BowlesMovement Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Anyone listen to the interview? It was interesting, most of it was around Meyers, but there was an interesting tidbit about Rex from Bart. He said that when he was the DC in Baltimore, he always knew the defensive players contracts and bonus incentives, and he would always do everything he could to get the player that bonus. He mentioned calling all out blitzes all games for guys, switching positions, etc. Have to assume this really pissed off Baltimore, and was a big reason he was passed over for HC there. Just found it interesting, and also explains a lot why players love him, other than him acting more like a fraternity brother than a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 So Rex has always been ready to screw the FO....just like he did for us making max effort to win meaningless games while on his way out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 16 minutes ago, BowlesMovement said: Anyone listen to the interview? It was interesting, most of it was around Meyers, but there was an interesting tidbit about Rex from Bart. He said that when he was the DC in Baltimore, he always knew the defensive players contracts and bonus incentives, and he would always do everything he could to get the player that bonus. He mentioned calling all out blitzes all games for guys, switching positions, etc. Have to assume this really pissed off Baltimore, and was a big reason he was passed over for HC there. Just found it interesting, and also explains a lot why players love him, other than him acting more like a fraternity brother than a HC. I think that is a stretch honestly. I don't think anyone should have any issue with giving an employee every opportunity to hit their bonuses. IMO Baltimore passed up on him because they didn't want a blustering buffoon representing their team at the highest coaching level. EDIT: I could see it being an issue if you know, Baltimore didn't have a top 10 defense with Rex. Obviously it was working, players play at 200% probably when they know more money is on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 14 minutes ago, BowlesMovement said: Anyone listen to the interview? It was interesting, most of it was around Meyers, but there was an interesting tidbit about Rex from Bart. He said that when he was the DC in Baltimore, he always knew the defensive players contracts and bonus incentives, and he would always do everything he could to get the player that bonus. He mentioned calling all out blitzes all games for guys, switching positions, etc. Have to assume this really pissed off Baltimore, and was a big reason he was passed over for HC there. Just found it interesting, and also explains a lot why players love him, other than him acting more like a fraternity brother than a HC. wow, talk about a coach focusing on the wrong goals and outcomes... good grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 15 minutes ago, JETSfaninNE said: I think that is a stretch honestly. I don't think anyone should have any issue with giving an employee every opportunity to hit their bonuses. IMO Baltimore passed up on him because they didn't want a blustering buffoon representing their team at the highest coaching level. EDIT: I could see it being an issue if you know, Baltimore didn't have a top 10 defense with Rex. Obviously it was working, players play at 200% probably when they know more money is on the line. It's awful. You do what's best to help your team win the game. Personal goals should have NO place whatsoever in a DC's thought process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: It's awful. You do what's best to help your team win the game. Personal goals should have NO place whatsoever in a DC's thought process. But are you arguing he didn't put the players in the best position to be successful? I mean his defenses were really good with Baltimore. The rotating and standing up of players and not knowing or being able to predict who blitzes is the foundation of Rex's defense. I just personally think this is a stretch to equate this to the reason Baltimore didn't hire him as HC. I'm pretty sure it had 90% to do with his personality and lack of experience on the offensive side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me when I first started here..." - Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because of anyone had said anything to me when I first started here..." - Rex "If I had known that kind of thing was frowned upon...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, JETSfaninNE said: But are you arguing he didn't put the players in the best position to be successful? I mean his defenses were really good with Baltimore. The rotating and standing up of players and not knowing or being able to predict who blitzes is the foundation of Rex's defense. I just personally think this is a stretch to equate this to the reason Baltimore didn't hire him as HC. I'm pretty sure it had 90% to do with his personality and lack of experience on the offensive side of the ball. Hmm Maybe that's why the Giants let Vince Lombardi go to Green bay.. He didn't know Defence..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 The Ravens knew what it took Woody 6 years to figure out....Rex is a buffoon who is not a head coach. It had nothing to do with bonus goals. And I can't believe I responded yet again to another Rex thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 FWIW - this is not uncommon at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Hmm Maybe that's why the Giants let Vince Lombardi go to Green bay.. He didn't know Defence..LOL Mangini > Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Mangini > Rex Yep you always have to love a HC that never won a playoff game and someone you used to call Ratgini for spilling the beans about BB's cheating ways.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Yep you always have to love a HC that never won a playoff game and someone you used to call Ratgini for spilling the beans about BB's cheating ways.. He was still a better HC than Bozo the Clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Mangini better than Rex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 If Mangini and Rex had a baby, it would be the ugliest mofo of all time, but a pretty damn good coach if it got the right DNA of each of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Here it comes... seriously, Sun Tzu should make the "2 AFCC Game Appearances" an addendum to the Art of War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, BowlesMovement said: If Mangini and Rex had a baby, it would be the ugliest mofo of all time, but a pretty damn good coach if it got the right DNA of each of them. I will especially enjoy the part of the megababy's childhood when blaming Brian Schottenheimer for all its lack of grade school success is now twice as strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Here it comes... seriously, Sun Tzu should make the "2 AFCC Game Appearances" an addendum to the Art of War. Great analogy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Interview link: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/05/13/boomer-carton-bart-scott-gets-some-things-off-his-chest/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 The idea that Mangini is better than Rex makes absolutely no sense. Rex took the Jets to two consecutive AFC Championship games, come on now. Rex had many many flaws and should have been controlled and not deferred to IMO but he was an ok HC when he had strong assistants and veteran leadership. So at the end of the day Rex' ceiling was and is much higher than Mangini but so is his floor much lower as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: He was still a better HC than Bozo the Clown. So maybe he makes the HOF without ever winning a playoff game?? But they could have a bust of him sneaking behind BB's ratting him out.. 12 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 28 minutes ago, JETSfaninNE said: But are you arguing he didn't put the players in the best position to be successful? I mean his defenses were really good with Baltimore. The rotating and standing up of players and not knowing or being able to predict who blitzes is the foundation of Rex's defense. I just personally think this is a stretch to equate this to the reason Baltimore didn't hire him as HC. I'm pretty sure it had 90% to do with his personality and lack of experience on the offensive side of the ball. I agree with the bolded....I just think it's entirely unprofessional to make game time decisions based upon anything other than winning games. If you're making a concerted effort to highlight a specific player then you can't be doing your job properly. I think Baltimore didn't hire him because they knew he was a bafoon. And they didn't want their organization to be a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 18 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: He was still a better HC than Bozo the Clown. no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 The idea that Mangini is better than Rex makes absolutely no sense. Rex took the Jets to two consecutive AFC Championship games, come on now. Yea, with teams Mangini built. BTW CB, Rex lost both those games with a team totally unprepared to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Rex and Tanny was just a bad combination. Maybe, just maybe with the right type of Front Office and a clear structure Rex could be more successful but him and Tanny were just too much alike and there was no adult in the room to ever say no. They both were more interested in headlines and being too well liked to be leaders. That's why Rex excelled as a D-Coordinator but has been just an average head coach he had a head coach in Baltimore who was looking at the big picture of what's best for the team instead of what's best for Rex's ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 1 hour ago, BowlesMovement said: Anyone listen to the interview? It was interesting, most of it was around Meyers, but there was an interesting tidbit about Rex from Bart. He said that when he was the DC in Baltimore, he always knew the defensive players contracts and bonus incentives, and he would always do everything he could to get the player that bonus. He mentioned calling all out blitzes all games for guys, switching positions, etc. Have to assume this really pissed off Baltimore, and was a big reason he was passed over for HC there. Just found it interesting, and also explains a lot why players love him, other than him acting more like a fraternity brother than a HC. I think Baltimore passed on him because he's a terrible coach, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Just now, PatsFanTX said: Yea, with teams Mangini built. BTW CB, Rex lost both those games with a team totally unprepared to play. I agree. I am not a Rex apologist but Mangini has yet to even reach that level of possibility. Yes Rex lost the big game twice but Mangini was never even in the big game or even in the victory parade for a playoff win. Was Mangini awful? No.. But as a HC Rex was a better than the Mangenius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Yea, with teams Mangini built. BTW CB, Rex lost both those games with a team totally unprepared to play. The team that Mangini built and couldn't win with even in a year when Brady was out and the QB he cut for Favre won the east taking a 1-15 team to 11-5?? As usual Tex your making perfect sense.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I agree. I am not a Rex apologist but Mangini has yet to even reach that level of possibility. Yes Rex lost the big game twice but Mangini was never even in the big game or even in the victory parade for a playoff win. Was Mangini awful? No.. But as a HC Rex was a better than the Mangenius. Mangini was fired after going 9-7. Rex was fired after going 4-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: Mangini was fired after going 9-7. Rex was fired after going 4-12. And the 49'ers fired George Seifert after going 12-4 winning 2 bowls and never having a record worse then 10-6.. I guess him and Mangini are on the same level IYO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: "Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me when I first started here..." - Rex Co-Stanza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 And the 49'ers fired George Seifert after going 12-4 winning 2 bowls and never having a record worse then 10-6.. I guess him and Mangini are on the same level IYO.. Did Mangini have Steve Young and Jerry Rice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 44 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: The idea that Mangini is better than Rex makes absolutely no sense. Rex took the Jets to two consecutive AFC Championship games, come on now. Rex had many many flaws and should have been controlled and not deferred to IMO but he was an ok HC when he had strong assistants and veteran leadership. So at the end of the day Rex' ceiling was and is much higher than Mangini but so is his floor much lower as well. Ultimately, who cares ... they both contributed to the past decade of futility. What benefit is there to splitting hairs over who failed harder. They both ate a dick. The Jets are so overdue to hit on a QB and a first-time HC. Law of averages and sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Did Mangini have Steve Young and Jerry Rice? winning a SB with Steve Young was not easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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