Lith Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/8/2024 at 4:45 PM, section314 said: This current staff is all 3-4 types. Senga. is at best a 2. In today's game, you can win with a bunch of 3/4 starters if you have one ace and a great bullpen. I am hoping maybe Senga can be that ace, but I don't think the bullpen is close to the level it needs to be at given the weakness of the rotation. I think its gonna be a tough year, but if they really commit to developing young guys, I can live with that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 1/12/2024 at 12:27 PM, Lith said: In today's game, you can win with a bunch of 3/4 starters if you have one ace and a great bullpen. I am hoping maybe Senga can be that ace, but I don't think the bullpen is close to the level it needs to be at given the weakness of the rotation. I think its gonna be a tough year, but if they really commit to developing young guys, I can live with that. I think next year is supposed to be a great year for free agency. The Mets will probably be very active then. But it's kind of lame that they don't seem to be adding too much talent this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Couple of good articles in the NY post. First, good Qand A with Doc and Straw by Serby. Second, good article by Joel Sherman on Alonso and his Mets future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 23 hours ago, section314 said: good article by Joel Sherman on Alonso and his Mets future. Tough call on Pete. I would love to keep him but Boros is a greedy MF. 5 yr. deal might not be enough for him and I dont think I'd want to go beyond that. Boros probably looking for a 10 yr. deal to get Pete to 39 yo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 59 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Tough call on Pete. I would love to keep him but Boros is a greedy MF. 5 yr. deal might not be enough for him and I dont think I'd want to go beyond that. Boros probably looking for a 10 yr. deal to get Pete to 39 yo. Agree. Nothing is ever easy with Boras. 5years would be great .We’ll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Pete Crow Armstrong is tied with two other guys as the 4th best odds to win NL Rookie of the year at+900🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Billy Wagner got screwed . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 hours ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: Billy Wagner got screwed . Yes. He was dominant for a long time, which used to be the main criteria for getting in. Before the anal hole ilitics crowd took over. Hall of Fame now has been terribly tarnished, almost to the point of not having to be elite anymore. Two guys got in this year who had 2,200 hits. It’s turning into the hall of good not great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 When do the Mets sign Trevor Bauer ? We need a starter and he's inexpensive . Cmon Uncle Stevie . Pull the trigger . Show some cojones . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/23/2024 at 10:31 AM, section314 said: Pete Crow Armstrong is tied with two other guys as the 4th best odds to win NL Rookie of the year at+900🤣 Remember when the idiots were all crowing about how the Mets acquired "El Mago"? What a disaster! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Adam Ottavino returns to Mets on 1 yr. $4.5 mil deal after opting out of his $6.75 mil player option a few months ago. Thanks Adam! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 30 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Adam Ottavino returns to Mets on 1 yr. $4.5 mil deal after opting out of his $6.75 mil player option a few months ago. Thanks Adam! This POS was shot two years ago. Horrible 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 9 hours ago, section314 said: This POS was shot two years ago. Horrible Pitched to a 2.06 era with 6-3 record in 2022 setting up for Diaz with 3 saves. Last year was bad, but no longer pitching the 9th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 12 hours ago, 32EBoozer said: Adam Ottavino returns to Mets on 1 yr. $4.5 mil deal after opting out of his $6.75 mil player option a few months ago. Thanks Adam! HE SUCKSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said: HE SUCKSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!! Yet, he’s our best option in the 8th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Quite an offseason by the Mets so far. Seems like it's all bargain basement signings and we're punting this year away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 21 hours ago, 32EBoozer said: Yet, he’s our best option in the 8th. Uncle stevie has turned into Stevie coupons . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 Mets bullpen appears to be decent, with of course Diaz being the big addition. But, we know how bullpens go. Really would like to add a veteran bat for DH. Then pray the starting pitching holds up with some luck. Defense should be much better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said: Mets bullpen appears to be decent, with of course Diaz being the big addition. But, we know how bullpens go. Really would like to add a veteran bat for DH. Then pray the starting pitching holds up with some luck. Defense should be much better. Seems like Stearns doesn’t want to take AB’s from Vientos and Baty. Hopefully they both get 450+ this year. Wonder also is Marte may figure in DH picture if not ready to play full time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, section314 said: Seems like Stearns doesn’t want to take AB’s from Vientos and Baty. Hopefully they both get 450+ this year. Wonder also is Marte may figure in DH picture if not ready to play full time? Both will get until June to show that they’ve earned his trust… if not, trade deadline acquisition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 On 2/2/2024 at 5:58 PM, 32EBoozer said: Both will get until June to show that they’ve earned his trust… if not, trade deadline acquisition If they are in the race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Bobby Witt just signed for 11/288. The Lindor contract is honestly looking like one of the best value contracts in baseball at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 I keep hearing complaints about the Mets not spending more and signing free agents. Like they have unlimited budget. Actually they are about 100 million over the cap and right now total player budget over 300 million. Which is at the top of MLB. So Cohen is rich but he's not crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 On 2/5/2024 at 1:44 PM, RutgersJetFan said: Bobby Witt just signed for 11/288. The Lindor contract is honestly looking like one of the best value contracts in baseball at this point. I don't even understand baseball salaries anymore. Plus isn't it odd that even the KC Royals are suddenly shelling out for a contract like this? What is going on with baseball? Are ticket prices going to quadruple? Who is going to pay for that? Baseball already has an attendance problem, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 8 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I don't even understand baseball salaries anymore. Plus isn't it odd that even the KC Royals are suddenly shelling out for a contract like this? What is going on with baseball? Are ticket prices going to quadruple? Who is going to pay for that? Baseball already has an attendance problem, no? No. Revenue has gone way up for them. Contracts have gotten longer because it lowers AAV. Guys like Witt get deals like that now because he’ll likely be worth double that in 5 years. He’s an absolute stud. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 31 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: No. Revenue has gone way up for them. Contracts have gotten longer because it lowers AAV. Guys like Witt get deals like that now because he’ll likely be worth double that in 5 years. He’s an absolute stud. What was the driver of revenue going up though? I thought baseball has been changing its rules to speed up the game (and make the postseason more like other sports) to cater to younger fans (who I thought MLB kind of hasn't been getting). All of a sudden though, MLB salaries have made a huge leap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 33 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: No. Revenue has gone way up for them. Contracts have gotten longer because it lowers AAV. Guys like Witt get deals like that now because he’ll likely be worth double that in 5 years. He’s an absolute stud. Great point. As was mentioned earlier in this thread, Lindor now looks underpaid.😁These long term mega deals are mostly for mid 20,s guys as to be expected. That is something that is going to be a rude awakening for the soon to be 30 Alonzo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 43 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: What was the driver of revenue going up though? I thought baseball has been changing its rules to speed up the game (and make the postseason more like other sports) to cater to younger fans (who I thought MLB kind of hasn't been getting). All of a sudden though, MLB salaries have made a huge leap. A main reason for the rule changes was to increase attendance, which happened as they set a record for ticket revenue last year and they had the largest annual jump in attendance since expansion. The rest of it is sponsorship revenue from stuff like digital dugout ads, jersey ads...etc. MLB salaries making a huge leap makes a ton of sense given revenues exploded and there is no reason to think that won't continue, at least in the short term. The game is booming. They should have instituted the pitch clock decades ago. There are some movements to get this current younger generation to games (i.e. Cohen and his college student ticket idea), but IMO I think the new generation of young children will really be into the game simply because they are going to grow up going to games more than Gen Z'ers did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 47 minutes ago, section314 said: Great point. As was mentioned earlier in this thread, Lindor now looks underpaid.😁These long term mega deals are mostly for mid 20,s guys as to be expected. That is something that is going to be a rude awakening for the soon to be 30 Alonzo. The Braves were real trail blazers with it and it seems like the new norm. I wonder if the Mets do the same if guys like Acuna and Gilbert shine after getting called up. Alvarez maybe too. The whole stretching guys through arbitration thing that the Mets have done is on the outs. For a guy like Witt it's such a gamble because in a linear sense he's really leaving like $150-200 million on the table long-term. But, you really have to take the deal if you are in his shoes. Guys wash out (unlikely with him) or get hurt...etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 10 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: The Braves were real trail blazers with it and it seems like the new norm. I wonder if the Mets do the same if guys like Acuna and Gilbert shine after getting called up. Alvarez maybe too. The whole stretching guys through arbitration thing that the Mets have done is on the outs. For a guy like Witt it's such a gamble because in a linear sense he's really leaving like $150-200 million on the table long-term. But, you really have to take the deal if you are in his shoes. Guys wash out (unlikely with him) or get hurt...etc. The Indians did it too in the mid 90’s with Baerga Lofton, Bell, Thome. Kept them together for 4-5 years and had a great run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 minutes ago, section314 said: The Indians did it too in the mid 90’s with Baerga Lofton, Bell, Thome. Kept them together for 4-5 years and had a great run. I don't think Belle would have even lasted a year in today's game, lol. Oh to be a player before everyone had a camera. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: The Braves were real trail blazers with it and it seems like the new norm. I wonder if the Mets do the same if guys like Acuna and Gilbert shine after getting called up. Alvarez maybe too. The whole stretching guys through arbitration thing that the Mets have done is on the outs. For a guy like Witt it's such a gamble because in a linear sense he's really leaving like $150-200 million on the table long-term. But, you really have to take the deal if you are in his shoes. Guys wash out (unlikely with him) or get hurt...etc. The Braves are the one of the best run organizations in MLB (if not #1) and are the model all teams should try to copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said: The Braves are the one of the best run organizations in MLB (if not #1) and are the model all teams should try to copy. I think there are multiple ways to build a championship franchise that’s sustainable and the Braves are the best at executing that one way. The one thing that universally works no matter what method you’re using is a top farm system. Get that down and the team can do anything they want. Ex. Baltimore is going to lose a lot of their guys going forward and they will likely survive most of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maynard13 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I like Alonso. BUt Iwouldnt sign him long term. He's already 30? Yes he has elite power BUT strikes out way to much and isnt a very clutch hitter. I've been a Mets fan going back to early 60's so I've been arond the block. Alonso often hits a lot of meaningless HR's. And his defense is really a liability. He's just not worth 30 millioon a year or whatever outrageous number his PR team is asking. The Mets are drastically changing their approach and adopting a speed, defense style of baseball. Alonso does not fit into this scheme. Plus, the Mets dsperately need to re-invigorate their farm sytem. That has begun with the trades of Scherzer and Verlander last year. So 2024 is a pass. big deal. We havent won a WS since 1986. Thats 38 years ago. Time flies. Settig this team up for the near future and planting it with youth and talent is a smart approach. they can trade Alonso and get a nice haul. They desperately need young arms. Desperately. First base is a positon which is probably the least 'important' in baseball. The writing is on the wall. Alonso will be traded soon and its the smart move to make. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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