section314 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Was listening to Anita Marks yesterday. I find her a pretty good listen. She had on a guy(whose name escapes me) who was an NFL scout for 30 years for the Giants. In his mind, he had Tua rated a distant 3rd behind Burrow and Herbert. Chief reason was that Burrow and Herbert did more with less. He said his honest opinion was that Tua is not a difference maker like the other two guys are. Thinks he can be good, but not great. Pretty damning evaluation for a QB you take 5th overall. I wanted her to ask him about Sam, but it never came up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Who needs a take. Just watch him play today. Bound to more interesting that watching the Jets play, frankly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 It's health. We shall see how well he plays, but he was hurt a lot at Alabama, even with top talent around him and not getting rushed the way he will in the NFL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_O_Brien Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Say some out there that reckon the Phins are giving Tua a 10-game audition. Hence the QB change at 3-3. If Tua stinks, they may consider drafting another QB if the Houston pick is in the top 4 range? Seems kind of far out there that could move on from Tua so quickly but if that Houston pick could be used on Fields or somone, why not flip Tua for picks? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 i heard that the phins actually think he's better than fitz (which isn't hard to believe) and that they feel since they're in a good position Tua will take them to the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 50 minutes ago, section314 said: Was listening to Anita Marks yesterday. I find her a pretty good listen. She had on a guy(whose name escapes me) who was an NFL scout for 30 years for the Giants. In his mind, he had Tua rated a distant 3rd behind Burrow and Herbert. Chief reason was that Burrow and Herbert did more with less. He said his honest opinion was that Tua is not a difference maker like the other two guys are. Thinks he can be good, but not great. Pretty damning evaluation for a QB you take 5th overall. I wanted her to ask him about Sam, but it never came up. Well TL has a stacked team...is that damning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ben Had said: Well TL has a stacked team...is that damning? When Tua went out, the backup QB came in and they really didn't miss a beat.You did see Clemson yesterday with their backup, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, section314 said: When Tua went out, the backup QB came in and they really didn't miss a beat.You did see Clemson yesterday with their backup, right? Yea... Uiagalelei finished with 341 passing yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions, including turning the game in the third quarter with a 30-yard touchdown run on a fourth down and hitting Amari Rodgers for an eight-yard touchdown. He finished 30-for-41 passing on the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, section314 said: Was listening to Anita Marks yesterday. I find her a pretty good listen. She had on a guy(whose name escapes me) who was an NFL scout for 30 years for the Giants. In his mind, he had Tua rated a distant 3rd behind Burrow and Herbert. Chief reason was that Burrow and Herbert did more with less. He said his honest opinion was that Tua is not a difference maker like the other two guys are. Thinks he can be good, but not great. Pretty damning evaluation for a QB you take 5th overall. I wanted her to ask him about Sam, but it never came up. Best prospects in the work will flame-out in the wrong environment, while nobodies can thrive in the right one. It’ll be interesting to see how each of the Bengals, Chargers and Dolphins support their rookie QBs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ben Had said: Yea... Uiagalelei finished with 341 passing yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions, including turning the game in the third quarter with a 30-yard touchdown run on a fourth down and hitting Amari Rodgers for an eight-yard touchdown. He finished 30-for-41 passing on the day. He had a nice game. My point is it was a very interesting observation for a scout to say that he didn't think a guy taken that high, especially at the QB position, isn't a difference maker. As a matter of fact, I don't think I've ever heard that said . Nothing against Tua, just thought it was so different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Well...I think today's game will tell. He's had 6 games and a by week to prepare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 33 minutes ago, Ben Had said: Well TL has a stacked team...is that damning? Pretty much every top college QB prospect comes from a stacked team - except....Josh Allen - I didnt just go there did I? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ben Had said: Well...I think today's game will tell. He's had 6 games and a by week to prepare. Tell what ? He's a rookie who will be making his 1st NFL start. You'd base he's future outlook on today's game ? Seriously? Glad you weren't around when Peyton started out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 1 hour ago, section314 said: Was listening to Anita Marks yesterday. I find her a pretty good listen. She had on a guy(whose name escapes me) who was an NFL scout for 30 years for the Giants. In his mind, he had Tua rated a distant 3rd behind Burrow and Herbert. Chief reason was that Burrow and Herbert did more with less. He said his honest opinion was that Tua is not a difference maker like the other two guys are. Thinks he can be good, but not great. Pretty damning evaluation for a QB you take 5th overall. I wanted her to ask him about Sam, but it never came up. Not a difference maker? Alabama would have won the championship with a healthy Tua at QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fleming Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, deucebag said: - I didnt just go there did I? One’s effort to solve a problem starts with recognizing and admitting the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 50 minutes ago, Ben Had said: Yea... Uiagalelei finished with 341 passing yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions, including turning the game in the third quarter with a 30-yard touchdown run on a fourth down and hitting Amari Rodgers for an eight-yard touchdown. He finished 30-for-41 passing on the day. Was the fumble on the goal line handoff his fault? That was a 14 point swing right there. He fumbled and he was sacked. The game would have been a blowout with Lawrence in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS jets Fan Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Well that's his medical file so that might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Looking forward to seeing Tua play. I think he will be good if he stays healthy, but he definitely has major durability concerns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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