Costello on beningo and Roberts

[joewilly12]

Just now, UnitedWhofans said:

You're missing the point.

i'm gettIng into his head. This is his thought process. It worked last year, and late in the year, so teams should have adjusted by then. So he probably believes the scheme is hard to defend if executed properly

He fails to adjust the game plan not a good tendency for a head coach to have especially one that we need to be successful. 

[UnitedWhofans]

1 minute ago, Matt39 said:

He had some ridiculous excuse on top of it too, which wasn't all that believable. Bowles is by the book to the point he doesnt even realize he's being an idiot.

But everybody liked the hire. Media likes it, Fans liked it

[UnitedWhofans]

Just now, joewilly12 said:

He fails to adjust the game plan not a good tendency for a head coach to have especially one that we need to be successful. 

I didn't say it was. This is his thought process

[Pac]

3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

******* Woody... he hired Rex all over again, without the egg-in-the-face soundbytes.

I hate to say it, but Rex would get more out of this defense too.

At least the bad years under Rex were watchable/entertaining.  It also didn't hurt that he had the best 2 year run you've ever seen.

This filth we're watching now is horrible football coupled with boring personalities.  It's all the more aggravating knowing that a few of us knew this would happen and e-begged the Jets not to re-sign Fitz.

Bowles, Rodgers, and Gailey have about as much combined charisma as a sloth taking a long sh-t.  (whatever that means)

[Integrity28]

7 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said:

Edwards won the division

You are good at Google.

[dbatesman]

7 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said:

But everybody liked the hire. Media likes it, Fans liked it

What does that have to do with anything?

[PatsFanTX]

Costello basically reiterated the Jets run their gameplan regardless of opponent. 

If that is true, Bowles should be fired immediately.

[Integrity28]

1 minute ago, Pac said:

At least the bad years under Rex were watchable/entertaining.  It also didn't hurt that he had the best 2 year run you've ever seen.

This filth we're watching now is horrible football coupled with boring personalities.  It's all the more aggravating knowing that a few of us knew this would happen and e-begged the Jets not to re-sign Fitz.

Bowles, Rodgers, and Gailey have about as much combined charisma as a sloth taking a long sh-t.  (whatever that means)

Nobody knew this would happen.

Some of you whined that Fitz sucks, and then purported a ton of bad logic about Geno. Nobody forecast a complete disaster on defense. 

Even the Fitz supporters knew we'd lose some games we shouldn't with him. The hope was that with the way the team rallied around him, the chemistry would carry us further than struggling through a season of Geno. And make no mistake, Geno would be a different version of the same problem we're having here.

Anyway... I'm going to buy a PS4 for Sundays. This blows.

[UnitedWhofans]

8 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

What does that have to do with anything?

In this town? A lot.

[UnitedWhofans]

BTW, you can t blame Woody. He leaned on Casserly and Ron Wolf. Which is what he should do

[southparkcpa]

Just now, UnitedWhofans said:

BTW, you can t blame Woody. He leaned on Casserly and Ron Wolf. Which is what he should do

Sad but true... he seems to have tried the right way but he is snake bit. MAC's resume tells us he should be a great GM. Bowles???  All that experience?  

I have no explanation for his short comings.

[Larz]

2 hours ago, southparkcpa said:

Fixed.

I know we are all angry monkeys throwing our feces around this week, but basically all coaches specialize on one side of the ball. 

[southparkcpa]

5 minutes ago, Larz said:

I know we are all angry monkeys throwing our feces around this week, but basically all coaches specialize on one side of the ball. 

I find it hard to believe that  to the degree you mention. I have read 2 books by Parcells and he talks a LOT of offense.  

If your offense is sputtering, you get involved.  

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, southparkcpa said:

I find it hard to believe that  to the degree you mention. I have read 2 books by Parcells and he talks a LOT of offense.  

If your offense is sputtering, you get involved.  

Ironically our defense is sputtering and longtime friend of Bowles Kacy Rodgers is at the helm and Bowles chooses to ignore it all and just feed us gibberish pressers filled with nonsense. 

[Larz]

4 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

I find it hard to believe that  to the degree you mention. I have read 2 books by Parcells and he talks a LOT of offense.  

If your offense is sputtering, you get involved.  

of course they understand the other side, they just aren't qualified to tinker

is andy reid calling blitzes ?  nope, too busy talking to the offense about the next series

you just made my original point for me, if he doesn't know anything about the offense he should stay the ****  away from it 

[joewilly12]

Chris Christie was on Boomer and Carton defending Bowles 

[Smashmouth]

2 hours ago, Larz said:

on the other hand, if has had no idea what the hell is going on with the offense, do we want him over riding chan ?

 

 

 

if you cant provide input on both sides of the ball you don't deserve to be a head coach

[jetscrazey]

A head coach who only wants to pay attention to one side of the ball isn't really a head coach.

[peekskill68]

I wonder if these guys are available...

 

 

[T0mShane]

2 hours ago, tkiss24 said:

 

Joe mentioned that Costello told him that Bowles is less hands on with the offense than Rex was. Costello said handbag is all chan, with Bowles not even chiming in on run or pass decisions. To me this is the worst part of all. Your a head coach. I hated Rex for spending time talking to defensive lineman while the offense operated poorly. As the head coach you need to be overseeing everything and not spending all your time with one side of the ball (it's even worse when you consider how bad things defense has been).

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The problem wasn't that Rex didn't involve himself in the offense. The problem was that he considered the offense to be somebody else's problem. 

[T0mShane]

2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

It's the cycle of bad teams in this league. Promote coordinator---->fire coordinator and then do it again expecting a different result. What the **** goes on in these interviews anyway? 

The Jets at some point have to put someone firmly in charge of the entire operation...whether it be a HC who's been a HC or President of Football Ops and cut out this halfway bullsh*t. Bowles with the plausible deniability when it comes to the offense or punting when it's basically mathematically impossible to win the game once you do it....enough. Fire his ass.

I agree with this 100%. Is there anyone in the building this week who's in charge? Maccagnan is likely watching Alabama tape and Bowles is somewhere telling Marcus Gilchrist how he used to defend against Phil Simms.

[Integrity28]

7 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I agree with this 100%. Is there anyone in the building this week who's in charge? Maccagnan is likely watching Alabama tape and Bowles is somewhere telling Marcus Gilchrist how he used to defend against Phil Simms.

I've reached the point where I want Gary Vaynerchuk to buy the Jets. 

[greenwave81]

3 hours ago, Larz said:

on the other hand, if has had no idea what the hell is going on with the offense, do we want him over riding chan ?

 

 

 

Exactly.

We can just re-institute Rex's 'Red light, yellow light, green light' system.

[greenwave81]

50 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

I find it hard to believe that  to the degree you mention. I have read 2 books by Parcells and he talks a LOT of offense.  

If your offense is sputtering, you get involved.  

I remember distinctly at one point when Parcells was here that he took over the Offensive play calling from Dan Henning I believe.  And the Offense improved.

[southparkcpa]

49 minutes ago, Larz said:

of course they understand the other side, they just aren't qualified to tinker

is andy reid calling blitzes ?  nope, too busy talking to the offense about the next series

you just made my original point for me, if he doesn't know anything about the offense he should stay the ****  away from it 

But if they weren't  scoring more than 17 a game, near nothing in 2nd half , turning it over , he would get involved.  IF the D was giving up more long plays than a French whore, playing sloppy, he would get involved. 

 

[southparkcpa]

7 minutes ago, greenwave81 said:

I remember distinctly at one point when Parcells was here that he took over the Offensive play calling from Dan Henning I believe.  And the Offense improved.

Please tell Lars. ?

[greenwave81]

Just now, southparkcpa said:

Please tell Lars. ?

Maybe he'll read this...about Parcells AND Coughlin...two FOOTBALL coaches.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/08/sports/pro-football-parcells-is-calling-plays-to-balance-jets-attack.html?_r=0

 

[southparkcpa]

52 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Chris Christie was on Boomer and Carton defending Bowles 

Bowles probably gave him his tickets to the free breakfast at the team hotel. 

[PatsFanTX]

I remember distinctly at one point when Parcells was here that he took over the Offensive play calling from Dan Henning I believe.  And the Offense improved.

That was Charlie Weiss, not Henning.

[Matt39]

58 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I agree with this 100%. Is there anyone in the building this week who's in charge? Maccagnan is likely watching Alabama tape and Bowles is somewhere telling Marcus Gilchrist how he used to defend against Phil Simms.

Funny thing about all of this is I couldn't care much less about the Jets losing games this year. The teams not that good. But if Bowles honestly thought that the Jets could simply line up and out execute Pittsburgh or Seattle he might as well start cleaning out his desk now.

Only hope is that either Parcells or Maccagnan is in his ear telling him you probably don't want to punt there, but I doubt it.

[UnknownJetFan]

OK, off topic slightly, but I'll bring up something I don't think was mentioned yet on this forum. I wonder if we are going to return the favor to Rex by beating his Bills the last game with us having no shot at the playoffs and his team needing that last game to qualify for the post season. Then he gets fired right afterward since he missed the playoffs his 2nd year at Bills and had to make it to keep his job. 

[dbatesman]

1 minute ago, UnknownJetFan said:

OK, off topic slightly, but I'll bring up something I don't think was mentioned yet on this forum. I wonder if we are going to return the favor to Rex by beating his Bills the last game with us having no shot at the playoffs and his team needing that last game to qualify for the post season. Then he gets fired right afterward since he missed the playoffs his 2nd year at Bills and had to make it to keep his job. 

This would be a totally meaningless achievement that would also cost us draft position and make Woody feel like the team's on the right track, so there's a 100% chance it's happening.

[T0mShane]

16 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Funny thing about all of this is I couldn't care much less about the Jets losing games this year. The teams not that good. But if Bowles honestly thought that the Jets could simply line up and out execute Pittsburgh or Seattle he might as well start cleaning out his desk now.

Only hope is that either Parcells or Maccagnan is in his ear telling him you probably don't want to punt there, but I doubt it.

If Parcells was in his ear, there'd be a bunch of showy cuts and demotions this week as retribution for the leaks in the building about players not working hard enough. Even Mangini would have wacked a few special teamers.

[T0mShane]

18 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Funny thing about all of this is I couldn't care much less about the Jets losing games this year. The teams not that good. But if Bowles honestly thought that the Jets could simply line up and out execute Pittsburgh or Seattle he might as well start cleaning out his desk now.

Only hope is that either Parcells or Maccagnan is in his ear telling him you probably don't want to punt there, but I doubt it.

Also, I want to not care about this season, but I'm not particularly hopeful for next season, either. 

[JohnnyLV]

Not sure I 100% believe thus, because I am pretty positive Gailey would start Geno over Fitz. Of course Bowles might just be forcing Fitz on Gailey and has no other involvement. He needs to be fired.