flgreen Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 NY Jets don’t figure to pass on quarterback A few names that Gang Green may be pursuing once the market opens: Josh McCown, Michael Vick, Tarvaris Jackson. Comments (1) BY SETH WALDER / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS TUESDAY, MARCH 4, 2014, 9:49 PM Print SHARE THIS URL: JEFF ZELEVANSKY/GETTY IMAGES Gang Green could use a more secure backup option than Matt Simms (r.), especially if Geno Smith falters like he did in the middle of last season. Even the extraordinarily opaque John Idzik once called the Jets a “quarterback-obsessed team.” That still will hold true a year after Idzik drafted Geno Smith in the second round, and there is no doubt the Jets will try to improve the quarterback position as a whole this offseason, even if Smith is to remain the starter. Smith is no lock to start Week 1, but it’s still the most likely scenario after he finished strong over the final four games of 2013. The Jets gambled with Matt Simms as a backup throughout last season, but adding a veteran would be a more secure option behind Smith should the second-year signal-caller falter like he did in the middle of last season. One could argue that the Jets already have someone on their roster who would fit that description: Mark Sanchez. Sanchez, the former starter, is expected to be cut at some point before his $2 million roster bonus is due later this month, and it’s likely that his run with the Jets will end there. In theory, Sanchez could remain with Gang Green on a cheaper contract, but the Jets would probably like someone new to fill the veteran QB position. In fact, it wouldn’t be a shock if the Jets added two new quarterbacks — one stable presence to back up Smith and perhaps a later-round draft pick to develop as well. For now, though, the focus is on free agency, and there are a few names that Gang Green may be pursuing once the market opens on Tuesday: Josh McCown, Bears McCown proved last season that he can be more than an apt fill-in should his number be called. That’s exactly what the Jets need as they hope to build on a better-than-expected 8-8 season. The News reported in February that the Jets are eyeing the 34-year-old quarterback, but it remains to be seen if he can be lured away from Chicago. Michael Vick, Eagles He already has a relationship with Jets offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg as the two worked together in Philadelphia, so it could be an easy transition for the veteran to make the move to Florham Park. Smith was good when he used his legs last season, but he could probably run a little more. Perhaps he could learn a thing or two in that area from Vick. Tarvaris Jackson, Seahawks Jackson has already been both the starter and backup for one organization that Idzik has been a part of: the Seahawks. Now that Jackson is a free agent, the general manager could try to pry him away, offering a chance to get more snaps than he’ll have in Seattle. Jackson is probably not as good of a fit as Vick or McCown, but in an ugly market, the Jets could do worse than Jackson Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/jets-don-figure-pass-quarterback-article-1.1710952#ixzz2v5Wb2dmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 What if Manziel is there at 18? There are several scenarios in which that could happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 In other news the sky is blue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 In other news the sky is blue! Actually it's not, but we'll save that debate for July after the mini camps, and OTA's, when every one is on vacation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Vick, Jackson, McCown. How would signing one of them move this franchise forward? Vick is punch drunk done, the other two just suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 What if Manziel is there at 18? There are several scenarios in which that could happen Not enough Coors Light in the world for the party I will have if that dude is their at 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 What if Manziel is there at 18? There are several scenarios in which that could happen I hope not... Please let some other team make that mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Jets Mantra for the QB position this offseason: ANYBODY BUT SMITH. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangisGreen Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Vick and Jackson are worthless...McCown could be serviceable for a couple more years but is that what we are looking for? Stick with Geno and see what QB's are available come draft time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Vick and Jackson are worthless...McCown could be serviceable for a couple more years but is that what we are looking for? Stick with Geno and see what QB's are available come draft time. Good point. There are at least 10 QB's in this draft that would beat out Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Good point. There are at least 10 QB's in this draft that would beat out Geno. That isn't what Phil Simms thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 What if Manziel is there at 18? There are several scenarios in which that could happen If the Jets sign a guy like McCown before the draft it will be very tough to pick a 1st or 2nd rd QB. The FA QB market is terrible. Sanchez and VIck are the 2 best available and both are done. The best name out there is Blaine Gabbert who should be available after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 What if Manziel is there at 18? There are several scenarios in which that could happen back in January, a reporter asked a bunch of GMs and personnel guys who is the best QB in the draft. they all had different lists but if you averaged them all out, Manziel was the only one that didn't make it out of the top 5 picks on every list. I don't think he's getting to 10 let alone 18. That's crazy talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 vicks washed up. mccown only did good surrounded by marshall, jeffereies, bennett, and forte. he has been horrible eveywhere else. jackson is hot garbage as well. none of these guys makes me feel any better then geno. draft a qb later rounds or go with geno and simms again. if neither is the answer go all in next year for one of the big name college qbs (winston, marriota, hundley, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 What if Manziel is there at 18? There are several scenarios in which that could happen just isnt happening,, we will go vet FA QB and a 6/7 round or UDFA QB they think should have been drafted, aka a Bryn Renner from UNC type No 1st three round QBs will be drafted 'in my opinion',,but I've been wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I'm kinda looking at the whole situation like this and maybe I'm wrong, idk. There are 7 teams (Hou, Jax, Cle, TB, STL, Minn, Tenn, NYJ) that are all looking for a QB in some capacity. There are not many viable starting QB options available. All three guys on this list are far from guys you want to hand your franchises keys to. They have just as many knocks as Sanchez does. McCown did good with lots of weapons, so did Sanchez. Vick can't stay healthy, etc, etc. Given the increase in cap, its possible that by the end of the first few days of free agency, the Sanchez contract doesn't look so bad and both sides dont have that far to move to renegotiate and have Mark stay in NY. Or, the other scenerio is that after free agency when Minn, Oak or TB still dont have a QB, it could create a trade market for Sanchez. I dont think the Jets will be players in the free agency QB situation because I think the money given to these subpar guys is going to be crazy high. JMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 That isn't what Phil Simms thinks. Yeah, and if MATT SIMMS was backing up BLaine Gabbert, Phil would have Blaine already in the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 dont understand all the talk about how we shouldn't go after vick because "geno is better"--if that is true and geno wins a competition, vick would instantly be the top backup in the league. what's wrong with that? win/win whether vick gets the job or not--although i will spare you the suspense, he will destroy geno in any competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 dont understand all the talk about how we shouldn't go after vick because "geno is better"--if that is true and geno wins a competition, vick would instantly be the top backup in the league. what's wrong with that? win/win whether vick gets the job or not--although i will spare you the suspense, he will destroy geno in any competition. The very words at the end of your post ("He will destroy Geno"), is really the reason that the so-called Geno "supporters" don't want us to bring Vick in. You see, for 3 months, they have spent ad-nauseum telling us that Vick is washed up, injured, and has stats that are equal or worse than Genos, YET if he sucks so much as they have been telling us, and then he comes in and "destroys Geno" in competition, then where does this leave Smith? See, if they keep a worthless Bum like Sanchez and another unrealistic choice like Simms, then the Geno lovers will have no competition for their savior, and will be able to scream from the highest mountain that GENO is our man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Yeah, and if MATT SIMMS was backing up BLaine Gabbert, Phil would have Blaine already in the HOF. What 10 QBs in this years draft are better than Geno? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Why do we have to "pry" unrestricted free agents? You offer them money and years. They take it or they don't. Chicago and Seattle probably have less to do with it than Minnesota, Oakland and the other teams without a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 What 10 QBs in this years draft are better than Geno? Manziel Bortles Bridgewater Carr McCarron Mettenberger Murray Garrapolo Savage Smith Boyd Matthews I had to throw in my boy Jef Matthews at the end, right? Go Big Red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Manziel Bortles Bridgewater Carr McCarron Mettenberger Murray Garrapolo Savage Smith Boyd Matthews I had to throw in my boy Jef Matthews at the end, right? Go Big Red. Odds are that more than half end up with less yards in their career than Geno had last year. You get a lot of mileage out of this one topic. Yet you never get anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 If the Jets sign a guy like McCown before the draft it will be very tough to pick a 1st or 2nd rd QB. I don't think signing a guy like McCown would change their approach to the draft at all. He'll be 35 this summer, a potential stop-gap, and probably backup. Not much more. I don't think the Jets are likely to take a QB in the first two rounds either way, though. It's the third round, where they (should) have two picks that I could see them pull the trigger. dont understand all the talk about how we shouldn't go after vick because "geno is better"--if that is true and geno wins a competition, vick would instantly be the top backup in the league. what's wrong with that? win/win whether vick gets the job or not--although i will spare you the suspense, he will destroy geno in any competition. They probably would like to replace Geno with someone who turns the ball over less. Vick isn't that guy. He's a mediocre passer, and a habitual fumbler. My opinion is that his suspect talent level doesn't overcome his considerable baggage. I also suspect that barring some major trade for a QB whose name hasn't come up here yet, the Jets will favor Geno in any competition. I think they'll do a lot to improve the weapons around him, and give him every chance to succeed this year. If he doesn't, then the weapons will be in place for the QB they target in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Odds are that more than half end up with less yards in their career than Geno had last year. You get a lot of mileage out of this one topic. Yet you never get anywhere. Should we start on the 2015 draft? Winston Mariota Hundley Petty Mannion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Should we start on the 2015 draft? Winston Mariota Hundley Petty Mannion Serious question: What the **** are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Serious question: What the **** are you talking about? I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Manziel Bortles Bridgewater Carr McCarron Mettenberger Murray Garrapolo Savage Smith Boyd Matthews I had to throw in my boy Jef Matthews at the end, right? Go Big Red. Documented for future use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Documented for future use. Anytime I can be of service, just call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I'm kinda looking at the whole situation like this and maybe I'm wrong, idk. There are 7 teams (Hou, Jax, Cle, TB, STL, Minn, Tenn, NYJ) that are all looking for a QB in some capacity. There are not many viable starting QB options available. All three guys on this list are far from guys you want to hand your franchises keys to. They have just as many knocks as Sanchez does. McCown did good with lots of weapons, so did Sanchez. Vick can't stay healthy, etc, etc. Given the increase in cap, its possible that by the end of the first few days of free agency, the Sanchez contract doesn't look so bad and both sides dont have that far to move to renegotiate and have Mark stay in NY. I agree with you that the free agent QB market this year is so scarce that Mark Sanchez will actually be one of the top names on it once he's released, and he will almost certainly be released. They'll use their cap room this year to wipe him completely off the books. Sanchez needs a change of scenery, and the Jets need him to be gone. So he'll be gone. Or, the other scenerio is that after free agency when Minn, Oak or TB still dont have a QB, it could create a trade market for Sanchez. I dont think the Jets will be players in the free agency QB situation because I think the money given to these subpar guys is going to be crazy high. JMHO. Sanchez has a $2M bonus due two weeks into free agency. They need to do something with him before then. I think the only way they'll be able to trade him is if he accepts a massive cut in pay for 2014. If a team can secure him for less money than they think he might cost in a potential bidding war (I know how that sounds), they might pony up a pick. But it has to be done before that bonus is paid. Such a move would work for Sanchez if it keeps the remainder of his contract intact. If he performs well this year, he'll be in position to make a lot more money going forward with that deal in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Documented for future use. If 10QB's are successful starters from this draft- it would be record breaking and unheard of- just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I have no idea. If you don't know, you are in good company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 If 10QB's are successful starters from this draft- it would be record breaking and unheard of- just sayin 1983? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 1983? 31 years ago-I can not remember two weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 1983? Nope. Try doing a little research. Once. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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