Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 or smart, high character kid who happens to be huge plays football for a career. enjoys stanford, gets drafted turns out the dolphins are a cesspool of scumbags, coached by a clueless dolt. he doesn't fit in. they try to mold him into a tough guy with psychological abuse oops we'll find what's up if the document he's preparing for the NFL gets released or leaked incognito wasn't suspended by the dolphins for nothing I bet this get ugly Yeah that sounds very likely. You sound like a real life Lionel Hutz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 ok matlock, why did the dolphins suspend richie jr ? uhh they had no choice. He'll eventually be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yeah that sounds very likely. You sound like a real life Lionel Hutz. lol you convinced me. he's a scheming manipulative money grabber faking it all that's the likely story lol so matlock, why did the dolphins suspend incognito so quickly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You dont exactly have to be Matlock to read between the lines of someone setting up a lawsuit. Martin's clearly been outed as a phony: Not everyone is as naturally brilliant or intuitive as you. I lean more towards not knowing exactly what's going on with somebody else's mental health, but that's just my narrow minded view. I lack your insight so I appreciate you taking the time to clear this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 lol you convinced me. he's a scheming manipulative money grabber faking it all that's the likely story lol so matlock, why did the dolphins suspend incognito so quickly ? Because there's a drunk voicemail of him saying the N word to a guy he thought was his friend. It's a PR thing, nothing more. He'll be back, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Not everyone is as naturally brilliant or intuitive as you. I lean more towards not knowing exactly what's going on with somebody else's mental health, but that's just my narrow minded view. I lack your insight so I appreciate you taking the time to clear this up. So you just blame everything on the other guy instead?I'm offering my take on what's going on, its my opinion-ignore it if it bothers you. Your opinion just seems to be Incognito's an a$$hole and Martins the victim. if there turns outto be some massive cover up and Joe Philbin is part of the Mexican cartel, I'll gladly come about face. Spotting ambulance chasers isnt that difficult though. The fact you're reading my posts while breathing through a brown paper bag is great though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Martin his jeopardizing his NFL career to lie about the harassment and file a suit that'll probably go nowhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Because there's a drunk voicemail of him saying the N word to a guy he thought was his friend. It's a PR thing, nothing more. He'll be back, My best friends always follow up their drunk voicemail rants with a demand for thousands of dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Dude was in the hospital for an hour basically. Surprisingly leaves with his parents. Yeah, ok. https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 My best friends always follow up their drunk voicemail rants with a demand for thousands of dollars. Do you live in the NE? People make a living out of lawsuits around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Martin his jeopardizing his NFL career to lie about the harassment and file a suit that'll probably go nowhere? Martin quit the NFL the second he left the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Because there's a drunk voicemail of him saying the N word to a guy he thought was his friend. It's a PR thing, nothing more. He'll be back, yeah, they are in a race for the wildcard and just lost a LT, good idea to bench the LG as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 yeah, they are in a race for the wildcard and just lost a LT, good idea to bench the LG as well. They didnt bench him they suspended him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 They didnt bench him they suspended him. no sh*t. point is he isn't playing monday night and it's not just for PR. this goes up the ladder, they offered him as a sacrifice, not to make it look good, but to cover their asses which means there is a reason to cover their asses, he's not faking anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 no sh*t. point is he isn't playing monday night and it's not just for PR. this goes up the ladder, they offered him as a sacrifice, not to make it look good, but to cover their asses which means there is a reason to cover their asses, he's not faking anything If he's not faking anything then there shouldn't be a lawsuit either. We will see. Me thinks they see those dollar signs....as Ricky Williams said earlier"I didnt need a scapegoat to quit football, I just did it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter Yes, as opposed to your brilliant insight here. Why don't you share? Or are we just going to pretend Martin wasn't laughing about the voicemails that's now apparently the smoking gun. Because Richie is a mean guy and I dont like dumb big mean guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yes, as opposed to your brilliant insight here. Why don't you share? Or are we just going to pretend Martin wasn't laughing about the voicemails that's now apparently the smoking gun. Because Richie is a mean guy and I dont like dumb big mean guys. You've already covered everything with your psychological profile of Jonathan Martin. This is a huge conspiracy to bring down an otherwise great human human being in Richie Incognito. Martin clearly faked having a mental breakdown and that 15k I guess was a gift to a dear friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You've already covered everything with your psychological profile of Jonathan Martin. This is a huge conspiracy to bring down an otherwise great human human being in Richie Incognito. Martin clearly faked having a mental breakdown and that 15k I guess was a gift to a dear friend Lol. Jesus you're obtuse...don't care one way or the other about Richie but it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see he's being scapegoated here. But I guess you could be an ambulance chaser yourself...if the shoe fits. Lars is still talking about this magical document. Maybe you can join in on the suit. Richie is obviously causing you duress as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 If he's not faking anything then there shouldn't be a lawsuit either. lol good point matlock we are all assuming there will be a lawsuit. maybe he just wants incognito disemboweled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 That's what it looks like to me. -Realizes he doesnt want to play football anymore, doesnt belong in an NFL locker room -Loses his starting LT spot -waits for the next prank to stage a breakdown -checks into hospital -Incognito and Martin exchange texts where Incognito asks if he's ok -Dolphins intend to out him on non football injury list putting his paycheck in jeopardy -Flips the script, release Incognito voicemail transcript and alleges bullying & harassment Dude. Extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Lol. Jesus you're obtuse...don't care one way or the other about Richie but it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see he's being scapegoated here. But I guess you could be an ambulance chaser yourself...if the shoe fits. Lars is still talking about this magical document. Maybe you can join in on the suit. Richie is obviously causing you duress as well. the magical document is on the espn scrawl go see for yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Dude. Extreme. I'm entitled to my opinion. I guess nowadays...maybe I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I'm entitled to my opinion. I guess nowadays...maybe I'm not. And T0mShane reserves the right to call that opinion "extreme". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I'm entitled to my opinion. I guess nowadays...maybe I'm not. This thread will be Exhibit A in the massive lawsuit we're all prepping against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 This thread will be Exhibit A in the massive lawsuit we're all prepping against you. You'll still be in law school though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 And T0mShane reserves the right to call that opinion "extreme". okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You'll still be in law school though. My parents are both lawyers. They'll take it pro bono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 My parents are both lawyers. They'll take it pro bono. #silverspooned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I'm entitled to my opinion. I guess nowadays...maybe I'm not. Of course you are. I just think you're taking it a wee bit far. What's so implausible about a soft kid getting fed up with a historically imbalanced dude? Obviously, there was no one on the team he could appeal to, so he bailed. What's he going to score in a civil suit if he doesn't play anymore? A million bucks? He's leaving potentially $30 mil in lifetime earnings on the table if he quits altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Of course you are. I just think you're taking it a wee bit far. What's so implausible about a soft kid getting fed up with a historically imbalanced dude? Obviously, there was no one on the team he could appeal to, so he bailed. What's he going to score in a civil suit if he doesn't play anymore? A million bucks? He's leaving potentially $30 mil in lifetime earnings on the table if he quits altogether. It's not implausibile at all. But look at Hartline's interview today. Tyson Clabo's comments. These guys dont strike me as imbalanced dudes. Hartline certainly is an outcast in his own right within a locker room because of the position he plays- he would have known if something was out of bounds. These guys went on the record today for something they believed in- i'll take the word of many over the guy we havent even heard from yet. Everyone's drawing their own conclusions...apparently mine arent exactly kosher on JN lol. With how these guys have reacted(basically blindsided) I lean more towards Martin being a phony more so than a guy who suddenly had a mental breakdown that caused him to check into hospital only to be flow home by his big wig lawyer rents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Dude. Extreme. The power point version of that is coming soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 With how these guys have reacted(basically blindsided) I lean more towards Martin being a phony more so than a guy who suddenly had a mental breakdown that caused him to check into hospital only to be flow home by his big wig lawyer rents. Wouldn't they be equally blindsided by Martin actually having a sudden emotional breakdown as they would by Martin faking a sudden emotional breakdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Wouldn't they be equally blindsided by Martin actually having a sudden emotional breakdown as they would by Martin faking a sudden emotional breakdown? If theyre all blindsided by him having a real breakdown how is Incognito the villain then? Because he left a stupid drunk voicemail and used a bad word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 If theyre all blindsided by him having a real breakdown how is Incognito the villain then? Because he left a stupid drunk voicemail and used a bad word? Yes, because the "bad word" in question is "n***er." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 If theyre all blindsided by him having a real breakdown how is Incognito the villain then? Because he left a stupid drunk voicemail and used a bad word? Yes, seeing as he's the primary cause. No one has an emotional breakdown all of a sudden. He was obviously taking some form of abuse, perceived or otherwise, for some time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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