"Deflategate" and Tom Brady are just side notes

[Jet_Engine1]

This whole scandal is not even a central issue here. Tom Bradys behavior is not a central issue. The whole "Deflategate" scandal and the way its being discussed in the media  is just further proof that the Sports Media complex is either completely missing the point, dumber even than we think they are, or are actively parsing this thing down to a level that it can be looked at in a vacuum.

 

All we've learned through this whole thing that should possibly be "new" to anyone is that Tom Brady is a liar, a cheater, and of poor character, but if you were paying attention to this guy years ago and the way he comported himself personally, you would have already known he was an entitled, selfish, spoiled brat who has zero Integrity or Character.

 

The biggest thing that should be discussed today is the fact that Tom Bradys behavior in this whole scandal was FOSTERED by the very CULTURE of the Patriots. That he thought it was OK, and he was doing nothing wrong because according to the "Patriot Way" cheating for an advantage was to be lauded - and if you were caught, you throw away a line about "not completely understanding the rules", or blame a "Process", and that it must have been somebody else and you had no knowledge of the activities and move on. 

 

Bill Bellichick learned his lesson in Cleveland. You can work your ass off, put in more hours than anyone else, be detail oriented and innovative and run your team in a new fashion, but if you have average talent on the team, you have to watch Morons like Barry ******* Switzer and Bill Parcells win Championships while you get fired and see your team pick up and move to a new town.

 

Billy Boy wasn't ever going to let that happen again.

 

As I said in another thread:

 

But the problem isn't "this scandal" or "that scandal", its the Patriots culture of INSTITUTIONALIZED CHEATING. THAT is the Patriot way. You find your "advantages" through intelligent scheming and in the weight room, what the Patriots have embraced under Bellichick for 15 years is a CULTURE OF CHEATING.

From Injury reports to Phantom Radios, and jamming signals, and bugging locker rooms, the Patriots have been cheating since Bellichick walked into that building. He learned HIS LESSON in Cleveland, he that works hardest DOES NOT WIN. The guy that puts in the time and comes up with BRILLIANT ideas does not  even win. Effort does NOT bring a coach with a team that is average in talent Championships or success.

He who CHEATS, WINS.

SO Bellichick learned his lesson, and he did EVERY and ANY THING he could to bring himself and his team an advantage.

Lie on injury reports? Check.

Bug opponents Locker Rooms? Check.

Spy on opponents practices? Check.

Listen to opponents radio traffic? CHeck.

Jam the opponents head sets? Check.

Videotape and analyze opponents sidelines for signals? Check.

Videotape a SB opponents walkthrough? Check.

Alter game equipment? Check.

Carry yourself as if you were above the game, and dismiss any allegations as jealousy? Check.

Use your Billionaire Owners influence to bully the League? Check.

Nothing they have done over the course of 15 years has been genuine. Nothing. Everything is suspect and tainted.

In a moment of honesty yesterday, Ryan Clark said plainly and without waiver that the ENTIRE LEAGUE looks at the Patriots as not only a bunch of underhanded cheaters, but they despise Tom Brady and his smug, arrogant manner.

 

 

 

 

And the "Media" is actively going out of their way to ignore this fact and to pretend that this was an ISOLATED INSTANCE. And that "Spygate" while being on the rap sheet of this Franchise, was also an isolated incident. But that couldn't be further from the truth.

 

This team is built around "pushing the envelope of the rules", be it on the field or off. Don't have the CBs to hang with receivers? Hold them and beat them up - they "Can't call them all". Have crappy Wide Receivers? Roll out a formation that pushes the boundaries of the rules....without verifying the play with the league beforehand to see if its actually legal (the common practice that all other teams follow). Need to slow down a hurryup offense? Lay on the ground and feign injury. This is seen as "clever" by those with NO INTEGRITY, but its CHEATING. PERIOD. 

 

 

There can be NO "Benefit of the Doubt" with this team, because this team THRIVES on capitalizing on benefit of the doubt. The same people in the media that tell us how "Brilliant" Bellichick are will be the same fools that buy his line that he "Didn't know the process", or "Misunderstood the rule". 

 

The New England Patriot "Way" is simply institutional, glorified, hidden in plain sight CHEATING, and the story SHOULD BE that Tom Brady, a Future HOF'er felt Comfortable enough to tarnish his own legacy by Cheating in the most inglorious and low class manner, lying about it in a smug and arrogant press conference, and then relying on the fact that they have ALWAYS gotten away with it, because thats what the Patriots have ALWAYS done, and up till now they have always GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT. So why should this be any different for them?

[jgb]

great post, but doubt he cares

 

[Jet_Engine1]

****

 

Thats what Tommy Boy will have with all of his accomplishments long after that Horse Faced Kraut leaves him. 

[nyjets782]

This culture of cheating is also supported by 2 facts:

 

1.    The Patriots have never hired an established coordinator under Belichick.  After Crennel and Weis left and fell flat on their faces, they simply promoted guys from within with resumes that hardly inspired confidence.  Look at the resumes of guys like McDaniels and Dean Pees and Matt Patricia before they were hired by lard ass.  You certainly would not be thrilled if your team hired them based upon those resumes.  In order to keep the lid on the systematic cheating, they must have coordinators that are not a risk to blow the lid on their operation (Mangini being the exception only because fat Bill was arrogant enough to do it out in the open on the road to a guy who knew he would do it).  Why do all of these coordinators fall flat on their face when they get head jobs? (Crennell, Weis, Mangini, McDaniels)  They either do not cheat elsewhere or have not perfected the art of cheating as in the case of McDaniels in Denver who tried to implement his own spygate system there before he was run out of town.  Throw in the fact that fat Bill himself was awful in Cleveland and this one is a slam dunk.

 

2.     Not one Patriot player has ever performed better with his new team than he did with the Patriots once hitting free agency.  (David Givens, Deion Branch, Tully Banta-Cain, Asante Samuel, etc.)  It's always harder to perform when your coordinators do not know ahead of time what the other team is running.

 

You can argue this is just coincidence but you would think there would have to be an exception to these 2 somewhere along the line.  Maybe Bill O'Brien turns out to be an exception but he has a long way to go.

[#27TheDominator]

Guess Revis is gonna suck...

[nyjets782]

Guess Revis is gonna suck...

Did they draft him?  Moss didn't suck nor did Corey Dillon... pretty sure I wasn't referring to established players prior to getting there. 

[rillo]

great post, but doubt he cares

She needs to eat a steak or something...

[jgb]

She needs to eat a steak or something...

 

I'm sure she eats a wiener or two at the ballpark

[rillo]

I'm sure she eats a wiener or two at the ballpark

Then promptly throws it up.

[jgb]

Then promptly throws it up.

 

Ya the hot ones never swallow bro

[rillo]

Ya the hot ones never swallow bro

Brilliant.

[Charlie Brown]

Great OP.. great!!

 

The thing is folks want to act that the Pats cheating was random and isolated as opposed to systematic and ongoing....

 

Thank you so much for your logic, even if the media as you put it continues to keep it head in the sand.

[Irktusk]

She needs to eat a steak or something...

Nope, she really doesn't

[rillo]

Nope, she really doesn't

I guess, if you like skin n bones sure.

[Ex-Rex]

The New England Patriot "Way" is simply institutional, glorified, hidden in plain sight CHEATING, and the story SHOULD BE that Tom Brady, a Future HOF'er felt Comfortable enough to tarnish his own legacy by Cheating in the most inglorious and low class manner, lying about it in a smug and arrogant press conference, and then relying on the fact that they have ALWAYS gotten away with it, because thats what the Patriots have ALWAYS done, and up till now they have always GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT. So why should this be any different for them?

Nice article man, but like water off a ducks back, the Patriots couldn't care less what anyone thinks of them. To them the end justifies the means. If it was up to me I would do a complete investigation of every aspect of that organization and I wouldn't let Belichick or Brady into the HOF until they were dead and gone. No glory for cheaters. 

[Beerfish]

Agreed with the op.  Even the olieman eligible thing this past year.  Do you think no other team thought of pulling the cheap stunt the pats did?  Predictably once again the nfl had to pass a rule or make a rule change specifically to deal with one teams attempts to circumvent rules or bend them to the breaking point.

[jetfrantik]

Steal if you will, Lie if you must, but always Cheat.  "The Patriot Way."

[Blackout]

i love how awful Brady came off during that press conference

 

 

smug, arrogant and egotistic as a mofo.  people are finally seeing through his pretty boy facade.

[Blackout]

Is it to soon to make auschwitz jokes?

 

she has zero butt....yuck

[Jetster]

Agreed with the op.  Even the olieman eligible thing this past year.  Do you think no other team thought of pulling the cheap stunt the pats did?  Predictably once again the nfl had to pass a rule or make a rule change specifically to deal with one teams attempts to circumvent rules or bend them to the breaking point.

Especially the fact they pulled it out in a playoff game desperation mode down 14 points.

That sh*t got them back in the game.

Plus the fact the the Solder TD there should have been a penalty on the play.

[PatsFanTX]

Shouldn't you guys be more concerned with what the Jets are doing to get out of the AFCE basement and win more than 4 games?

 

4-time winning Super Bowl QB's can basically act anyway they wish.

[JohnnyLV]

Shouldn't you guys be more concerned with what the Jets are doing to get out of the AFCE basement and win more than 4 games?

 

4-time winning Super Bowl QB's can basically act anyway they wish.

 

Why are you not banned. It is a Jets forum. Why you are allowed to troll here still is mind boggling. Intelligent posts about opposing teams is fine but 20000 troll posts just intended to piss off and incite are over the line.

[PFSIKH]

Why are you not banned. It is a Jets forum. Why you are allowed to troll here still is mind boggling. Intelligent posts about opposing teams is fine but 20000 troll posts just intended to piss off and incite are over the line.

 

Technically, he was banned, but hit counts dipped during his abscence.

[Maxman]

Technically, he was banned, but hit counts dipped during his abscence.

 

That isn't true. He is just back from a 60 day stint I believe. And our post counts were at a record high. We definitely are past the point of needing anything to be instigated. I like Tx personally and know that when he isn't cranky he is a good football poster. I just laugh now though because the Pats fans are mostly being defensive about a tainted super bowl.

[shawn306]

That isn't true. He is just back from a 60 day stint I believe. And our post counts were at a record high. We definitely are past the point of needing anything to be instigated. I like Tx personally and know that when he isn't cranky he is a good football poster. I just laugh now though because the Pats fans are mostly being defensive about a tainted super bowl.

 

When are they not defensive about tainted Super Bowls ? 

 

I count at least 4 now

 

throw in an AFC Divsional Playoff loss to the Jets in their own yard and they can get pretty cranky around here.

[drdetroit]

great post, but doubt he cares

When Brady gets on his private jet tonight to go bang 5 of the hottest chicks on the planet in the skyline marquis loft in MGM Grand I don't think he'll care about some internet boys calling him a cheater.

[jgb]

When Brady gets on his private jet tonight to go bang 5 of the hottest chicks on the planet in the skyline marquis loft in MGM Grand I don't think he'll care about some internet boys calling him a cheater.

 

best part is she comes with an on/off switch on her lower back. perfect woman.

[New York Mick]

she has zero butt....yuck

She has zero anything. Last time I seen that shape it was in a black and white photo.

[New York Mick]

When Brady gets on his private jet tonight to go bang 5 of the hottest chicks on the planet in the skyline marquis loft in MGM Grand I don't think he'll care about some internet boys calling him a cheater.

No but he does care about his peers, HOFers, sport writers and former coaches calling him one.

[Maxman]

When are they not defensive about tainted Super Bowls ? 

 

I count at least 4 now

 

throw in an AFC Divsional Playoff loss to the Jets in their own yard and they can get pretty cranky around here.

 

So true Shawn!

[PFSIKH]

That isn't true. He is just back from a 60 day stint I believe. And our post counts were at a record high. We definitely are past the point of needing anything to be instigated. I like Tx personally and know that when he isn't cranky he is a good football poster. I just laugh now though because the Pats fans are mostly being defensive about a tainted super bowl.

 

I was j/k Max...don't get your...never mind. 

[PatsFanTX]

I was j/k Max...don't get your...never mind. 

Don't go there PFSIKH.

I don't want my legacy tainted.

[Maxman]

Don't go there PFSIKH.

I don't want my legacy tainted.

 

Undepants and taint in the same post. Double word score.

[JiFtheOracle]

 

This whole scandal is not even a central issue here. Tom Bradys behavior is not a central issue. The whole "Deflategate" scandal and the way its being discussed in the media  is just further proof that the Sports Media complex is either completely missing the point, dumber even than we think they are, or are actively parsing this thing down to a level that it can be looked at in a vacuum.

 

All we've learned through this whole thing that should possibly be "new" to anyone is that Tom Brady is a liar, a cheater, and of poor character, but if you were paying attention to this guy years ago and the way he comported himself personally, you would have already known he was an entitled, selfish, spoiled brat who has zero Integrity or Character.

 

The biggest thing that should be discussed today is the fact that Tom Bradys behavior in this whole scandal was FOSTERED by the very CULTURE of the Patriots. That he thought it was OK, and he was doing nothing wrong because according to the "Patriot Way" cheating for an advantage was to be lauded - and if you were caught, you throw away a line about "not completely understanding the rules", or blame a "Process", and that it must have been somebody else and you had no knowledge of the activities and move on. 

 

Bill Bellichick learned his lesson in Cleveland. You can work your ass off, put in more hours than anyone else, be detail oriented and innovative and run your team in a new fashion, but if you have average talent on the team, you have to watch Morons like Barry ******* Switzer and Bill Parcells win Championships while you get fired and see your team pick up and move to a new town.

 

Billy Boy wasn't ever going to let that happen again.

 

As I said in another thread:

 

 

 

 

 

And the "Media" is actively going out of their way to ignore this fact and to pretend that this was an ISOLATED INSTANCE. And that "Spygate" while being on the rap sheet of this Franchise, was also an isolated incident. But that couldn't be further from the truth.

 

This team is built around "pushing the envelope of the rules", be it on the field or off. Don't have the CBs to hang with receivers? Hold them and beat them up - they "Can't call them all". Have crappy Wide Receivers? Roll out a formation that pushes the boundaries of the rules....without verifying the play with the league beforehand to see if its actually legal (the common practice that all other teams follow). Need to slow down a hurryup offense? Lay on the ground and feign injury. This is seen as "clever" by those with NO INTEGRITY, but its CHEATING. PERIOD. 

 

 

There can be NO "Benefit of the Doubt" with this team, because this team THRIVES on capitalizing on benefit of the doubt. The same people in the media that tell us how "Brilliant" Bellichick are will be the same fools that buy his line that he "Didn't know the process", or "Misunderstood the rule". 

 

The New England Patriot "Way" is simply institutional, glorified, hidden in plain sight CHEATING, and the story SHOULD BE that Tom Brady, a Future HOF'er felt Comfortable enough to tarnish his own legacy by Cheating in the most inglorious and low class manner, lying about it in a smug and arrogant press conference, and then relying on the fact that they have ALWAYS gotten away with it, because thats what the Patriots have ALWAYS done, and up till now they have always GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT. So why should this be any different for them?

 

 

Well said.  Summed the whole thing up perfectly.  

[Savage69]

Well said.  Summed the whole thing up perfectly.  

In 2006, Brady and Peyton Manning successfully lobbied the league to let every team provide its own footballs to use on offense. Prior to that, it was always the home team that supplied the footballs, which meant that road team quarterbacks didn’t get to try the footballs out until pregame warmups.

Brady said at the time that he appreciated the opportunity to address the league’s Competition Committee and get a rule change that he felt would be advantageous to himself and other quarterbacks.