sirlancemehlot Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 2009 Draft: Mark Sanchez is the only player still on this roster from that draft. 2010 Draft: 2nd Rounder...Vlad Ducasse, 4th Rounder...J. McKnight, 5th Rounder...J. Connor 2011 Draft: highest offensive draft pick taken?...4th rounder Bilal Powell 2012 Draft: top two offensive draft picks? 2nd rounder Steven Hill, sixth rounder Terrance Ganaway (RB) 2013 Draft: two first rounders are defensive players, Second Rounder is Geno Smith of the few offensive lineman taken in the past 5 drafts, only two (Winters and Ducasse) remain on the team Defensive players drafted in the first three rounds include: Kyle Wilson, Dee Milliner, Antonio Cromartie (traded for a second Rd pick), Mohammed Wilkerson, Kenrick Ellis, Quinton Coples, Sheldon Richardson, Demario Davis Total number of offensive coordinators in last five years: 3. Schottenheimer, Sporano, Morninweg Ooof. The Rex era has not been kind to NY Jets offensive football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 if we are gonna talk about it, guys like Ivory and Holmes have to be considered i.e. trades that they made using draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 BOYITELLYA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 if we are gonna talk about it, guys like Ivory and Holmes have to be considered i.e. trades that they made using draft picks. OK. Ivory injured most of hios career as a jet. Holmes injured the last season and a half as a jet. HOWEVER. The defensive players taken that I listed above were taken with picks (or trades for picks) in the first three rounds. Top three. Holmes was a fifth rounder and Ivory was a fourth. Yayy! I Win!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Hey, if you want to field the modern Steel Curtain defense, you gotta pay the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Rex's fault. Not the GM. He's the reason Geno sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 Rex's fault. Not the GM. He's the reason Geno sucks. He's the reason the offense sucks. Geno and Sanchez and Ducasse and Hill all suck without any help from Rex. Because he can't help them. Never learned how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Go back to 08 and there's only one remnant of the 08/09/10 drafts on the roster - and he never knows where the football is and sucks donkey balls. What should be the core of today's team is virtually non-existent due to abysmal drafts by Trader Mike with some input from Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 He's the reason the offense sucks. Geno and Sanchez and Ducasse and Hill all suck without any help from Rex. Because he can't help them. Never learned how. None of the coaches can. Amazing. Rex's fault they can't help though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 It is on the GM to pick the players. otherwise Tannenbaum would still be here and Rex wouldnt. Someone deserves credit for the two recent AFC Championship games. As a side note the Patriots, and Ravens have picked less offensive players in the first three rounds since 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 last years draft had 2 D players and 6 O players is getting better right? hope next year is more of the same with maybe a WR in the 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 2009 Draft: Mark Sanchez is the only player still on this roster from that draft. 2010 Draft: 2nd Rounder...Vlad Ducasse, 4th Rounder...J. McKnight, 5th Rounder...J. Connor 2011 Draft: highest offensive draft pick taken?...4th rounder Bilal Powell 2012 Draft: top two offensive draft picks? 2nd rounder Steven Hill, sixth rounder Terrance Ganaway (RB) 2013 Draft: two first rounders are defensive players, Second Rounder is Geno Smith of the few offensive lineman taken in the past 5 drafts, only two (Winters and Ducasse) remain on the team Defensive players drafted in the first three rounds include: Kyle Wilson, Dee Milliner, Antonio Cromartie (traded for a second Rd pick), Mohammed Wilkerson, Kenrick Ellis, Quinton Coples, Sheldon Richardson, Demario Davis Total number of offensive coordinators in last five years: 3. Schottenheimer, Sporano, Morninweg Ooof. The Rex era has not been kind to NY Jets offensive football. Isn't Campbell still on the team? Along with Abdoushi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 2009 Draft: Mark Sanchez is the only player still on this roster from that draft. 2010 Draft: 2nd Rounder...Vlad Ducasse, 4th Rounder...J. McKnight, 5th Rounder...J. Connor 2011 Draft: highest offensive draft pick taken?...4th rounder Bilal Powell 2012 Draft: top two offensive draft picks? 2nd rounder Steven Hill, sixth rounder Terrance Ganaway (RB) 2013 Draft: two first rounders are defensive players, Second Rounder is Geno Smith of the few offensive lineman taken in the past 5 drafts, only two (Winters and Ducasse) remain on the team Defensive players drafted in the first three rounds include: Kyle Wilson, Dee Milliner, Antonio Cromartie (traded for a second Rd pick), Mohammed Wilkerson, Kenrick Ellis, Quinton Coples, Sheldon Richardson, Demario Davis Total number of offensive coordinators in last five years: 3. Schottenheimer, Sporano, Morninweg Ooof. The Rex era has not been kind to NY Jets offensive football. Truth is you could stop right here. Personally I'm amazed how well Rex has done with what he had to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Truth is you could stop right here. Personally I'm amazed how well Rex has done with what he had to work with. How many of those drafts did you go into saying: OK, this is the year we are going to DRAFT OFFENSE? for me almost all of them and last year was a slam dunk for me thinking, finally, we are going to draft offense, and I predicted Tavon Austin and Tyler Eiferts. Then I said OK, we drafted a D-guy at 9, but at 13 we are definitely taking offense now. NOPE another D-guy (who turned out great). So, as long as we have this Coach, I guess I am resigned to watching more outside Lb's and D-backs taken early this MAY, and then sprinkle in a few late round "skill" players passed over by 31 other teams. Oh Joy. And now the, "Rex doesnt draft, the GM drafts" responses will be flying at this post so I am ready. Have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 BUT WE CAN STOP THE RUN!! WE CAN STOP THE RUNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacked4JetsFB Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 BUT WE CAN STOP THE RUN!! WE CAN STOP THE RUNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!! Parade on Monday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacked4JetsFB Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Truth is you could stop right here. Personally I'm amazed how well Rex has done with what he had to work with. Why? This is the exact type of team Rex wanted. I don't think he completely chose the players, but he definitely set the direction for the team when he got here, he wanted a top flight defense and a strong running game. He never gave two sh*ts about the passing game, so he obviously thought he could win the way the team is constructed. This team is pretty much a direct reflection of the team Rex set out to build 5 years ago when he came on board, minus Revis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Why? This is the exact type of team Rex wanted. I don't think he completely chose the players, but he definitely set the direction for the team when he got here, he wanted a top flight defense and a strong running game. He never gave two sh*ts about the passing game, so he obviously thought he could win the way the team is constructed. This team is pretty much a direct reflection of the team Rex set out to build 5 years ago when he came on board, minus Revis. But what if he had Peyton Manning? I'll tell you what: ALL THE TITLES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacked4JetsFB Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 But what if he had Peyton Manning? I'll tell you what: ALL THE TITLES! #rexstentionforasmanyyearsasittakestogetabradyormanning I feel so gay doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 the issue was more building for now instead of a future. I know GM's need to win now or some other guy will reap the reward, but trading picks to move up bites you in the ass eventually if the QB you trade up for turns out to be dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 It is on the GM to pick the players. otherwise Tannenbaum would still be here and Rex wouldnt. Someone deserves credit for the two recent AFC Championship games. As a side note the Patriots, and Ravens have picked less offensive players in the first three rounds since 2009. The 2009 teams had holdovers from the previous regimes drafts. Including two 1st round Olineman in D brick and Mangold. Agreed tanny was too soft to GM the drafts. Basically his picks reflected the HC he was working with, while the trades and rentals were all his own. As for the Pats and Ravens, they have franchise QBs . And if you notice they aren't exactly offensive juggernauts this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 Isn't Campbell still on the team? Along with Abdoushi? Yes that's correct. They just aren't activated much. Non contributors. That's kind of splitting hairs though. Still you are right in pointing that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 the reason why this offense stinks so badly, right now, is because other teams are blitzing and the QB isn't beating the blitz. it's that simple. they will send 5, 6, 7 or even 8 rushers and the QB needs to throw it QUICK and ACCURATE. that's life in the NFL if you can't beat the blitz you will get blitzed all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 the reason why this offense stinks so badly, right now, is because other teams are blitzing and the QB isn't beating the blitz. it's that simple. they will send 5, 6, 7 or even 8 rushers and the QB needs to throw it QUICK and ACCURATE. that's life in the NFL if you can't beat the blitz you will get blitzed all day. Yeah, ok, great. It's also because the only offensive players from Tannenbaum's last five drafts still on the roster are Sanchez, Ducasse, Powell, Kerley, and Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I'll save us both the time: Sanchez is better than DUMBZIK's handpicked QB, Ducasse put up 29 on the bench, and Hill was on pace for a 1,000-yard season before Geno personally concussed him with malice aforethought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 2009 Draft: Mark Sanchez is the only player still on this roster from that draft. 2010 Draft: 2nd Rounder...Vlad Ducasse, 4th Rounder...J. McKnight, 5th Rounder...J. Connor 2011 Draft: highest offensive draft pick taken?...4th rounder Bilal Powell 2012 Draft: top two offensive draft picks? 2nd rounder Steven Hill, sixth rounder Terrance Ganaway (RB) 2013 Draft: two first rounders are defensive players, Second Rounder is Geno Smith of the few offensive lineman taken in the past 5 drafts, only two (Winters and Ducasse) remain on the team Defensive players drafted in the first three rounds include: Kyle Wilson, Dee Milliner, Antonio Cromartie (traded for a second Rd pick), Mohammed Wilkerson, Kenrick Ellis, Quinton Coples, Sheldon Richardson, Demario Davis Total number of offensive coordinators in last five years: 3. Schottenheimer, Sporano, Morninweg Ooof. The Rex era has not been kind to NY Jets offensive football. Are you the one that's always complaining about how we don't invest enough draft picks into the offensive line? LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I dont know what other teams drafts look like in 09, 19, 11, 12, and 13 but looking at this list, over the past 5 years, these drafts have to rank at or near the bottom for drafts over this 5 year stretch. As I look at it right now, you have 5 years of drafts with ZERO, NADA, NONE, ZILCH pro-bowlers. Yeah, I know, Wilkerson, Richardson, will go to Hawaii, some day, BUT as of right now NO PRO-BOWLERS in 5 years of drafts. Is this really the case or am I missing something? AND can any other team in the NFL over the past 5 years make this dubious claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I know one thing Rex is the best in the NFL at. Can anyone Guess ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 i could see this offense being nasty in 1 year with jay cutler and using a 1st or 2nd on a WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 if only we had a Quarterback... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I know one thing Rex is the best in the NFL at. Can anyone Guess ? Engendering unwarranted sentiment from middle-aged men who had difficult relationships with their own fathers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I know one thing Rex is the best in the NFL at. Can anyone Guess ? I'll take a couple stabs: 1. Getting Offensive Coordinators fired 2. Drafting Qbs that consistently put up the lowest TQBR's in the NFL 3. Losing the most games after the BYE I am not trying to be funny here, these I believe are all valid guesses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Engendering unwarranted sentiment from middle-aged men who had difficult relationships with their own fathers? Now thats hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 Are you the one that's always complaining about how we don't invest enough draft picks into the offensive line? LOL. Yes. That's absolutely me. Everyone wants to argue "but we went to two championship games!!...we must have done something right!" We did do something right. Mangold, ferguson, Damien woody, Alan faneca, Moore, with Hunter as a backup. We ran very well and protected our young QB. subtract Faneca and add Ducasse. Subtract Woody and add Howard. subtract Moore and add Colon. No running game and bad QB play. Apparently the trenches only matter on defense. Where we drafted Coples, Wilkerson, Ellis, Richardson. but haven't added a decent Olineman in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Yes. That's absolutely me. Everyone wants to argue "but we went to two championship games!!...we must have done something right!" We did do something right. Mangold, ferguson, Damien woody, Alan faneca, Moore, with Hunter as a backup. We ran very well and protected our young QB. subtract Faneca and add Ducasse. Subtract Woody and add Howard. subtract Moore and add Colon. No running game and bad QB play. Apparently the trenches only matter on defense. Where we drafted Coples, Wilkerson, Ellis, Richardson. but haven't added a decent Olineman in years. Very Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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