GREENBEAN Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 What do you think about this guy being our first 4th rd pick today? 6' 5" and good speed. What do you think about this guy being our first 4th rd pick today? 6' 5" and good speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 That would be a good pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Go get him, Tanny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 Martavis Bryant- 4.42 40yd dash Strengths Excellent body length with a long, rangy frame. Very good straight-line, separation speed. Can drop his hips surprisingly well for as tall as he is and is fairly shifty after the catch. Good red-zone target -- effective making back-shoulder catches. Flashes the ability to climb the ladder and highpoint the ball. Has return experience. Weaknesses Inconsistent hands -- tends to double-clutch the ball and makes too many easy drops. Is not a polished route runner -- is stiff in and out of his breaks. Lacks toughness desired to work the middle of the field. Must prove that he is willing to work to assimilate a playbook and learn the finer points of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Isn't he Stephen Hill 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Dude has confidence in his hands and amazing body control. I say if developed right he could be a great WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 That would be a good pick. The issue I have with him is he might be like Steven Hill in that he has all the measurables you want in a WR but simply drops the friggin ball. I wonder what the Jets think of him. Rex did spend a lot of time down in Clemson this off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 Isn't he Stephen Hill 2.0? That's my fear. Thing is that he was asked to catch the ball much more than hill in college and I'm pretty sure his body of work is larger. He's one of those high upside but risky players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I would rather have a guy that knows how to play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 That's my fear. Thing is that he was asked to catch the ball much more than hill in college and I'm pretty sure his body of work is larger. He's one of those high upside but risky players. He has 61 career catches. 42 last year. Hill, I think had 38 his senior season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 That's my fear. Thing is that he was asked to catch the ball much more than hill in college and I'm pretty sure his body of work is larger. He's one of those high upside but risky players. You gotta think though. Hill was a complete waste of a valuable 2nd round pick. Bryant wouldn't be a reach in the 4th. Plus.. I think Hill being so raw and not being involved in enough passing downs is part of the reason he sucks. Georgia Tech is a heavy running team. While Clemson was passing to the likes of Watkins and whoever else every down. It's honestly a different scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I hated him when his name was Stephen Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 You gotta think though. Hill was a complete waste of a valuable 2nd round pick. Bryant wouldn't be a reach in the 4th. Plus.. I think Hill being so raw and not being involved in enough passing downs is part of the reason he sucks. Georgia Tech is a heavy running team. While Clemson was passing to the likes of Watkins and whoever else every down. It's honestly a different scenario. Yeah, if only we would have drafted Stephen Hill in the 5th round, he'd be a different guy. I'm not saying he's definitely Stephen Hill, but lets not make this guy out to be some sort of seasoned receiver when he caught nine passes, then ten, then 42 in his college career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Yeah, if only we would have drafted Stephen Hill in the 5th round, he'd be a different guy. I'm not saying he's definitely Stephen Hill, but lets not make this guy out to be some sort of seasoned receiver when he caught nine passes, then ten, then 42 in his college career.I'm not making it out to be like that... but I do think he has showed more NFL capability in that limited playing time then Hills whole career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 You gotta think though. Hill was a complete waste of a valuable 2nd round pick. Bryant wouldn't be a reach in the 4th. Plus.. I think Hill being so raw and not being involved in enough passing downs is part of the reason he sucks. Georgia Tech is a heavy running team. While Clemson was passing to the likes of Watkins and whoever else every down. It's honestly a different scenario. I agree with you. The similarity is the issue with the hands. I would still like to see them get an impact player or two in the 4th rd this year. Maybe I'm valuing the later picks a little high right now, but I would rather them not start the 'depth" picks until the 5th if possible. Hey we got Kerley in the 5th and he was good from the get go so we can definitely nab someone who contributes for us this year here with our three 4th's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 What do you think about this guy being our first 4th rd pick today? 6' 5" and good speed. What do you think about this guy being our first 4th rd pick today? 6' 5" and good speed. sure as hell looks like he has good control of his body unlike Stephen Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YrUqgCEL1o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I'm not making it out to be like that... but I do think he has showed more NFL capability in that limited playing time then Hills whole career. You've probably got a better read on him than me, so fair enough. But it still worries me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Honestly I don't think I have seen that good of body control in a while.... definitely something that defines him as a WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 You've probably got a better read on him than me, so fair enough. But it still worries me. Oh for sure.. I mean any player can flop out And Bryant is almost an experimental player in the fact that we don't really know how he would turn out with limited playing time. Idk. I just have a good feeling about the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Isn't he Stephen Hill 2.0? Even if he is, there's nothing wrong with taking that type of guy in R4. Fans forget that WRs usually take 2-3 years to pan out. Keenan Allen's are rare. Most guys like Miles Austin, who kicked around the Dallas org for a couple years and then BOOM he was stud for them. I think Abbrederis, Ellington or Bryant would be a fine addition today. The reality is, the top 3 WRs on this team are already on the roster: Decker, Kerley, Hill, Jacoby Ford, Nelson. That is why Amaro and Cumby are a great pair of investments this off-season. I expect an uptick in the super popular 12 personnel grouping from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Even if he is, there's nothing wrong with taking that type of guy in R4. Fans forget that WRs usually take 2-3 years to pan out. Keenan Allen's are rare. Most guys like Miles Austin, who kicked around the Dallas org for a couple years and then BOOM he was stud for them. I think Abbrederis, Ellington or Bryant would be a fine addition today. The reality is, the top 3 WRs on this team are already on the roster: Decker, Kerley, Hill, Jacoby Ford, Nelson. That is why Amaro and Cumby are a great pair of investments this off-season. I expect an uptick in the super popular 12 personnel grouping from us. 100% agree. If you look at it.. Our offense Is a million times better then last year even without a sure starter at QB....again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 There are still jets draft visits available. I still think we're taking one of them because they probably rank highly on the jets board. Out of them, i think they go walt powell or tom savage. Mcgill if they don't mind double dipping. I do like bryant or abbraderis here though but don't see it happening. bryant is a size-speed guy that doesn't know how to play receiver, but he's a perfect 4th round guy to work as a project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 There are still jets draft visits available. I still think we're taking one of them because they probably rank highly on the jets board. Out of them, i think they go walt powell or tom savage. Mcgill if they don't mind double dipping. I do like bryant or abbraderis here though but don't see it happening. bryant is a size-speed guy that doesn't know how to play receiver, but he's a perfect 4th round guy to work as a project. Abbrederis seems like Brian Robiskie to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Yeah you would think Jets and Idzik know all about any Clemson players so it will be interesting to see if we actually go with Bryant or Boyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 a LOT of body catches in that package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Abbrederis seems like Brian Robiskie to me. I can see that easily. Don't see a lot of upside to his game and he'd probably just be a possession guy. Slim pickings at WR though at this point unless these small school guys are sleepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Intangibles 4 Suspended (academics) for 2012 Chick-fil-A Bowl game vs. LSU. Multiple NFL scouts have voiced concerns regarding 'mental capacity'. Also concerns about 'clutter' and 'distractions' in his life. Was disciplined (missed portion of Wake Forest game) for giving throat-slash gesture vs. N.C. State in 2013. DISTRACTION IN HIS LIFE AND CONCERN ABOUT HIS MENTAL CAPACITY. No wonder with all his talents and coming from a good program, he is still available. I can see the Pats taking a chance on this guy. Even if this guy turn out to be somewhat good; he could be a headcase and a cancer in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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