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Josh Allen

61.5% 

16 TDs

8 INTs

88.3 QBR

Baker Mayfield

60.0%

15 TDs

14 INTs

79.9 QBR

Sam Darnold

63.0%

13 TDs

10 INTs

84.0 QBR

 

What's the issue here?  I see none.

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5 minutes ago, southtown24th said:

outlier.

apples to apples.

So what exactly is an apple 

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show me numbers that support your case vs. second year QBs who were NOT supposed to be wide receivers.

let's have it...I will wait.

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Allen and Jackson are improving 

Mayfield and Darnold are the same guy this year as last year

Rosen doesn’t seem to have what it takes 

I’m hopeful that Sam can be the guy but it’s back to back games of hesitation and missed opportunities. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, Larz said:

Allen and Jackson are improving 

Mayfield and Darnold are the same guy this year as last year

Rosen doesn’t seem to have what it takes 

I’m hopeful that Sam can be the guy but it’s back to back games of hesitation and missed opportunities. 
 

 

Mayfield has gone BACKWARDS.

Sam has progressed.

Period.

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or this

Note:

WR Josh Bellamy - Reserve/Injured
LB Blake Cashman - Reserve/Injured
RB Trenton Cannon - Reserve/Injured
WR Quincy Enunwa - Reserve/Injured
TE Chris Herndon - Reserve/Injured
DL John Franklin-Myers - Reserve/Injured
CB Trumaine Johnson - Reserve/Injured
OL Ryan Kalil - Reserve/Injured
LB Albert McClellan - Reserve/Injured
S Rontez Miles - Reserve/Injured
LB C.J. Mosley - Reserve/Injured
OL Brent Qvale - Reserve/Injured
QB Trevor Siemian - Reserve/Injured
LB Avery Williamson - Reserve/Injured
G Brian Winters - Reserve/Injured

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8 minutes ago, southtown24th said:

or this

Note:

WR Josh Bellamy - Reserve/Injured
LB Blake Cashman - Reserve/Injured
RB Trenton Cannon - Reserve/Injured
WR Quincy Enunwa - Reserve/Injured
TE Chris Herndon - Reserve/Injured
DL John Franklin-Myers - Reserve/Injured
CB Trumaine Johnson - Reserve/Injured
OL Ryan Kalil - Reserve/Injured
LB Albert McClellan - Reserve/Injured
S Rontez Miles - Reserve/Injured
LB C.J. Mosley - Reserve/Injured
OL Brent Qvale - Reserve/Injured
QB Trevor Siemian - Reserve/Injured
LB Avery Williamson - Reserve/Injured
G Brian Winters - Reserve/Injured

How bad do you think the Albert McClellan injury has hurt Darnold

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3 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

How bad do you think the Albert McClellan injury has hurt Darnold

pick and choose for your narrative.

cute.

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9 minutes ago, southtown24th said:

Mayfield has gone BACKWARDS.

Sam has progressed.

Period.

Sam is inconsistent. I get that gase is as well and his supporting cast is bad. 

The last 2 games have been similar in that Sam is holding the ball and it’s coming out late. His pocket awareness hasn’t been at the level we’ve seen before. 
Anderson was winning immediately and getting serious separation. He should have had a monster game today. 

Is it ok to point out Sam’s mistakes?  
 

I really like a lot of his game and remain optimistic about his future btw. 

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Just now, Larz said:

Sam is inconsistent. I get that gase is as well and his supporting cast is bad. 

The last 2 games have been similar in that Sam is holding the ball and it’s coming out late. His pocket awareness hasn’t been at the level we’ve seen before. 
Anderson was winning immediately and getting serious separation. He should have had a monster game today. 

Is it ok to point out Sam’s mistakes?  
 

I really like a lot of his game and remain optimistic about his future btw. 

point them out all day.

but to say he "sucks" or he's "bad" or he's "horrible" i just blind.

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Allen isn’t progressing like you think. He’s still super inconsistent with his throwing. He looked awful most of the first half of the Ravens game. 

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7 minutes ago, southtown24th said:

point them out all day.

but to say he "sucks" or he's "bad" or he's "horrible" i just blind.

We can agree on that 

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29 minutes ago, Larz said:

Allen and Jackson are improving 

Mayfield and Darnold are the same guy this year as last year

Rosen doesn’t seem to have what it takes 

I’m hopeful that Sam can be the guy but it’s back to back games of hesitation and missed opportunities. 
 

 

?? Mayfield is regressing in every category. Darnold is improving in every category. 

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29 minutes ago, Larz said:

Allen and Jackson are improving 

Mayfield and Darnold are the same guy this year as last year

Rosen doesn’t seem to have what it takes 

I’m hopeful that Sam can be the guy but it’s back to back games of hesitation and missed opportunities. 
 

 

Mayfield has regressed like crazy

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Just now, Saul Goodman said:

?? Mayfield is regressing in every category. Darnold is improving in every category. 

This is the Baker love fest board.  They don’t even bother to watch highlights of games if they did they would know Baker was horrible today despite getting the win

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50 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

so are you just going to make a thread about this every 20 minutes or what

I asked him to make one every 15 minutes but your request seems reasonable, so I will PM him now and change it to 20.

Good call.

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Can't really compare apples to apples when Darnold has a roster that is far crappier than the other 2 QBs listed.

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17 minutes ago, estang74 said:

Allen isn’t progressing like you think. He’s still super inconsistent with his throwing. He looked awful most of the first half of the Ravens game. 

bingo!

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4 minutes ago, Maxman said:

Can't really compare apples to apples when Darnold has a roster that is far crappier than the other 2 QBs listed.

facts

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3 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

He is badly handicapped by awful talent and an awful awful head coach offensive 'guru'

He is 22. Everyone knows that a QB stops learning at 21.5.  Its over lol.

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All three should have drafted Lamar.

Allen is a stud, but he’s completing less than 25 percent of passes that travel 20+ yds in the air. The Ravens definitely exposed him a bit today with their game plan. 

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Just now, Maxman said:

He is 22. Everyone knows that a QB stops learning at 21.5.  Its over lol.

this is just stupid man.  it makes no sense.  I really don't get the vitriol toward the young man who is showing signs and coming along...slow and steady.  

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1 minute ago, RonaldJet said:

All three should have drafted Lamar.

Allen is a stud, but he’s completing less than 25 percent of passes that travel 20+ yds in the air. The Ravens definitely exposed him a bit today with their game plan. 

Everyone keeps saying Lamar’s style of play is unsustainable I actually think that is more applicable to Allen who also loves to run with the ball

 

Lamar Jackson can run without taking a lot of contact.  Allen runs like a truck and draws contact

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Stop, you are falling for the troll trap.

FYI Darnold has 15 TDs 11 INTs and Baker has 16 INTs

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6 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

In the end, Sam Darnold has won us more games than he’s lost as QB.

Put down the booze and the pot everyone, it’s getting late.

bingo!

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1 hour ago, southtown24th said:

bring it on haters.

numbers do not lie.

But they can certainly be used selectively and incorrectly.

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