ZachEY Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Drew Rosenhaus is still the NFL's most prominent agent. He's known as a tough negotiator and by fans, a dick... "We haven't had a drafted player or veteran hold out of training camp in six years," Rosenhaus said. "I can't guarantee that will continue with three first-round picks, but it's something we take a lot of pride in." Maybe we don't blame Revis here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I'm actually really surprised by that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 I'm actually really surprised by that... I was too. Now, who are the two biggest hold-outs this year? Then, go look at their agents for a surprise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Drew Rosenhaus is still the NFL's most prominent agent. He's known as a tough negotiator and by fans, a dick... Maybe we don't blame Revis here? At the end of the day, its his decision. Its all on Mevi$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 At the end of the day, its his decision. Its all on Mevi$. exactly right JiF...all the selfish prick needs to do is tell the scumbag shysters to "get it done" and he'll be playing football again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamont_jordan_rules Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I'm actually really surprised by that... ... + 1 ... ... he has long been one of, if not the, premier negotiating agents for players ... yet has not resorted to this tactic in 6 years (wonder how many had done it before that though ? ) ... someone has to give a realistic expectation to the player ... seeing what is beneficial to the team as well as the player ... and then moving the bar a "reasonable" or even "borderline unreasonable" distance towards the players side ... rather than promising the moon + all the stars too ... l_j_r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 At the end of the day, its his decision. Its all on Mevi$. That is true, it is Revis's decision. But, these players listen to their advisers. I doubt Revis made this call on his own. My bet, if the day the Mangold deal came down, Revis's agents said, 'We see the Jets reward hard work, and team first attitude, we think you should be in camp', that Revis would show up the next day. Call it what you will, but most of these guys aren't savvy enough to be making these decisions themselves. I believe they trust their agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 At the end of the day, its his decision. Its all on Mevi$. Don't discount the influence an agent has on a player. Kendall, Baker, Vincent Jackson, Revis...what do they all have in common? They've had contract issues on their then-current teams, and are all represented by the same people. Coincidence? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 ... + 1 ... ... he has long been one of, if not the, premier negotiating agents for players ... yet has not resorted to this tactic in 6 years (wonder how many had done it before that though ? ) ... someone has to give a realistic expectation to the player ... seeing what is beneficial to the team as well as the player ... and then moving the bar a "reasonable" or even "borderline unreasonable" distance towards the players side ... rather than promising the moon + all the stars too ... l_j_r I honestly believe that at least in some small way, Revis's agents feel they can't cave because of how it will make them look. The Jets will probably have to blink first, because the negative PR based on caving is significantly smaller that it will be to Team Revis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 exactly right JiF...all the selfish prick needs to do is tell the scumbag shysters to "get it done" and he'll be playing football again Not for nothing, but Revis' scumbag shyster agents are the same cocksuckers who represented Pete Kendall and Chriis Baker. I think part of this is their revenge for the Jets owning their asses on those deals. They finally got themselves a player who is worth the money so they are going to stick it to the Jets for all they can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Im in favor of whatever outcome wins this team the most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 Not for nothing, but Revis' scumbag shyster agents are the same cocksuckers who represented Pete Kendall and Chriis Baker. I think part of this is their revenge for the Jets owning their asses on those deals. They finally got themselves a player who is worth the money so they are going to stick it to the Jets for all they can get. As I eluded to above, and LJR points out, they also have the second big hold-out this year, Vincent Jackson. I don't know if it's a vendetta against the Jets, or maybe they just suck at their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 Im in favor of whatever outcome wins this team the most games. Anything about this hold-out helping the Jets win games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Im in favor of whatever outcome wins this team the most games. we ALL wanted him back Bit but he is the one not COMING-screw Darrelle Revis and his posse too. let him sit out and make our trade demands as unreasonable as his finacial demands are to the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 As I eluded to above, and LJR points out, they also have the second big hold-out this year, Vincent Jackson. I don't know if it's a vendetta against the Jets, or maybe they just suck at their jobs. I think that's just the way they are. Not very good at working with others on a middle ground solution. This sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I was too. Now, who are the two biggest hold-outs this year? Then, go look at their agents for a surprise! True...but one player actually has a case. His contract is up. And If I'm not mistaken, he's been playing for peanuts over the last couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 That is true, it is Revis's decision. But, these players listen to their advisers. I doubt Revis made this call on his own. My bet, if the day the Mangold deal came down, Revis's agents said, 'We see the Jets reward hard work, and team first attitude, we think you should be in camp', that Revis would show up the next day. Call it what you will, but most of these guys aren't savvy enough to be making these decisions themselves. I believe they trust their agents. He's clearly got some outside influences, agents, uncle, etc. But still he's a big boy, he can make his own decision...and should. Don't discount the influence an agent has on a player. Kendall, Baker, Vincent Jackson, Revis...what do they all have in common? They've had contract issues on their then-current teams, and are all represented by the same people. Coincidence? I don't think so. See above... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistalava Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I'm actually really surprised by that... Rosenhaus gets paid when his clients play and get paid. Goes to show you he is one pragmatic and smart prick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Vincent Jackson is entering his 6th NFL season, is still a RFA, and was never offered a deal longer than the 1-year RFA tender. Over those first 5 years he's made somewhere in the neighborhood of $6M total and right now the only contract offer on the table from San Diego is a 1-year deal for the league minimum, after which he is a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 The hardest negotiations for an agent isn't with the team. Its with his own client. I am willing to bet more than once Drew has had to take a very hard line with his own clients, even to the effect of "Look this is the best deal you are getting from the team and it is a fair deal. If you don't sign this contract right now, you will be holding out at least five days because you will need to find another agent." I can't get you a better deal than this and neither can any other agent. The other thing I am willing to bet has happened is Drew turning down clients. He isn't desperate he has a thriving business. If in the initial meeting an agent realizes that the prospective client has unreasonable expectations that can't be tempered, then a good agent doesn't take the business. Although Drew can be a dick. And he will push a team to the limit. I bet most teams don't really mind negotiating with him. They know he is going to demand and get as much as he can for his client. But if the team agrees to terms with Drew then they can be assured that Drew will get the player to sign the contract. And while Drew will want the most he can get for his client he won't insist on more than he can realistically get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 ... he has long been one of, if not the, premier negotiating agents for players ... yet has not resorted to this tactic in 6 years (wonder how many had done it before that though ? ) Pretty sure he was repping both McCardell and Mike McKenzie when they staged holdouts in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I'm a big believer in the idea that lacking a sense of humor is a serious warning sign when dealing with people. If you watch Rosenhaus on tv he's funny and can take a joke about himself. But this fiensod and schwartz pair, they seem like the exact kind of humorless creeps you need to stay away from in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Pretty sure he was repping both McCardell and Mike McKenzie when they staged holdouts in 2004. That would be six years ago right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 This sucks! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 . Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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