Biggs Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, JohnnyLV said: It's tough for the Bills to even get to the playoffs from what I am hearing, Basically need to win out. they can still win the division. They have a great chance to run the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 5 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said: Tyreek Hill. Guys probably going to hit 2k receiving yards and is more important to his team than most of these guys. CMC is worthy too. They’ll probably give to a QB though. The problem with non-QB mvp candidates is that QB is by far a more valuable position. Miami looked just fine without Hill. 49ers would be fine without McCaffrey. MVP should almost always go to a QB. OPOY is different. Give that to the guy who performs best relative to his position. MVP: It’s Lamar for me. But won’t argue against Purdy OPOY: It’s Hill for me. But won’t argue against McCaffrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defensedoesntgetyoulaid Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 49 minutes ago, JohnnyLV said: Problem with Allen is he is also the reason they have lost 6 times. The playoff game last year suggests SF might not be that good without Purdy. You have to look back through a different lens. I'm not going to advocate Allen as MVP because that would be too fan boyish of me and I don't want to be a Tony Romo. BUT it is interesting looking at a team like cincy who lose their superstar QB and some scrub comes in and keeps them winning. Now I'm not saying Burrow isn't great but as Biggs says, the Bills would struggle to win a game if Allen went down. And I don't think he's responsible for 6 losses. The game against the Jets 100% but in several losses this year (Broncos, Pats, Eagles) he left the field at the end with his team in the lead and it was the defense that failed to hold. But obviously he has no chance at the MVP unless he plays lights out the final 3 weeks and doesn't throw a pick, which isn't going to happen. As much as I hate him, I'd give the award to Hill. Maybe CMC. Purdy gets a lot of flack for being a system QB but he's been playing at an insane level, though it doesn't help his cause when you see guys getting so wide open they can trip, fall over, stand up and still catch the pass for an uncontested TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 All I know is if someone from the Niners win it....it better be McCaffery! Lamar and Hill are deserving as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Tyreek Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 36 minutes ago, slimjasi said: The 49ers players themselves would tell you McCaffrey is their MVP They don't vote for NFL MVP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 34 minutes ago, GreenFish said: The problem with non-QB mvp candidates is that QB is by far a more valuable position. Miami looked just fine without Hill. 49ers would be fine without McCaffrey. MVP should almost always go to a QB. OPOY is different. Give that to the guy who performs best relative to his position. MVP: It’s Lamar for me. But won’t argue against Purdy OPOY: It’s Hill for me. But won’t argue against McCaffrey See, I just think this is totally wrong. Miami looked "just fine" without Tyreek because they were playing the Jets. If they lose Tyreek for the playoffs it would have huge ramifications. 9ers looked totally different without CMC earlier this year. To each his own, but giving an above average QB the "MVP" award because he's the QB of an elite offense and not the best, most valuable player on that offense makes zero sense whatsoever. Tyreek and CMC are move valuable to their teams than Tua and Purdy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: purdy throws 3 yard passes and his weapons take it 50 to 60 yards. Purdy, who was called "a game manager" by former league MVP Cam Newton last week, leads the NFL in the following metrics: yards per pass attempt (9.9), passing touchdowns (29), touchdown-to-interception ratio (29-7), passer rating (119.0) and expected points added/play among qualified quarterbacks (0.32). He is even on pace to break the NFL's all-time record for passing yards per attempt in a season among those who have thrown a minimum of 375 passes. He's even selfless, saying McCaffrey should be the MVP. "I think Christian should be the MVP," Purdy said postgame Sunday, via KNBR. "I really do believe that. He does everything for us. Runs the ball well. Can catch the ball. He does everything, so in my eyes that's an MVP. I'm the guy that hands him the ball off and then turns back and watches what he does. Hate to disagree with the MVP, but he's the clear-cut choice for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: See, I just think this is totally wrong. Miami looked "just fine" without Tyreek because they were playing the Jets. If they lose Tyreek for the playoffs it would have huge ramifications. 9ers looked totally different without CMC earlier this year. To each his own, but giving an above average QB the "MVP" award because he's the QB of an elite offense and not the best, most valuable player on that offense makes zero sense whatsoever. Tyreek and CMC are move valuable to their teams than Tua and Purdy. But the Jets defense has been good all year. They’ve made great QBs look average. The Jets suck because of the offense. The last part is true though. It’s a difference of opinion. It doesnt make sense to you but does to me. In my view, Miami is still an elite offense without Hill. They wont be without Tua. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, defensedoesntgetyoulaid said: I'm not going to advocate Allen as MVP because that would be too fan boyish of me and I don't want to be a Tony Romo. BUT it is interesting looking at a team like cincy who lose their superstar QB and some scrub comes in and keeps them winning. Now I'm not saying Burrow isn't great but as Biggs says, the Bills would struggle to win a game if Allen went down. And I don't think he's responsible for 6 losses. The game against the Jets 100% but in several losses this year (Broncos, Pats, Eagles) he left the field at the end with his team in the lead and it was the defense that failed to hold. But obviously he has no chance at the MVP unless he plays lights out the final 3 weeks and doesn't throw a pick, which isn't going to happen. As much as I hate him, I'd give the award to Hill. Maybe CMC. Purdy gets a lot of flack for being a system QB but he's been playing at an insane level, though it doesn't help his cause when you see guys getting so wide open they can trip, fall over, stand up and still catch the pass for an uncontested TD Well the way the schedule lies it is quite possible Miami loses out and Buffalo wins out and Allen would have a good chance to win it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 17 hours ago, New York Mick said: Who do you guys think is the MVP this year. Obviously it’s no one from the Jets especially not Zach Wilson so I’ll save you the time of posting it. It should be McCaffrey but Purdy or Jackson will probably win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 CJ Stroud. He is the Texans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: CJ Stroud. He is the Texans. Is the award supposed to be given to the most valuable player in the NFL or the most valuable player on an individual team. Stroud is definitely not the most valuable player in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Should be CMac, for sure. Just another kick to the Panthers while they're down. What an absolute trainwreck of a year this has been for them. Trade your best players for draft picks ... then screw up the draft picks.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 purdy throws 3 yard passes and his weapons take it 50 to 60 yards. Whereas we throw passes 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage and hope our weapons can turn them into positive gains. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 If ravens win this weekend it's Lamar Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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