TANKING Nightmare.. the NFL isn’t built to handle widespread tanking ~ ~ ~

[kelly]

>  https://theringer.com/nfl-tanking-nightmare-new-york-jets-cleveland-browns-competitive-balance-6c9f3937811b

[jeremy2020]

Ahh, the old let's look for solutions to a non-existent problem because in theory it could possibly maybe be a problem....someday

[jamesr]

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four wins and the no. 1 pick is worth a lot more than six victories and something outside the top 10. 

Last time a team got the #1 pick with 4 wins? 2003 ... and the tie-breakers between the FOUR 4-12 teams can't have been all that easy to predict.

[Larz]

Stop being lazy and post the articles with a comment or opinion dude

[kelly]

1 hour ago, Larz said:

Stop being lazy and post the articles with a comment or opinion dude

dear Larz,

hi !.. i apol. for not posting the artice. i'm having " computer issues ".

cheers !..  kelly ~ ~

 

p.s.  btw,.. yes, i am Lazy  but if i can.. i do post the articles when i can   

[kelly]

Here's what Sam Darnold thinks about Jets perhaps tanking for him

>    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/07/heres_what_sam_darnold_thinks_about_jets_perhaps_t.html#incart_river_index

[kelly]

Tanking in Professional Sports: Ethically Acceptable ?

The process of “tanking” by a professional team in order to enhance its draft position presents an interesting ethical question.  First, by tanking, I mean the situation where a professional team intentionally does not use its best available players in a contest.  I am not saying that the players who actually participate in the game(s) give less than their best effort.  I am saying that management and coaches make a decision that they will use relatively inferior players in a game, even though better players are healthy and available, and even though that course of action is more likely to result in a loss.The justification used is sometimes that of “looking to see what we have for the future,” or “wanting to make sure that we don’t aggravate an injury,” but it’s typically clear that the team in question has given up on the season and wants to position itself most favorably for the upcoming draft.  Of course, this raises the question as to who will win when two teams jockeying for favorable draft position play each other.

In the NFL, perhaps the most recent notable example of alleged tanking took place in the 2011-12 season, when Andrew Luck of Stanford was the presumed top pick in waiting in the 2012 draft. Here is one prominent talk-show host’s take on the matter at the time, and he was not alone in his opinion that it is fine for a team to set itself up to underperform if by doing so there is a chance to land a top player.I do not recall hearing any of those analysts say that the greater ethical good is realized when an NFL team maximizes its effort game in and game out, even if that produces middling results.  In fact, during Luck’s senior year, I recall hearing many NFL analysts discuss the desirability of a team landing Luck even at the cost of setting itself up to have a terrible season.

We often hear that the worst place for a professional team is in the vast no-man’s land of mediocrity. While coaches in the college ranks are praised for producing teams that appear to over-achieve, and college programs viewed as overachievers are looked up to by the media and the public, it seems that the opposite is true in the professional ranks.  Of course, the player draft provides a carrot for struggling teams at the professional level, while no such process for rewarding failure exists at the college level, and the structure of the draft would appear to drive unethical sporting behavior.History demonstrates that all of us (owners, GM’s, coaches, players and fans) are prepared to leave our ethics at the door when we enter the domain of professional sports, at least in terms of our expectations for teams’ putting forth a genuine effort to win every game. Would we accept a high school or college team setting itself up to lose?  I doubt it.  Why do we accept it at the professional level? I think it’s because we are seduced by visions of a better future, visions of a franchise savior who will come to us through the draft.

Of course, while we fans are putting up with an inferior product while our team positions itself for a more favorable draft outcome, I don’t think we should hold our breaths waiting for our team to lower its prices for parking, concessions, souvenirs or tickets.Many fans participated in sports as youngsters. We were always taught that it is essential to maximize our effort on every play in every game. If we were lucky, we were also taught that there are other values in addition to success on the scoreboard (see Jim Thompson’s book on the Double-Goal Coach for the ideal approach to youth coaching). I find it ironic that at the professional level, where it’s supposed to be clear what we’re all about (“Just win, baby” as Al Davis used to say), we are fine with a “Just lose, baby” approach if it helps our draft position.

Perhaps changing the rules of the drafts in professional sports to reduce the reward for failure would result in a more ethical approach to the spirit of competition. I’d sure be willing to see a different draft model. How about you?

>    http://law.scu.edu/sports-law/tanking-in-professional-sports-ethically-acceptable/

[Beerfish]

Number of NFL tanking articles in the last 25 years = 1

Number of tanking articles once the NY Jets actually go into true rebuild mode = 10,000

F'ck all of these articles.

[kdels62]

2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Number of NFL tanking articles in the last 25 years = 1

Number of tanking articles once the NY Jets actually go into true rebuild mode = 10,000

F'ck all of these articles.

For real. If we land a franchise qb and win a little bit the whole country is gonna be reading or hearing about the Jets. It's weird but our laughing stock, b- level franchise would be a damn godsend to the NFL if we became good.

[NoBowles]

As much as I'd love to see a tank job, I just don't think it is. It's really a rebuild that should have happened two years ago. Cutting overpriced, underperforming vets is not tanking.

[ASH1962]

To me, tanking is like stealing money from patrons. If players played for free and the fans were admitted for free and they wanted to tank a season to get a player then fine, but considering the huge money they charge for everything, that to me is akin to stealing. The fact that fans have to now buy the rights to be a STH and if you bow out, lose that money is more fuel to the fire that they would be stealing your money this season by not trying to compete. Having said that, the guys that we have will not lose on purpose, there is no way. They may not have the talent to compete and may have the worst HC DC and ST in NFL history, but I firmly believe that they will try at least which is more than  can say for last seasons garbage heap.

I don't care what anyone says about Woody, he would never authorize a "Tank job" to lose games on purpose. For all of his faults, he does want to win as much as us fans do.

[BurnleyJet]

I can't believe everyone in the NFL  thinks we are tanking,

The Jets can't win when we try. We have no QB, and we a Roster full of young ?, we aren't tanking, we are just not very good. 

[The Crusher]

Pretty much all but 4 teams a year are pretty much tanking. Parody be damn. 

[nicg4360]

I really am not a fan of tanking and don't think the jets are doing it. I look at it as more of an evaluation year to see what they have going forward.
With that said...being a fan of the NHL, I have witnessed first hand watching one of your very own high profile players save a franchise that being Austin Matthews with my Leafs and take them from last place to the playoffs in his first year. If a qb can impact the jets...you gotta do what you gotta do.

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[Bugg]

Mario Lemieux says hello. Sidney crosby, Conor McDavid, Austin Matthews, Patrick Ewing, John Elway, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Peyton Manning too. 

[Tony MaC]

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First, by tanking, I mean the situation where a professional team intentionally does not use its best available players in a contest.  I am not saying that the players who actually participate in the game(s) give less than their best effort.  I am saying that management and coaches make a decision that they will use relatively inferior players in a game, even though better players are healthy and available, and even though that course of action is more likely to result in a loss.

Well its a good thing we're not doing that, not that we could since the season hasn't started.

When we bench Leo or any other productive young player in December THEN we can talk about how the team is tanking. Otherwise its just a case of some national prognosticators and fans running around like chickens with their heads cut calling a rebuild an honest to god attempt to suck.

 

[JoJoTownsell1]

When you make rules that benefit QBs and thereby limiting the chance of a team winning with defense and a running game then this is what you get. 

While the Jets aren't "tanking", they also didn't do everything in their power to put together a team that can win the most games possible. Call it a rebuild, call it tanking, call it youth movement, the ultimate outcome will be the same. 

[nycdan]

22 hours ago, ASH1962 said:

I don't care what anyone says about Woody, he would never authorize a "Tank job" to lose games on purpose. For all of his faults, he does want to win as much as us fans do.

He's moving across the Atlantic Ocean to get away from here for the season.  

[kelly]

On 7/14/2017 at 5:24 PM, BurnleyJet said:

I can't believe everyone in the NFL  thinks we are tanking,

The Jets can't win when we try. We have no QB, and we a Roster full of young ?, we aren't tanking, we are just not very good. 

..we suck !

[BurnleyJet]

1 hour ago, kelly said:

..we suck !

Cheer up Kelly, I think the kids will make us at least watchable.