Jetsfan80 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Anyone of interest? [NOTE: 3 years of data used, when available] 1. Josh McCown (UFA): 31.7% * 2013 data only.... - 40.6 % in 2011 (under 99 throws) 2. Jason Campbell (under contract): 9.8 % * 2011 and 2013 data used.... - 50.2 % in 2012 (under 99 throws). 3. Matt Schaub (under contract): 7.3 % 4. Matt Hasselbeck (under contract): 6.9 % * 2011 and 2012 data used....Has only thrown 8 passes in '13 5. Jay Cutler (UFA): - 2.8 % 6. Michael Vick (UFA): - 3.4 % 7. Ryan Fitzpatrick (under contract): - 5.7 % 8. Kellen Clemens (UFA): - 11.8 % * 2011 and 2013 data used....Not a significant number of throws in 2012 9. Kirk Cousins (under contract): - 13.4 % * Under 99 throws in both '12 and '13 10. Chad Henne (UFA): - 14.7 % 11. Matt Cassel (UFA): - 15.7% 12. Christian Ponder (under contract): - 16.9 % 13. Josh Freeman (UFA): - 19.0 % 14. Matt Flynn (UFA): - 26.1 % 15. Brandon Weeden (under contract): - 27.7 % 16. Terrelle Pryor (under contract): - 41.5 % * - 9.1 % in '12, under 99 throws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 so the 2 guys with enough of a sample size and a positive rating are under contract cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 If Bevell, Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 so the 2 guys with enough of a sample size and a positive rating are under contract cool Schaub is due to make $14.5M next season, $17M in 2015, and $19M in 2016. That almost rivals Sanchez's contract extension for stupidity. That being said, I think Schaub has value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 If Bevell, Vick. You support hiring Darrell Bevell even though you think the Jets will sign Vick? Mind-boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 You support hiring Darrell Bevell even though you think the Jets will sign Vick? Mind-boggling. Because I think you can keep Mornhinweg if you hire Bevell, and Mornhinweg likes Vick. Vick assumes the Garrard mentor role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 Because I think you can keep Mornhinweg if you hire Bevell, and Mornhinweg likes Vick. Vick assumes the Garrard mentor role. Michael Vick would make a horrible mentor. If you're bringing him in, you're bringing him in to start. Especially for the kind of coin he'll command even at his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Michael Vick would make a horrible mentor. If you're bringing him in, you're bringing him in to start. Especially for the kind of coin he'll command even at his age. Vick hasn't made a peep about not starting in Philly and has supposedly been a great help to Foles. Who, exactly, is going to give Vick a starting job and "coin"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 Vick hasn't made a peep about not starting in Philly and has supposedly been a great help to Foles. Who, exactly, is going to give Vick a starting job and "coin"? I could see Jacksonville handing him a monster deal. That city is soulless. See: JiF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 if vick is our qb i stop rooting for the jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I could see Jacksonville handing him a monster deal. That city is soulless. See: JiF. I dont think a monster deal, as I believe they want to draft a QB, so I could see a 1 year deal, but not a monster, long term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 What's Garrard's DVOA for the last three years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 if vick is our qb i stop rooting for the jets Don't worry! Theres no way they give up on Geno so you're safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 What's Garrard's DVOA for the last three years? The same as yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 You support hiring Darrell Bevell even though you think the Jets will sign Vick? Mind-boggling. Vick is a good idea without Bevell. Boy lemme tell ya, this guy's probably the greatest QB athlete of all time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Schaub is due to make $14.5M next season, $17M in 2015, and $19M in 2016. That almost rivals Sanchez's contract extension for stupidity. That being said, I think Schaub has value. Then you don't watch much of the Texans, Matt Schaub is a worse QB than Mark Sanchez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Schaub is due to make $14.5M next season, $17M in 2015, and $19M in 2016. That almost rivals Sanchez's contract extension for stupidity. That being said, I think Schaub has value. schaub makes pennington look like favre. he is the checkdown king if he can't make it work with andre 3000 and daniels and foster, do not want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 like hasselbeck for a year or two and draft another QB oh hell I DONT KNOW ANY MORE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Draft McCarron, and let Bevell mold him into the next Elvis Grbac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Draft McCarron, and let Bevell mold him into the next Elvis Grbac. Not a terrible thought, but Grbac had a much stronger arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Because I think you can keep Mornhinweg if you hire Bevell, and Mornhinweg likes Vick. Vick assumes the Garrard mentor role. I can't think of a better mentor personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Looking at that list I didn't see but one or two QB's the Jets should make a pitch for, Cutler - who won't see free agency - and Cousins who I hope the Jets make a MAJOR run at. I would be a lot happier with the Jets QB situation with Smith having to compete with Cousins for the job. Also, I hope the Jets keep Matt Simms and give him a TRUE SHOT at the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I know I'm going to get beat up for this, but I would bring in Josh Freeman. I really liked the kid in the 09 draft, but the Jets traded up for Sanchez. In 09 freeman had a rookie like year, In 2010 I said "OH crap, the Jets missed out on another great QB" He looked like he was going to be a stud. 62% completion , 3,451 yards, 25 TD's 6 interceptions, He really looked like he was going to be a good one. 2011 not so good, but not horrible. The Bucs were a bad team, he ha 16 TD's and 22 pics, but still was 62% completion In 2012 he had a bounce back season and looked very good again. 4,065 yards, 27 TD's 17 picks. playing for the biggest A hole in the NFL 2013 has been a disaster for him. IMO the HC got to him and the kid fell apart. The leaked "failed drug test" Then the info was released that he had some kind of personality disorder, and released. Picked up by the Vikes, and IMO unwisely started against the Giants I think with very lil preparation, was horrible, received a concussion, and forgotten about. I don't know what's going on with this personality disorder thing, but the kid really doesn't have bad #'s over his career. Think he is going to be very cheap, and well worth taking a flyer on to compete against Smith next year in camp. He'll be motivated with a full camp in the system knowing his career is on the line. If he sucks, oh well. IMO he has a very high upside in the right situation, and the right price making it feasible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Looking at that list I didn't see but one or two QB's the Jets should make a pitch for, Cutler - who won't see free agency - and Cousins who I hope the Jets make a MAJOR run at. I would be a lot happier with the Jets QB situation with Smith having to compete with Cousins for the job. Also, I hope the Jets keep Matt Simms and give him a TRUE SHOT at the job. Smith has more TD's in one one season than Kirk Cousins has in 2 and that's your answer LOL. It figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Smith has more TD's in one one season than Kirk Cousins has in 2 and that's your answer LOL. It figures So did Mark Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Smith has more TD's in one one season than Kirk Cousins has in 2 and that's your answer LOL. It figures can you give me the INT count over the same time period? Kthx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I'd bring in Cassell out of that group. Schaub throws like a girl. Vick would be intriguing...wont stay healthy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I know I'm going to get beat up for this, but I would bring in Josh Freeman. I really liked the kid in the 09 draft, but the Jets traded up for Sanchez. In 09 freeman had a rookie like year, In 2010 I said "OH crap, the Jets missed out on another great QB" He looked like he was going to be a stud. 62% completion , 3,451 yards, 25 TD's 6 interceptions, He really looked like he was going to be a good one. 2011 not so good, but not horrible. The Bucs were a bad team, he ha 16 TD's and 22 pics, but still was 62% completion In 2012 he had a bounce back season and looked very good again. 4,065 yards, 27 TD's 17 picks. playing for the biggest A hole in the NFL 2013 has been a disaster for him. IMO the HC got to him and the kid fell apart. The leaked "failed drug test" Then the info was released that he had some kind of personality disorder, and released. Picked up by the Vikes, and IMO unwisely started against the Giants I think with very lil preparation, was horrible, received a concussion, and forgotten about. I don't know what's going on with this personality disorder thing, but the kid really doesn't have bad #'s over his career. Think he is going to be very cheap, and well worth taking a flyer on to compete against Smith next year in camp. He'll be motivated with a full camp in the system knowing his career is on the line. If he sucks, oh well. IMO he has a very high upside in the right situation, and the right price making it feasible Longshot at best, I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 can you give me the INT count over the same time period? Kthx Typical fake Jets fan, always looking at the negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Typical fake Jets fan, always looking at the negative have you seen the team play? I'd need to blackout 95% of field to avoid looking at the negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Longshot at best, I would say. You may be right, but the kid has performed at a very high level in both 2010 and 2012. IMO he has some emotional issues, that may or may not be overcome. He is as good a prospect as most of the QB's in this draft if he gets his stuff together. he's actually performed at the NFL level Not saying to put all the eggs in his basket, but I think he would be very good competition for Smith next year. at a cheap price. If he busts out, no lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster2 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 The Jets should just draft another QB , stay away from the FA QB , I do not want a another Brett Fare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 The Jets should just draft another QB , stay away from the FA QB , I do not want a another Brett Fare Yes and no. Yes, the Jets should absolutely draft a QB, and I am even advocating for using some of our picks to move up if neccessary, BUT if they do not do this for some unfathomable reason (I mean just drafting a QB, not even have to move up), then you better get yourself one of the top FA QBs, because another year of Smith, Sanchez, Simms Garrard or any combination thereof, would be worse than having root canal performed by your mother-in-law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster2 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Yes and no. Yes, the Jets should absolutely draft a QB, and I am even advocating for using some of our picks to move up if neccessary, BUT if they do not do this for some unfathomable reason (I mean just drafting a QB, not even have to move up), then you better get yourself one of the top FA QBs, because another year of Smith, Sanchez, Simms Garrard or any combination thereof, would be worse than having root canal performed by your mother-in-law. To spend top money on a FA QB is a waste on cap money ,the playmakers and a QB ,CB , Ol ,LB , the Jets need more than a QB to be a top team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Because I think you can keep Mornhinweg if you hire Bevell, and Mornhinweg likes Vick. Vick assumes the Garrard mentor role. By that role you mean someone that is always inactive but gets to hang out and feel important during the week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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