet too but let's be real: wayne chrebet wishes he was a poor man's wes welker. Actually, a better time for you to start this thread would've been at 11:30pm on Monday, December 6th. How DO you negative rep somebody? Anyone? And for you to definitively say that Wes Welker is better (let alone WAY better, like you seem to indicate) that Wayne Chrebet is assinine. Completely different teams, different systems, different everything. What is your next post? "Adrian Murrell couldn't hold Danny Woodhead's jock"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Wes Welker is a douche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Actually, a better time for you to start this thread would've been at 11:30pm on Monday, December 6th. How DO you negative rep somebody? Anyone? so you're upset because i was months ahead of consensus opinion? yeah, that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 so you're upset because i was months ahead of consensus opinion? yeah, that makes sense. My fault, I should have looked at the timestamp. I thought this was a fresh post. I still think the comparison is dopey, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 LOL I don't know what's funny... The Pats offense has certainly been better, because Moss quit and they've changed their game plan, but Welker is having his worst year statistically since joining the Patriots. He has more TDs, but significantly less yards, first downs, his lowest YPC, and the least receptions by 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I don't know what's funny... The Pats offense has certainly been better, because Moss quit and they've changed their game plan, but Welker is having his worst year statistically since joining the Patriots. He has more TDs, but significantly less yards, first downs, his lowest YPC, and the least receptions by 25. You'd have to go back to Cotchery's 2007 season to find a Jets receiver with as many catches as Welker has had this season. His TD's in this, his down year, are the same number as Braylon Edwards' and his yardage is close. If Welker was a Jet, we'd canonize him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 You'd have to go back to Cotchery's 2007 season to find a Jets receiver with as many catches as Welker has had this season. His TD's in this, his down year, are the same number as Braylon Edwards' and his yardage is close. If Welker was a Jet, we'd canonize him. If Welker was a Jet, he'd suck. Brady vs. Sanchez, really? And, the point was that Moss definitely made Welker much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 If Welker was a Jet, he'd suck. Brady vs. Sanchez, really? And, the point was that Moss definitely made Welker much better. Actually, I think Welker is exactly what Sanchez is missing. True, Brady is a billion times better than Sanchez, but Welker is always open 7 yards away from the QB's face. I could complete 70 passes to Wes Welker. I don't want to parachute into the Moss conversation at this point. I think you dudes have gone over it hardcore these last few pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Actually, I think Welker is exactly what Sanchez is missing. True, Brady is a billion times better than Sanchez, but Welker is always open 7 yards away from the QB's face. I could complete 70 passes to Wes Welker. I don't want to parachute into the Moss conversation at this point. I think you dudes have gone over it hardcore these last few pages. I think a lot of that has to do with Brady as well. I'm not saying Welker's not good, I'm saying his production took a hit without moss, as many people expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Welker is a JAG and he's not near the same player without Moss. Every single one of us who made that claim is 100% right. When you start to compare a WR to Jerricho Cotchery...you just entered JAG zone. First off, the Pats offense is no better or worse without Moss. 2 of the 3 games they had with Moss, they scored 38pts. The one game they lost with Moss, to the Jets, they scored 14...who scored those TD's you ask? Moss and Welker. What's going to happen if the Pats go down early in a game and they dont have the big play threat at all on their team? Will they miss Randy...I think so This season Welker has zero 10 catch games, one 100 yard game, and only scored in 3 games without Moss. He's had his lowest statistical year since being with the Pats and he's pretty much a one trick pony. Nothing he does scares you. He's not a game changer, he's not a deep threat, he's a good little player that benefits from Tom Brady's dink and dunk mentality. There's easily 25 players in the league that could so the exact same thing. Hell, Danny Woodhead could do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 The Jets should let Welker get his. He's like the 7th guy on the Pats offense I'd worry about. He doesnt make big plays. The Jets will have to play abend but dont break type of defense like last Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hate the patriots but how can you not help rooting for welker? Was told he was too small, too slow and too short to play in the nfl and has only led the league in catches three yrs in a row. Destroys his knee and people say he's done since his entire game is predicated on quickness and quick cuts and only seven months later he is back. I laugh at my fellow jets fans who denigrate welker but idolize wayne chrebet. i love chrebet too but let's be real: wayne chrebet wishes he was a poor man's wes welker. You can in no way be a jet fan with what you said about Chrebet. Total douche thing to say, and totally untrue. Spygate and cheating year round has a great effect on getting average recievers open, (Welker) doesnt it? Its obvious your about 12 and never really watched Chrebet play. Welker couldnt tie Wayne's cleats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donboyO Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 You'd have to go back to Cotchery's 2007 season to find a Jets receiver with as many catches as Welker has had this season. His TD's in this, his down year, are the same number as Braylon Edwards' and his yardage is close. If Welker was a Jet, we'd canonize him. Jets already had a Welker type WR , his name was Wayne Chrebet and he had better hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 You'd have to go back to Cotchery's 2007 season to find a Jets receiver with as many catches as Welker has had this season. His TD's in this, his down year, are the same number as Braylon Edwards' and his yardage is close. If Welker was a Jet, we'd canonize him. If that entails shooting him with a cannon, I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 You can in no way be a jet fan with what you said about Chrebet. Total douche thing to say, and totally untrue. Spygate and cheating year round has a great effect on getting average recievers open, (Welker) doesnt it? Its obvious your about 12 and never really watched Chrebet play. Welker couldnt tie Wayne's cleats. ya because it's impossible to think that any player on another team is better than a jet and still be a jets fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 I don't know what's funny... The Pats offense has certainly been better, because Moss quit and they've changed their game plan, but Welker is having his worst year statistically since joining the Patriots. He has more TDs, but significantly less yards, first downs, his lowest YPC, and the least receptions by 25. re-read the first post in the thread. let's not forget that welker is coming back from a horrific injury after only 8 months rehab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 This JAG should shut his overrated mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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