KRL Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 With Maccagnan's history in HOU the following players could/should be targets: AJ Bouye - young CB who seems to be ascending, was very impressive against OAK http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/16562/aj-bouye Ryan Griffin TE - he's a TE, enough said http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/15887/ryan-griffin John Simon LB - possible David Harris replacement? http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/16010/john-simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Bouye should definitely be a target this offseason. Take Revis' money and sign him. He's young and effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Or maybe we could just draft our own middling players instead of paying them double what they're worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 If Brian Cushing LB is a free agent i can see them signing him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 This regime has added 3 candidates at TE who all have potential and are all younger and cheaper . Adding another youngster via the draft to the TE Room is a viable option, but spending huge cap money to acquire one should not be an option . It's the opinion of this poster that the Jets could possibly solve all their linebacker issues by drafting an edge rusher this spring and moving Jordan Jenkins inside alongside Lee . The new kid(Charles Harris) or whoever is your favorite would team with either Mauldin or Bishop on the outside with the loser being the primary backup . The aforementioned TE candidates are : ASJ Eric Tomlinson Braedon Bowman Those 3 replaces : Kellen Davis Jace Amaro Brandon Bostick That's an upgrade and a big upgrade IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 37 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Or maybe we could just draft our own middling players instead of paying them double what they're worth. This. Fraud Agency sucks... Fix the scouting department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, RoadFan said: This. Fraud Agency sucks... Fix the scouting department. Fraud agency is how the Giants are playing Super Bowl caliber defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 out of 10 works out... the Giants batting average in the off-season is an exception, not the rule. And you know that... Plus, the Giants are not in total rebuild mode. They have a QB, and a superstar WR. Fraud Agency didn't exactly produce results for Jacksonville. The point is teams grossly overpay for mediocrity. And you know that too... Playing Devil's Advocate on this subject is tunnel vision, not the big picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 CB looked good yesterday and is a weak link here. Macc has a bad habit of over paying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 57 minutes ago, RoadFan said: This. Fraud Agency sucks... Fix the scouting department. You have to sign Free Agents it's part of the game. You just have to make the right choices. When rebuilding you sign youth and only youth. No-one over 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: You have to sign Free Agents it's part of the game. You just have to make the right choices. When rebuilding you sign youth and only youth. No-one over 28. Exactly. This team needs A LOT of help. Six or seven draft picks and a few UDFAs isn't gonna get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Like AFJF said, we need a No 1 CB, a FS, and a Pass rushing OLB. Then on O we need LT, C, RB, QB, with TE and WR a little lesser priority since we have some depth there. Currently 6 draft picks and UDFAs are not going to fill enough of those holes. Not that we expect to fill every hole in 1 year with a great player at those positions and you can still fill some holes with FAs and also draft that position as well. I am thinking some of the more critical positions on O and D of LT, CB, etc we will need some FAs that are good and under 28 years old if Mac can get them. At QB a trade or FA is needed, but I hope we don't trade a draft pick. I'd rather trade like Sheldon R. for someone's backup that has good potential like Cincy's Maccaron. The positions of RB, C, OLB, etc probably should be draft picks. We don't want to reach for LTs and such since that is a weak position in the higher rounds of this draft. Perhaps a decent FA and later round draft pick for LT would be in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 3 hours ago, AFJF said: Exactly. This team needs A LOT of help. Six or seven draft picks and a few UDFAs isn't gonna get it done. The Jets teams as it sits right now need to get rid of Sheldon Richardson or Brandon Marshall or both, find a functional QB and either a safety who can cover and make a hit or a pass rusher who can get to the QB and we will be fine while we continue to build . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 19 minutes ago, Tinstar said: The Jets teams as it sits right now need to get rid of Sheldon Richardson or Brandon Marshall or both, find a functional QB and either a safety who can cover and make a hit or a pass rusher who can get to the QB and we will be fine while we continue to build . The Jets currently have 10 players due to become UFA's. If they trade Sheldon and/or Brandon, that's 1 or 2 more slots. At least a few big money vets will be let go (Revis, Mangold, Harris, Skrine) They may re-sign a few of the guys due to become UFA's, but basically looking at roughly a dozen roster spots to fill up the 53. Unless they go with double-digit rookies via the draft and UDFAs, they're gonna' have to sign some free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Jets could potentially end up with about 60m in cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 4 hours ago, RoadFan said: 1 out of 10 works out... the Giants batting average in the off-season is an exception, not the rule. And you know that... Plus, the Giants are not in total rebuild mode. They have a QB, and a superstar WR. Fraud Agency didn't exactly produce results for Jacksonville. The point is teams grossly overpay for mediocrity. And you know that too... Playing Devil's Advocate on this subject is tunnel vision, not the big picture. there are two things. first most teams will use free agents because it's hard to draft the really good players. each team needs to churn at least 10 bodies each year. the second point is that the slary cap mandates that a certain percentage (maybe 80%) be spent so there's no reason leaving unspent money. this will necessarily go to free agents. i do agree that overeliance on them is not a good thing. teams need to build a home grown culture, players that buy into being on the team they are on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, rangerous said: there are two things. first most teams will use free agents because it's hard to draft the really good players. each team needs to churn at least 10 bodies each year. the second point is that the slary cap mandates that a certain percentage (maybe 80%) be spent so there's no reason leaving unspent money. this will necessarily go to free agents. i do agree that overeliance on them is not a good thing. teams need to build a home grown culture, players that buy into being on the team they are on. Reasonable points. I understand you have to use free agency to fill out the roster. My problem with it is you are getting very little bang for your buck. Sign a Dwayne Harris. Not a Jairus Byrd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Guys, MacCagnan worked for the Texans. So, obviously he's going to want all of the players Rick Smith drafted, but isn't re-signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Guys, MacCagnan worked for the Texans. So, obviously he's going to want all of the players Rick Smith drafted, but isn't re-signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 45 minutes ago, AFJF said: The Jets currently have 10 players due to become UFA's. If they trade Sheldon and/or Brandon, that's 1 or 2 more slots. At least a few big money vets will be let go (Revis, Mangold, Harris, Skrine) They may re-sign a few of the guys due to become UFA's, but basically looking at roughly a dozen roster spots to fill up the 53. Unless they go with double-digit rookies via the draft and UDFAs, they're gonna' have to sign some free agents. Agreed, but what I posted still holds true . We could potentially have 3 starters via the draft at key positions next season . We don't need Revis and Richardson is a luxury we can afford to lose . We have already replaced Mangold IMO, and Harris can be replaced by Jordan Jenkins if the Jets get an edge rusher in the draft . The key player for the 2017 season will be the QB . We have to find someone serviceable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: Jets could potentially end up with about 60m in cap space Which is why Mac deserved another year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Guys, MacCagnan worked for the Texans. So, obviously he's going to want all of the players Rick Smith drafted, but isn't re-signing. What comes into play are all the players available from all the teams in Houston's division whom they play 2 times every yr . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 6 hours ago, dbatesman said: Or maybe we could just draft our own middling players instead of paying them double what they're worth. Have you been watching the dreaded crap the Jets have been drafting the LAST TEN YEARS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 8 hours ago, AFJF said: Exactly. This team needs A LOT of help. Six or seven draft picks and a few UDFAs isn't gonna get it done. If Mac grows a brain the Jets are in the playoffs next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 8 hours ago, RoadFan said: 1 out of 10 works out... the Giants batting average in the off-season is an exception, not the rule. And you know that... Plus, the Giants are not in total rebuild mode. They have a QB, and a superstar WR. Fraud Agency didn't exactly produce results for Jacksonville. The point is teams grossly overpay for mediocrity. And you know that too... Playing Devil's Advocate on this subject is tunnel vision, not the big picture. Free agency is fine you just have to be smart about who you give big money to. The Giants don't make the playoffs without signing Snacks this past offseason and giving him a contract people like you made fun of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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