Ghost Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Clearly the MVP of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 PRO BOWL!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Is now the best CB in the NFL. Don't even try to argue. You will look silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Clearly the MVP of the game. Kris Jenkins with the honorable mention. Kerry Rhodes also had a good game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 He can share it with Jenkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 He is the MVP of the last 24 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Best player on this team by far... imo.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Even still, Jenkins gets the MVP for me. We're just a different team with him in there, he's unreal. Revis though is developing into the best CB in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Revis should easily win DPOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Kris Jenkins with the honorable mention. Kerry Rhodes also had a good game today. Where are all the people who called out Rhodes? Just because he doesn't have the stats does not mean he's not playing well. Saved a huge TD today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldemdomer2290 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Revis and Jenkins should both make the pro bowl. No question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Revis and Jenkins should both make the pro bowl. No question To be honest I don't care, it means NOTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 two game sealing ints in 8 games is damn impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 two game sealing ints in 8 games is damn impressive Take a look at what no 1 WR's have done against the jets this year. He is a COMPLETE shutdown corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Revis should easily win DPOW. tell that to aec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Where are all the people who called out Rhodes? Just because he doesn't have the stats does not mean he's not playing well. Saved a huge TD today. Definitely. Deflection in the end zone. Man, i'm really happy with the way we played today. Our defense started off with miscommunication but we were flatout dominant on defense today. We contained Lynch and Evans. Forced turnovers, had sacks and pressures. This is the first game where we didn't play sloppy all season. This is the first time in a very long time where our play call improved on the road in Buffalo. Watch a CPF game in buffalo made me want to scratch my eyes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Take a look at what no 1 WR's have done against the jets this year. He is a COMPLETE shutdown corner. Has been that way for a long time now. This man needs to be a Jet for his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 He can share MVP with Jenkins but Revis is an absolute monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 BEWARE OF THE DOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Where are all the people who called out Rhodes? Just because he doesn't have the stats does not mean he's not playing well. Saved a huge TD today. I'm here. If you think that making some plays today automatically means we were wrong you have sample size issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Definitely. Deflection in the end zone. Man, i'm really happy with the way we played today. Our defense started off with miscommunication but we were flatout dominant on defense today. We contained Lynch and Evans. Forced turnovers, had sacks and pressures. This is the first game where we didn't play sloppy all season. This is the first time in a very long time where our play call improved on the road in Buffalo. Watch a CPF game in buffalo made me want to scratch my eyes out. Still room for improvement... I'm thrilled we beat Buffalo, put ourselves in great position to move towards the playoffs. Still took too many bad penalties early, and got beat up on the screens a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Even still, Jenkins gets the MVP for me. We're just a different team with him in there, he's unreal. Revis though is developing into the best CB in the league. Agreed, Jenkins has changed the whole dynamic of the defense...what a monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I'm here. If you think that making some plays today automatically means we were wrong you have sample size issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I'm here. If you think that making some plays today automatically means we were wrong you have sample size issues Name a few plays where he's screwed up... The point was, Rhodes has been good, he doesn't have the numbers to back it up, but no one has pointed to his miscues, no one has pointed to times he's gotten beat... Everyone just expects/wants bigger measurable numbers, and in reality, that's not really that fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Rhodes has been brilliant this season. I've said that all along, great play in the clutch for us today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Name a few plays where he's screwed up... The point was, Rhodes has been good, he doesn't have the numbers to back it up, but no one has pointed to his miscues, no one has pointed to times he's gotten beat... Everyone just expects/wants bigger measurable numbers, and in reality, that's not really that fair. I don't need to point to clear miscues, I can point to the fact that every QB looks like Montana against us unless they are attempting to hit someone Revis is defending. We have a legit shutdown CB on one side of the field and a good pass rush, it's simply inexplicable that our pass defense has been this bad, which I think most would agree that is has been horrid. So if our overall pass defense stinks outside of Revis and he's not making any notable plays outside of the past 2 weeks, I have a hard time understanding how anyone can argue he's playing "good". Where's the evidence? Shouldn't it show up somewhere???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I don't need to point to clear miscues, I can point to the fact that every QB looks like Montana against us unless they are attempting to hit someone Revis is defending. We have a legit shutdown CB on one side of the field and a good pass rush, it's simply inexplicable that our pass defense has been this bad, which I think most would agree that is has been horrid. So if our overall pass defense stinks outside of Revis and he's not making any notable plays outside of the past 2 weeks, I have a hard time understanding how anyone can argue he's playing "good". Where's the evidence? Shouldn't it show up somewhere???? For one, much of the passing against us is coming vs. the linebackers. We have big run-stuffing, pass-rushing LBs who are a liability in coverage. Second, next to Rhodes stands Eric Smith/Abram Elam, both a liability. Elam played ok today, and saw the most action we've seen of him yet, so perhaps we'll get more. But we can all agree that Smith has been an absolute negative. Third, we have Darrelle Revis, and then a laundry list of useless CBs. Drew Coleman made a big play today by getting hit in the back by the ball. We all know David Barrett plays so far off the ball he gives up an automatic 6-7 anytime the offense wants it. Lowery is young, inexperienced, and seems to be decent, but that's about the best you can say on him. The point, as I'm sure you know, is our secondary has two good players, and then a HUGE gap between the next best player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 For one, much of the passing against us is coming vs. the linebackers. We have big run-stuffing, pass-rushing LBs who are a liability in coverage. Second, next to Rhodes stands Eric Smith/Abram Elam, both a liability. Elam played ok today, and saw the most action we've seen of him yet, so perhaps we'll get more. But we can all agree that Smith has been an absolute negative. Third, we have Darrelle Revis, and then a laundry list of useless CBs. Drew Coleman made a big play today by getting hit in the back by the ball. We all know David Barrett plays so far off the ball he gives up an automatic 6-7 anytime the offense wants it. Lowery is young, inexperienced, and seems to be decent, but that's about the best you can say on him. The point, as I'm sure you know, is our secondary has two good players, and then a HUGE gap between the next best player. Punting eh? There's been plenty of plays made in front of and around Rhodes, what I don't see often if him making plays (the last 2 weeks he's coming on) If he's not having an impact because he's busy covering for the crap around him as you say, that doesn't mean he's playing well. Besides, you have chad fans agreeing with you now. I win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Agreed, Jenkins has changed the whole dynamic of the defense...what a monster We all knew that was our missing ingredient on the D. What a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Punting eh? There's been plenty of plays made in front of and around Rhodes, what I don't see often if him making plays (the last 2 weeks he's coming on) If he's not having an impact because he's busy covering for the crap around him as you say, that doesn't mean he's playing well. Besides, you have chad fans agreeing with you now. I win. Judge me not by the company that keeps me. And this is by no means punting. I'm telling you that you can't say a guy is not playing well without demonstrating why. Simply saying the secondary is giving up yards is too general to talk about a specific player. It ignores the fact that many teams abandon the run because we've been very good against it. It ignores the fact that much of the passing has come underneath him (also known as not throwing the ball near Rhodes). It ignores the fact that there are some great targets to throw the ball at for opposing teams. At the end of the day, Rhodes needs opportunities to make plays. If the other team throws away from him 9/10 times, what can he do besides continue to lock down his side of the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget Love 20 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Funny how one of my managers gave me cr@p for having Revis' number and name on my uniform, and I said that Revis is the best CB in the AFC East. He clearly is the best in the East and is climbing up the top of the NFL hands down. By FAR the best pick of the Tangini era, a pick I wasn't crazy about (I'll admit I thought we were going with Brady Quinn) but Mangini has proven me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Judge me not by the company that keeps me. And this is by no means punting. I'm telling you that you can't say a guy is not playing well without demonstrating why. Simply saying the secondary is giving up yards is too general to talk about a specific player. It ignores the fact that many teams abandon the run because we've been very good against it. It ignores the fact that much of the passing has come underneath him (also known as not throwing the ball near Rhodes). It ignores the fact that there are some great targets to throw the ball at for opposing teams. At the end of the day, Rhodes needs opportunities to make plays. If the other team throws away from him 9/10 times, what can he do besides continue to lock down his side of the field? I don't see them throwing away from him 9/10 times though. I see passes being completed around him all the time. I see him blitzing from 20 yards out at the snap The whole thing started by you calling out Rhodes doubters who we supposed to offer penance because he made a nice play on the ball in the end zone. If you're requesting penance, the burden of proof falls on you to tell me why. The play today is not enough to do so, because as I alluded to with the sample size remark, one play does not a season make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I don't see them throwing away from him 9/10 times though. I see passes being completed around him all the time. I see him blitzing from 20 yards out at the snap The whole thing started by you calling out Rhodes doubters who we supposed to offer penance because he made a nice play on the ball in the end zone. If you're requesting penance, the burden of proof falls on you to tell me why. The play today is not enough to do so, because as I alluded to with the sample size remark, one play does not a season make. I'm saying there was never any reason to call him out. So, there's not much more I can offer you as proof. The guy's not getting picked on, not getting beat up, and stats are not the best measure of a DB's performance. I'd point to Ty Law's 10 INT season to back that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I'm saying there was never any reason to call him out. So, there's not much more I can offer you as proof. The guy's not getting picked on, not getting beat up, and stats are not the best measure of a DB's performance. I'd point to Ty Law's 10 INT season to back that up. there's a middle ground though between playing good and playing bad. I'm sitting there. The whole point of the callout was the KR is supposed to be on of our best players and the leader in the secondary, not that he was play poorly, but that he needed to step it up a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Oh I don't know if he's that great, he can't cover a crossing route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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