southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Josh Allen 61.5% 16 TDs 8 INTs 88.3 QBR Baker Mayfield 60.0% 15 TDs 14 INTs 79.9 QBR Sam Darnold 63.0% 13 TDs 10 INTs 84.0 QBR What's the issue here? I see none. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 What about the MVP? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Larz said: What about the MVP? outlier. apples to apples. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post batman10023 Posted December 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 Baker has the best roster - he should be killing it. I would not trade Sam straight up for any of these other two. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, batman10023 said: Baker has the best roster - he should be killing it. I would not trade Sam straight up for any of these other two. bingo. he's keeping pace with his two contemporaries. Lamar Jackson can't be compared. No one wanted him, everyone passed on him. Compare Sam to Josh and Baker and you get a nice, solid conclusion: the kid is RIGHT where he's supposed to be. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, southtown24th said: outlier. apples to apples. So what exactly is an apple 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 bring it on haters. numbers do not lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 so are you just going to make a thread about this every 20 minutes or what 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 show me numbers that support your case vs. second year QBs who were NOT supposed to be wide receivers. let's have it...I will wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Allen and Jackson are improving Mayfield and Darnold are the same guy this year as last year Rosen doesn’t seem to have what it takes I’m hopeful that Sam can be the guy but it’s back to back games of hesitation and missed opportunities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Larz said: Allen and Jackson are improving Mayfield and Darnold are the same guy this year as last year Rosen doesn’t seem to have what it takes I’m hopeful that Sam can be the guy but it’s back to back games of hesitation and missed opportunities. Mayfield has gone BACKWARDS. Sam has progressed. Period. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 don't read this https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/jets-lead-league-in-lost-players-to-the-ir/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 or this Note: WR Josh Bellamy - Reserve/Injured LB Blake Cashman - Reserve/Injured RB Trenton Cannon - Reserve/Injured WR Quincy Enunwa - Reserve/Injured TE Chris Herndon - Reserve/Injured DL John Franklin-Myers - Reserve/Injured CB Trumaine Johnson - Reserve/Injured OL Ryan Kalil - Reserve/Injured LB Albert McClellan - Reserve/Injured S Rontez Miles - Reserve/Injured LB C.J. Mosley - Reserve/Injured OL Brent Qvale - Reserve/Injured QB Trevor Siemian - Reserve/Injured LB Avery Williamson - Reserve/Injured G Brian Winters - Reserve/Injured 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, southtown24th said: or this Note: WR Josh Bellamy - Reserve/Injured LB Blake Cashman - Reserve/Injured RB Trenton Cannon - Reserve/Injured WR Quincy Enunwa - Reserve/Injured TE Chris Herndon - Reserve/Injured DL John Franklin-Myers - Reserve/Injured CB Trumaine Johnson - Reserve/Injured OL Ryan Kalil - Reserve/Injured LB Albert McClellan - Reserve/Injured S Rontez Miles - Reserve/Injured LB C.J. Mosley - Reserve/Injured OL Brent Qvale - Reserve/Injured QB Trevor Siemian - Reserve/Injured LB Avery Williamson - Reserve/Injured G Brian Winters - Reserve/Injured How bad do you think the Albert McClellan injury has hurt Darnold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, dbatesman said: How bad do you think the Albert McClellan injury has hurt Darnold pick and choose for your narrative. cute. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, southtown24th said: Mayfield has gone BACKWARDS. Sam has progressed. Period. Sam is inconsistent. I get that gase is as well and his supporting cast is bad. The last 2 games have been similar in that Sam is holding the ball and it’s coming out late. His pocket awareness hasn’t been at the level we’ve seen before. Anderson was winning immediately and getting serious separation. He should have had a monster game today. Is it ok to point out Sam’s mistakes? I really like a lot of his game and remain optimistic about his future btw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Larz said: Sam is inconsistent. I get that gase is as well and his supporting cast is bad. The last 2 games have been similar in that Sam is holding the ball and it’s coming out late. His pocket awareness hasn’t been at the level we’ve seen before. Anderson was winning immediately and getting serious separation. He should have had a monster game today. Is it ok to point out Sam’s mistakes? I really like a lot of his game and remain optimistic about his future btw. point them out all day. but to say he "sucks" or he's "bad" or he's "horrible" i just blind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estang74 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Allen isn’t progressing like you think. He’s still super inconsistent with his throwing. He looked awful most of the first half of the Ravens game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, southtown24th said: point them out all day. but to say he "sucks" or he's "bad" or he's "horrible" i just blind. We can agree on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, Larz said: Allen and Jackson are improving Mayfield and Darnold are the same guy this year as last year Rosen doesn’t seem to have what it takes I’m hopeful that Sam can be the guy but it’s back to back games of hesitation and missed opportunities. ?? Mayfield is regressing in every category. Darnold is improving in every category. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, Larz said: Allen and Jackson are improving Mayfield and Darnold are the same guy this year as last year Rosen doesn’t seem to have what it takes I’m hopeful that Sam can be the guy but it’s back to back games of hesitation and missed opportunities. Mayfield has regressed like crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Saul Goodman said: ?? Mayfield is regressing in every category. Darnold is improving in every category. This is the Baker love fest board. They don’t even bother to watch highlights of games if they did they would know Baker was horrible today despite getting the win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 50 minutes ago, dbatesman said: so are you just going to make a thread about this every 20 minutes or what I asked him to make one every 15 minutes but your request seems reasonable, so I will PM him now and change it to 20. Good call. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Can't really compare apples to apples when Darnold has a roster that is far crappier than the other 2 QBs listed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, estang74 said: Allen isn’t progressing like you think. He’s still super inconsistent with his throwing. He looked awful most of the first half of the Ravens game. bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Maxman said: Can't really compare apples to apples when Darnold has a roster that is far crappier than the other 2 QBs listed. facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 He is badly handicapped by awful talent and an awful awful head coach offensive 'guru' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: He is badly handicapped by awful talent and an awful awful head coach offensive 'guru' He is 22. Everyone knows that a QB stops learning at 21.5. Its over lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonaldJet Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 All three should have drafted Lamar. Allen is a stud, but he’s completing less than 25 percent of passes that travel 20+ yds in the air. The Ravens definitely exposed him a bit today with their game plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Maxman said: He is 22. Everyone knows that a QB stops learning at 21.5. Its over lol. this is just stupid man. it makes no sense. I really don't get the vitriol toward the young man who is showing signs and coming along...slow and steady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, RonaldJet said: All three should have drafted Lamar. Allen is a stud, but he’s completing less than 25 percent of passes that travel 20+ yds in the air. The Ravens definitely exposed him a bit today with their game plan. Everyone keeps saying Lamar’s style of play is unsustainable I actually think that is more applicable to Allen who also loves to run with the ball Lamar Jackson can run without taking a lot of contact. Allen runs like a truck and draws contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 In the end, Sam Darnold has won us more games than he’s lost as QB. Put down the booze and the pot everyone, it’s getting late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Stop, you are falling for the troll trap. FYI Darnold has 15 TDs 11 INTs and Baker has 16 INTs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said: In the end, Sam Darnold has won us more games than he’s lost as QB. Put down the booze and the pot everyone, it’s getting late. bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, southtown24th said: bring it on haters. numbers do not lie. But they can certainly be used selectively and incorrectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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