SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 As should all you kids out there! Good for him to pull the ol' Peyton Manning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangisGreen Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 As should all you kids out there! Good for him to pull the ol' Peyton Manning! Respectable move, but it will cost him money and if Harbaugh leaves will he produce at the same level next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 As should all you kids out there! Good for him to pull the ol' Peyton Manning! good move...kid wants to be a Dolphin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 good move...kid wants to be a Dolphin.... Pull the offer off the table and get them both next year. Just tank next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 As should all you kids out there! Good for him to pull the ol' Peyton Manning! Hahaha... agreed. Panthers are the new Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 good move...kid wants to be a Dolphin.... I think hes smarter than that. Why would any young player coming out of college used to winning want to be part of the Miami Dolphin organization? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 good move...kid wants to be a Dolphin.... Predicting another 1-15 season over there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 This could cost him ten$ of million$. Not only the new CBA, but he's no lock to be the consensus #1 in 2012, either. Look at Matt Leinart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 we'll probaly suck donkey kong schlong this next year and then snag Luck in the draft. I've waited this long whats another year getting made fun of for being a fins fan lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I know people bring up Lienhart, but this is a different situation. First, Luck is a better QB prospect than Leinhart Second, there's no Mario Williams in next year's draft Third, the 2 things that hurt Leinhart (poor measurables and being "Hollywood") won't come into play for Luck. The biggest issue is risk of injury. If he stays healthy and has a productive season he'll be No. 1 overall in 2012. As to the rookie cap, Luck comes from a football family. He's not looking to win the lottery. He wants to be an NFL QB. Interning for another yr may be best for his longterm prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The real question now is, who does Carolina take with the first pick now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 This could cost him ten$ of million$. Not only the new CBA, but he's no lock to be the consensus #1 in 2012, either. Look at Matt Leinart. Leinart went back to school to take a dance class. Luck wants to graduate from Stanford. I think there's a good chance that he he keeps his top ranking. There's still ways he can improve anyway. Maybe Harbaugh says f*ck for the NFL another year too...That'd be better than this Miami stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 we'll probaly suck donkey kong schlong this next year and then snag Luck in the draft. I've waited this long whats another year getting made fun of for being a fins fan lol. Get used to that. I dont see the Dolphins getting better anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 This could cost him ten$ of million$. Not only the new CBA, but he's no lock to be the consensus #1 in 2012, either. Look at Matt Leinart. Yeah, this could be a very bad decision from a strictly financial standpoint. However, you have to imagine that he and/or his advisers are well aware of those possibilities. While this could come back to bite him in the a$$, it wouldn't necessarily compare it to Leinart. Leinart's decision to stay is part of what actually hurt him the following year. He was all but done with school and decided to stay and take nonsense classes just so he could still be the campus celebrity, which began a lot of knocks about his maturity level. Hardly the case here with Luck. That said, it doesn't mean his stock won't be hurt over the next year. Either way, it's certainly a ballsy decision by Luck, but if he really feels its the best one for him then good for him, because clearly there's a lot more downside than upside in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Get used to that. I dont see the Dolphins getting better anytime soon. yea let me give up all hope cause visajets says were gonna stink. "AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" TEH WOOF IS BACK!!! and it's hungry as **** cause it barely got feed this year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I know people bring up Lienhart, but this is a different situation. First, Luck is a better QB prospect than Leinhart Second, there's no Mario Williams in next year's draft Third, the 2 things that hurt Leinhart (poor measurables and being "Hollywood") won't come into play for Luck. The biggest issue is risk of injury. If he stays healthy and has a productive season he'll be No. 1 overall in 2012. As to the rookie cap, Luck comes from a football family. He's not looking to win the lottery. He wants to be an NFL QB. Interning for another yr may be best for his longterm prospects. I wonder if Fairley stays if he'll become a Williams like prospect? Dont know. Luck comes from money and he goes to Stanford. If injury were to happen, he's going to be just fine in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Leinart went back to school to take a dance class. Luck wants to graduate from Stanford. I think there's a good chance that he he keeps his top ranking. There's still ways he can improve anyway. Maybe Harbaugh says f*ck for the NFL another year too...That'd be better than this Miami stuff. Why not? Harbaugh, with another successful year at Stanford would still have as many job offers as he does now and if he goes to a horrible team he stands the possibility of drafting Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 yea let me give up all hope cause visajets says were gonna stink. "AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" TEH WOOF IS BACK!!! and it's hungry as **** cause it barely got feed this year.... WISDOM SON WISDOM LISTEN TO ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Why not? Harbaugh, with another successful year at Stanford would still have as many job offers as he does now and if he goes to a horrible team he stands the possibility of drafting Luck. Exactly...Harbaugh is fairly well established as a HC prospect and has done his share of interviews in the NFL...I hope he's just playing the game right now. JiF, Fairley is not going to hit Williams status if he stayed. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a guy who falls for character reasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Luck was like, "Who picks first, the Carolina Panthers? Aw hell, I'm staying in school." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 There's a huge difference between wanting to slay season in SoCal and wanting a degree from Stanford University. Really. Swear to God they're not the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 There's a huge difference between wanting to slay season in SoCal and wanting a degree from Stanford University. Really. Swear to God they're not the same thing. Haha! Listen, I used Leinart as the obvious example. But anything can happen in a year. He's all but guaranteed the #1 spot and being the highest paid NFL rookie ever if he comes out now. He waits a year, and maybe not only is there a new CBA, but he's no longer the consensus #1 pick. Maybe Harbaugh leaves and he's not nearly as productive. Maybe he gets hurt. sh*t happens. It's a huge risk if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Haha! Listen, I used Leinart as the obvious example. But anything can happen in a year. He's all but guaranteed the #1 spot and being the highest paid NFL rookie ever if he comes out now. He waits a year, and maybe not only is there a new CBA, but he's no longer the consensus #1 pick. Maybe Harbaugh leaves and he's not nearly as productive. Maybe he gets hurt. sh*t happens. It's a huge risk if you ask me. That's the only negative I can see to his decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 That's the only negative I can see to his decision. +1 You'd think a kid staying to finish up school would be more praised...more athletes should do that but it's not easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 +1 You'd think a kid staying to finish up school would be more praised...more athletes should do that but it's not easy. Athletes should always try to get more money. And when they do we don't complain around here, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Haha! Listen, I used Leinart as the obvious example. But anything can happen in a year. He's all but guaranteed the #1 spot and being the highest paid NFL rookie ever if he comes out now. He waits a year, and maybe not only is there a new CBA, but he's no longer the consensus #1 pick. Maybe Harbaugh leaves and he's not nearly as productive. Maybe he gets hurt. sh*t happens. It's a huge risk if you ask me. sh*t does happen. But in the event that it does happen, kid has a design degree from friggin Stanford dude. I still remember in the 90's when Tim Duncan was the projected #1 overall for 3 years running, and people said he was insane the 2 times he went back. Turned out years later that everyone learned that his mother made Duncan and all his siblings promise her on her deathbed that they'd all get degrees. For some kids, it's just that important. Can't hate on the kid at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Athletes should always try to get more money. And when they do we don't complain around here, right? I'd never dream of such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Can't hate on the kid at all. I'm not hating on him, I'm not judging him. If I were to judge him, I'd probably say that what he's doing is admirable. Just stating that he's almost certainly costing himself a good portion of money (new CBA), and potentially a lifetime of security (injury, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 weird the big issue no one is talking about is rookie cap. I can't believe the owners will let this CBA go without trying to do something about the top 10 picks deals this kid lost a lot of money today and no guarantee he winds up in a better situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 weird the big issue no one is talking about is rookie cap. I can't believe the owners will let this CBA go without trying to do something about the top 10 picks deals this kid lost a lot of money today and no guarantee he winds up in a better situation Did you even read the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan122 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 weird the big issue no one is talking about is rookie cap. I can't believe the owners will let this CBA go without trying to do something about the top 10 picks deals this kid lost a lot of money today and no guarantee he winds up in a better situation I may be mistaken , but doesn't the current CBA expire after THIS season , so wouldn't any potenti draft pick salaries fall under the new CBA ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 good move...kid wants to be a Dolphin.... To be honest being a ******* pinata is better than being a Carolina Panther. Smart kid, smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I'm not hating on him, I'm not judging him. If I were to judge him, I'd probably say that what he's doing is admirable. Just stating that he's almost certainly costing himself a good portion of money (new CBA), and potentially a lifetime of security (injury, etc.). I think that rookie cap is the only thing that's going to be almost universally embraced in the new deal. The only people who support not keeping rookie salaries down are the agents. Otherwise, the Player's Union and the owners are going to jerk each other off at the idea of putting more money back into the pool to pay the big money ONLY to players who have proven themselves. It will keep older vets employed and it will keep the egg off of owner's faces when they draft a Jamarcus Russell or a Gholston. Who, other than the agents, is going to fight taking $50 mil guarantees away from guys who never took an NFL snap and giving it back to everyone else? Luck can go out and have the best season ever by a collgian and may still have halved his initial contract figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donboyO Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I think that rookie cap is the only thing that's going to be almost universally embraced in the new deal. The only people who support not keeping rookie salaries down are the agents. Otherwise, the Player's Union and the owners are going to jerk each other off at the idea of putting more money back into the pool to pay the big money ONLY to players who have proven themselves. It will keep older vets employed and it will keep the egg off of owner's faces when they draft a Jamarcus Russell or a Gholston. Who, other than the agents, is going to fight taking $50 mil guarantees away from guys who never took an NFL snap and giving it back to everyone else? Luck can go out and have the best season ever by a collgian and may still have halved his initial contract figures. If I'm the Players I do not give up rookie cap, rookie salaries drives up vets pay during FA, I'm also not so sure the owners will spread the excess $$ to vets anyway. I think they want to keep it their pockets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 The real question now is, who does Carolina take with the first pick now?? Green and pray Clausen gets better with a future #1 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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