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Im really surprised themedia hasnt killed Mac yet. They're buying theline that its early, but his offense has been absolutely dreadfull in preseason and hes never been an OC before.

 

I read something the other day about Coughlin saying he would be available for him if he needed help with the playcalling:

 

http://nypost.com/2014/09/04/coughlin-will-big-time-mcadoo-on-play-calls-if-he-has-to/

 

Coughlin will help rookie play-caller McAdoo if needed

September 4, 2014 | 1:49pm

 
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Tom Coughlin and Ben McAdoo on the Giants sidelinePhoto: Paul J. Bereswill

Tom Coughlin did not appreciate having anyone chime in when he was calling plays, so the Giants coach won’t be quick to interject his opinions on first-year offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo.

Nevertheless, if McAdoo — calling the plays for the first time in his life in a real, live NFL game — needs help Monday night in Detroit, Coughlin, says he is available.

But Coughlin doesn’t think it will come to that.

“I have been a play-caller,’’ Coughlin said Thursday, as the Giants started their preparation for the season opener against the Lions. “I’ll be honest with you, I never liked anybody interrupting me. Between series is the best time to visit to talk about that.’’

In other, words, this is McAdoo’s show, and Coughlin trusts him to do it.

McAdoo, 37, was hired away from the Packers. He served as tight ends coach then quarterbacks coach in Green Bay but never has been an offensive coordinator at any level, thus never has called the plays. The results were rocky this summer, with the starting offense often going nowhere in the five preseason games.

“Well, we are a work in progress, no doubt about it,’’ Coughlin said. “We have done some good things and we have done some bad things. Ben McAdoo is a solid, solid football coach that knows what he is talking about. Has an excellent system, applies himself every day, very smart. We are doing OK there.’’

Coughlin went out of his comfort zone hiring McAdoo, as he did not have any previous experience with him. McAdoo brought in his version of the West Coast offense, that was used in Green Bay under head coach Mike McCarthy, and Coughlin said there already is a clearly visible difference in what McAdoo holds in his hands on game day.

“You may have observed what he carries around on the sideline,’’ Coughlin said. “It looks like he needs help carrying it around. If it were me, I would have a sheet of paper in my back pocket, but this guy … any circumstance or situation that we have discussed or practiced or whatever, he is prepared.’’

Indeed, McAdoo’s play chart is bigger than most.

“I am just kidding about what he has,’’ Coughlin said. “What we prepare and what he has is a game plan card, which is a big card. Our cards in the past have been a bit smaller. Whether or not they are the same number of plays, it’s close. But he likes a big handy card because that is what he is used to, that is what coach McCarthy used in Green Bay. If he is comfortable with that, then so be it.’’

Mosty, Coughlin will allow McAdoo to do his job in his debut inside Ford Field.

“If I need to say something, I will,’’ Coughlin said. “Let’s put it that way.’’

 

Well that's certainly a ringing endorsement...doesn't sound like Coughlin is all that confident in him at all.  It should be interesting.

 

I'm actually in a survivor pool at work, and we have a 5 person "committee" deciding how to divide our points up and which games to pick.  Unfortunately, I'm stuck on the committee with 3 Giants fans and 1 Cowboys' fan.  All three Giants' fans picked Detroit as their top pick of the week.  My boss doesn't even think Eli is going to make it out of the game without an injury.  But yeah, they'll do so much better with an offense run by an inexperienced coordinator...lol.

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It took you 8 minutes to come up with that???

 

Man, and all those PM's I got from your "boyz" telling me how badass you were, and how I should not mess with you, and that is what you came up with? You are lettin your "boyz" down.

I toil alone; please don't embarrass that person further.

 

The subject has changed from poetic license, to you slapping a .red "P"' on everyone. 

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I toil alone; please don't embarrass that person further.

 

The subject has changed from poetic license, to you slapping a .red "P"' on everyone. 

 

I honestly have no idea what the hell you are talking about. I really hope you were drunk or high when you wrote this. Not because I condone drug use, but the thought that this came from you in an un-altered state makes me scared for where our society is heading. Go Jets!

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I have been a play-caller,’’ Coughlin said Thursday, as the Giants started their preparation for the season opener against the Lions. “I’ll be honest with you, I never liked anybody interrupting me. Between series is the best time to visit to talk about that.’’

In other, words, this is McAdoo’s show, and Coughlin trusts him to do it.

 

 

NO !!!!

 

in other words, if the offense is sucking, coughlin will talk to him about it.......between series !!!!!

 

if he trusted him he would say he doesn't need any help, lol

 

I hope I live to see the day the jets get sweetheart treatment from the media

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I have been a play-caller,’’ Coughlin said Thursday, as the Giants started their preparation for the season opener against the Lions. “I’ll be honest with you, I never liked anybody interrupting me. Between series is the best time to visit to talk about that.’’

In other, words, this is McAdoo’s show, and Coughlin trusts him to do it.

 

 

NO !!!!

 

in other words, if the offense is sucking, coughlin will talk to him about it.......between series !!!!!

 

if he trusted him he would say he doesn't need any help, lol

 

I hope I live to see the day the jets get sweetheart treatment from the media

 

I think if we were to win 2 championships in a 7 year period, the coach and QB who did so would receive similar treatment. Lets not forget that despite winning 2 SB's, Eli and Coughlin are both bashed a lot, by the Giants fans, and the NY media.

 

There was talk that if the Giants did not make the playoffs in 11, that Coughlin might be gone, after he already won a SB.

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I think if we were to win 2 championships in a 7 year period, the coach and QB who did so would receive similar treatment. Lets not forget that despite winning 2 SB's, Eli and Coughlin are both bashed a lot, by the Giants fans, and the NY media.

 

There was talk that if the Giants did not make the playoffs in 11, that Coughlin might be gone, after he already won a SB.

Simply think Jints' ownership grew tired of Gilbride's offense,and decided to go for what they perceive as the next hot thing in MacAdoo's version of the WCO.Not entirely clear McAoo did much for Aaron Rodgers that he didn't already have.  Problem is ELi Manning is as mismatched for that offense was Vinny Testaverde was here. He has a big and sometimes inaccurate arm. Asking him to throw 3-step drop quick short  hits is asking for trouble. It negates his talent. The WCO is great if you have a guy (Chad Pennington comes to mind) who doesn't have a big arm and is okay wih getting yards in small chunks. It's a bad idea when your QB can in fact throw deep with regularity. The Jints' OL is the problem, not the QB. Instead of fixing that they changed scheme. The Jints will be lucky to win 8 games.

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Simply think Jints' ownership grew tired of Gilbride's offense,and decided to go for what they perceive as the next hot thing in MacAdoo's version of the WCO.Not entirely clear McAoo did much for Aaron Rodgers that he didn't already have.  Problem is ELi Manning is as mismatched for that offense was Vinny Testaverde was here. He has a big and sometimes inaccurate arm. Asking him to throw 3-step drop quick short  hits is asking for trouble. It negates his talent. The WCO is great if you have a guy (Chad Pennington comes to mind) who doesn't have a big arm and is okay wih getting yards in small chunks. It's a bad idea when your QB can in fact throw deep with regularity. The Jints' OL is the problem, not the QB. Instead of fixing that they changed scheme. The Jints will be lucky to win 8 games.

 

I completely agree with everything you are saying. I think the Jets are going to be 3-4 games better than the Giants this year.

 

I just have no expectations that the Jets are going to be treated the same way as the Giants.

 

In my lifetime the Giants have won 4 SB's, and been to 5. The Jets have been to zero. That tends to lend itself to more slack from the fans and the media. Does not make it right, just the way it be.

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