Villain The Foe Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Best QB in this draft is basically what..20-25th best QB in the league ceiling? Im not sure, what I can tell you is that he'll be the best QB drafted during these 3 nights. Thats a pretty good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Im not sure, what I can tell you is that he'll be the best QB drafted during these 3 nights. Thats a pretty good start. And that's probably not even better than what Matt Cassell is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 And that's probably not even better than what Matt Cassell is. Probably not, or you can probably just be hating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 What will Texas do now? Got to be Carr. Deja vu all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Probably not, or you can probably just be hating. Possibly, but I have no reason to not like Teddy. Guys who fall like that generally fall because they aren't that good. The VIkings didnt outsmart everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Possibly, but I have no reason to not like Teddy. Guys who fall like that generally fall because they aren't that good. The VIkings didnt outsmart everyone. Boy oh boy. Quoting people in this thread will be fun in the future , I'll make sure to bring this thread up when Bridgewater or Manziel are tearing apart defenses and we stuck with the great Geno Smith who put games together such as his great 8 completions or whatever game. Hall of fame qb right their. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Boy oh boy. Quoting people in this thread will be fun in the future , I'll make sure to bring this thread up when Bridgewater or Manziel are tearing apart defenses and we stuck with the great Geno Smith who put games together such as his great 8 completions or whatever game. Hall of fame qb right their. right THUR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 There's going to be an entertaining run on QBs early in R2... Lovie Smith just announced that Mike Glennon is the Bucs QB of the future... posturing already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Boy oh boy. Quoting people in this thread will be fun in the future , I'll make sure to bring this thread up when Bridgewater or Manziel are tearing apart defenses and we stuck with the great Geno Smith who put games together such as his great 8 completions or whatever game. Hall of fame qb right their.we'll be bragging about Rex holding them to a 60 QB rating after we lose to one of them 20-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Possibly, but I have no reason to not like Teddy. Guys who fall like that generally fall because they aren't that good. The VIkings didnt outsmart everyone. Players fall for two reasons and two reasons only, and neither one can be proven on draft night. #1. because the teams are making a good decision #2. because teams are making a poor decision. This goes back to what I've always said about "observing play in shorts". Teams letting years worth of proof on the field go down the drain because of what a kid did in shorts on a pro day. Its ridiculous, but a situation that the vikings took full advantage of. They just got a QB who isn't only physically gifted but has the talent to understand defenses and call his own plays on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 This site loves to overreact, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Players fall for two reasons and two reasons only, and neither one can be proven on draft night. #1. because the teams are making a good decision #2. because teams are making a poor decision. This goes back to what I've always said about "observing play in shorts". Teams letting years worth of proof on the field go down the drain because of what a kid did in shorts on a pro day. Its ridiculous, but a situation that the vikings took full advantage of. They just got a QB who isn't only physically gifted but has the talent to understand defenses and call his own plays on the field. We got that same exact guy last year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Got to be Carr. Deja vu all over again. jimmy garappolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 you hittin' the dugout again ? Just following the Cubs rebuild, I think it's interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 We got that same exact guy last year though. No, no we didn't. It's not even comparable. Bridgewater's footwork is way cleaner, he makes way better decisions, and doesn't have the problem of locking onto wr's that Geno has. Geno has "slow eyes." Also, unlike Geno, Bridgewater has stepped up in big games, he didn't buckle like a bitch. He also played in a pro style offense, something Geno didn't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 No, no we didn't. It's not even comparable. Bridgewater's footwork is way cleaner, he makes way better decisions, and doesn't have the problem of locking onto wr's that Geno has. Geno has "slow eyes." Also, unlike Geno, Bridgewater has stepped up in big games, he didn't buckle like a bitch. He also played in a pro style offense, something Geno didn't do. http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=320040228 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 We got that same exact guy last year though. Meaning Geno? If so then I feel that when its said and done the Jets would have had one of the best drafts picks that year. Richardson is a future pro bowler, Milliner looks like he's about to make that turn (and having Pryor in the back will be a good help) and Geno will get at least 2 targets before this draft is done to compliment the outside (WR) and to help control the middle of the field (TE). Geno Smith was better than E.J. Manuel, I don't care what the situation was. Geno shouldn't have even been in the 2nd round, but it worked out for us. There will be only one smart team in a situation like that an like I feel it will be the vikings tonight, I feel that the Jets a year or two from now will have a QB that no one is questioning in Geno Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Meaning Geno? If so then I feel that when its said and done the Jets would have had one of the best drafts picks that year. Richardson is a future pro bowler, Milliner looks like he's about to make that turn (and having Pryor in the back will be a good help) and Geno will get at least 2 targets before this draft is done to compliment the outside (WR) and to help control the middle of the field (TE). Geno Smith was better than E.J. Manuel, I don't care what the situation was. Geno shouldn't have even been in the 2nd round, but it worked out for us. There will be only one smart team in a situation like that an like I feel it will be the vikings tonight, I feel that the Jets a year or two from now will have a QB that no one is questioning in Geno Smith. Nope, Manuel was better last year. Manuel was hurt and was still significantly better then Geno was. Though to be honest, I don't see either of them as starting qb's down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 No, no we didn't. It's not even comparable. Bridgewater's footwork is way cleaner, he makes way better decisions, and doesn't have the problem of locking onto wr's that Geno has. Geno has "slow eyes." Also, unlike Geno, Bridgewater has stepped up in big games, he didn't buckle like a bitch. He also played in a pro style offense, something Geno didn't do. lol, sometimes I think you type just to type sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=320040228 I'm guessing you didn't watch his epic collapse during his final year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I'm tired and Suzy Kolber looks like she can curl me. I'd let her curl me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Nope, Manuel was better last year. Manuel was hurt and was still significantly better then Geno was. Though to be honest, I don't see either of them as starting qb's down the road. He wasn't on the field so how can you say that? like I said to your last post, you type just to type sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 lol, sometimes I think you type just to type sh*t. Not going to lie, I'm raging over the fact that vikings were able to trade up to get Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Not going to lie, I'm raging over the fact that vikings were able to trade up to get Bridgewater. lol. Atleast you're honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I'm guessing you didn't watch his epic collapse during his final year? Teddy had his bad moments as well. Again, besides the obvious...extremely similar prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 He wasn't on the field so how can you say that? like I said to your last post, you type just to type sh*t. I can say that based off of the games I did watch. Manuel wasn't making bonehead decisions like butt fumbling and running out the back of his own end zone like Geno was. You have the rose colored glasses on for Geno (being a jets fan) and seeing what you want to see instead of what is actually happening. Geno sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Teddy had his bad moments as well. Again, besides the obvious...extremely similar prospects. Dude if you honestly can't watch their game tape and tell how different of prospects they are, I don't what to tell you. Just look at their footwork for f's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Dude if you honestly can't watch their game tape and tell how different of prospects they are, I don't what to tell you. Just look at their footwork for f's sake. I have actual NFL tape of Geno making NFL throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I have actual NFL tape of Geno making NFL throws. To corners? I have a lot of tape like that to my friend. Or are you talking about the ground? Cause I saw a lot of that happen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 To corners? I have a lot of tape like that to my friend. Or are you talking about the ground? Cause I saw a lot of that happen to. Not touting Geno to be anything great...but I'd rather have the potential star at safety than redundancy at the QB position. If Geno wasnt already on the roster we probably do what Minnesota did an hour ago. Teddy wasn't coming in this August and blowing Geno out of the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Every back still available. All guards available...and a ton of WR's left. I think we are ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I can say that based off of the games I did watch. Manuel wasn't making bonehead decisions like butt fumbling and running out the back of his own end zone like Geno was. You have the rose colored glasses on for Geno (being a jets fan) and seeing what you want to see instead of what is actually happening. Geno sucks. Butt fumble, and running out of the end zone is your best reason? Geno Smith played all 16 games and no matter what you say about him the kid won 8 games on a team predicted to win 2 to 4 games. Geno would have won more games with Buffalo's WR targets. Of course that doesn't count because like the person wearing the pessimistic glasses they won't see the obvious. The Jets had the worst targets in the entire league and a starting rookie QB, thats not even debatable. E.J. Manuel needs to be able to stay on the field before you even compare him to Geno. I dont wanna hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Arizona just took Deone Buchanon over Bridgewater and Carr. We took Pryor over Manziel, Bridgewater and Carr. Obviously the fans over-rate the QBs prospects, as usual. yeah because the teams have been so good over the years evaluating Qb talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 yeah because the teams have been so good over the years evaluating Qb talent the majority of QB's picked stink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 the majority of QB's picked stink yes this is true but you also have to look at teams that have destroyed QB's due to lack of talent and coaching we are certainly at the top of that list ...At least under Idzik we're doing something with the offensive talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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