Fishooked Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Answer - there isn't one. Seriously, WTF. I have yet to see anyone on this team, offense or defense, that is willing to scream at their teammate to get their head in the game. You know, slap them on the helmet or grab their facemask and get in there face? Who is it? Anyone? Anyone witness this in ANY GAME this year? I sure haven't. You know its not Favre - and you know what? Maybe it should be. Or someone else. Is it Rhodes? Nope. Ellis? Nope, he seriously looks like he's stoned out there already. You know what? I don't care who it is - but this team NEEDS someone like that. And sadly I have yet to see anyone who is willing to accept that role. Weak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Some get Bryan Cox a uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I know Bill Cowher will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Some get Bryan Cox a uniform. here here.. I'd like to see him more active on the sidelines.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Teddy Atlas is there to motivate us cause you know.... our coach can't do it and his personality is being absorbed by his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norway'sWaddlingMarmaloof Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Eric doesn't prefer screaming. It ruins his appetite and makes him feel mildly distressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Eric doesn't prefer screaming. It ruins his appetite and makes him feel mildly distressed It's hard to scream when you have 18 sticks of gum in your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Reggie Hodges. I hear he's a real fireball. I just hope we don't cut him before he can get this team ready to go to war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaspegs Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 All ****en Mangini does is chew his f'in gum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 It's not the Mangini way. On a sidenote, why hasn't a Jets beatwriter asked Mangini: "Coach, you're a career sub-.500 head coach and when you were a defensive coordinator your unit performed worse than your predecessor and successor. What gives you the confidence that you can be successful here?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Mangini has preached he wants leaders since day 1, who are those leaders and where the hell are they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I've seen Jenkins get mad and yell @ a few guys this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Mangini has preached he wants leaders since day 1, who are those leaders and where the hell are they Good point. But it also doesn't help that Mangini has failed at being a leader himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Good point. But it also doesn't help that Mangini has failed at being a leader himself. Your right, if he was a leader he would be taking control of the defense. I do not see him demanding a "novel idea" called in game modifications or demanding a new game plan that seems the same on defense week after week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Some get Bryan Cox a uniform. Thats the first thing I though of when I saw this thread. I agree Fish. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Your right, if he was a leader he would be taking control of the defense. I do not see him demanding a "novel idea" called in game modifications or demanding a new game plan that seems the same on defense week after week. A perfect example of this I remember was in a Jets-Pats game in one of the SB years for the Pats. There was a big 3rd & 1 play the Jets were going for and before the play, the camera caught Belichick huddled with the defense adamently instructed them what to do. Crennel was the DC, but he was put aside by Belichick. Belichick took charge right there and the Pats stuffed the Jets on that play. Belichick takes charge on game day, Mangini never has. And, as you noted, Mangini has never made a halftime adjustment. It's uncanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 screaming is over rated these are professionals, they shouldn't need to be told winning is better than losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishooked Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 Thats the first thing I though of when I saw this thread. I agree Fish. I agree. Bryan Cox is the first person I thought of as well... And no, I don't think screaming is overrated, but it would be nice to see our own players on the sidelines "pissed off" for a change. Emotionless, leaderless bags of dirt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 It's not the Mangini way. On a sidenote, why hasn't a Jets beatwriter asked Mangini: "Coach, you're a career sub-.500 head coach and when you were a defensive coordinator your unit performed worse than your predecessor and successor. What gives you the confidence that you can be successful here?" Lol... I can only imagine the yammering about consistancy he'd do.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAKE Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 great post!!.....i have been saying for years that this is what we are missing. you need a ray lewis, b. cox, hell even a romanowski......we have not a one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Bryan Cox is the first person I thought of as well... And no, I don't think screaming is overrated, but it would be nice to see our own players on the sidelines "pissed off" for a change. Emotionless, leaderless bags of dirt... JESUS ****ING CHRIST WILL YOU SHUT UP AND POST SOME FUNNY PICS YOU GOD DAMNED MORON, WHAT THE **** IS WITH THIS SERIOUS THREAD, I WANT SOME FUNNY GIFS MOTHER****ER !!!!!! see what I mean ? are you inspired now or do you want to tell me what I can do with my keyboard right now ? I think they need to adopt an agressive game plan, which will get the players excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 A perfect example of this I remember was in a Jets-Pats game in one of the SB years for the Pats. There was a big 3rd & 1 play the Jets were going for and before the play, the camera caught Belichick huddled with the defense adamently instructed them what to do. Crennel was the DC, but he was put aside by Belichick. Belichick took charge right there and the Pats stuffed the Jets on that play. Belichick takes charge on game day, Mangini never has. And, as you noted, Mangini has never made a halftime adjustment. It's uncanny. Yes exactly Belechick like Parcels will go down and coach a guy in March July or a game they are coach's and that is what coach's do they make players better. These guys are coach's, Mangini I do not picture doing this. I see Mangini dissecting film but not really coaching guys on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 JESUS ****ING CHRIST WILL YOU SHUT UP AND POST SOME FUNNY PICS YOU GOD DAMNED MORON, WHAT THE **** IS WITH THIS SERIOUS THREAD, I WANT SOME FUNNY GIFS MOTHER****ER !!!!!! see what I mean ? are you inspired now or do you want to tell me what I can do with my keyboard right now ? I think they need to adopt an agressive game plan, which will get the players excited Not a bad way of making your point.. But it's more then just yelling, emotion can be positive and negative. Parcels yelled a lot and is pretty much a master motivator.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Not a bad way of making your point.. But it's more then just yelling, emotion can be positive and negative. Parcels yelled a lot and is pretty much a master motivator.. Parcels knew who to yell at and who to pat in the butt that is part of coaching. Billy Martin once said to be a manager you have to be like a psychiatrist you need to know all 25 personalties and how to motivate each one of the 25 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishooked Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 JESUS ****ING CHRIST WILL YOU SHUT UP AND POST SOME FUNNY PICS YOU GOD DAMNED MORON, WHAT THE **** IS WITH THIS SERIOUS THREAD, I WANT SOME FUNNY GIFS MOTHER****ER !!!!!! see what I mean ? are you inspired now or do you want to tell me what I can do with my keyboard right now ? I think they need to adopt an agressive game plan, which will get the players excited LMAO! It doesn't have to be the coaches - Id rather it were a player, a teammate....Rhodes, for one....maybe Ellis, Coles, whomever - someone that will openly challenge their teeammates to get the best out of them...even a brawl between the offense and defense will do! Just...show some emotion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishooked Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 And without fail, no one pays attention when I attempt to start a football thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Thomas Jones. The only problem is when he speaks, people die of fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Thomas Jones. The only problem is when he speaks, people die of fear. Thomas Jones can beat Contra 1. Without the code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwback54milkman Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 i honestly believe chad would have done it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Answer - there isn't one. Seriously, WTF. I have yet to see anyone on this team, offense or defense, that is willing to scream at their teammate to get their head in the game. You know, slap them on the helmet or grab their facemask and get in there face? Who is it? Anyone? Anyone witness this in ANY GAME this year? I sure haven't. You know its not Favre - and you know what? Maybe it should be. Or someone else. Is it Rhodes? Nope. Ellis? Nope, he seriously looks like he's stoned out there already. You know what? I don't care who it is - but this team NEEDS someone like that. And sadly I have yet to see anyone who is willing to accept that role. Weak... Oh jesus. The last thing an adult male who is making 7 figures needs or wants is someone screaming at them. Will you guys get over this. This is the absolute LAST thing this team needs. What it does need is better play in the secondary and a game breaker at WR. we have neither. All the yelling in the world is not going to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishooked Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 i honestly believe chad would have done it... As he's curled up on the ground, clutching his shoulder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishooked Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 Oh jesus. The last thing an adult male who is making 7 figures needs or wants is someone screaming at them. Will you guys get over this. This is the absolute LAST thing this team needs. What it does need is better play in the secondary and a game breaker at WR. we have neither. All the yelling in the world is not going to change that. That's not the point - where's the emotional leader on this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Oh jesus. The last thing an adult male who is making 7 figures needs or wants is someone screaming at them. Will you guys get over this. This is the absolute LAST thing this team needs. What it does need is better play in the secondary and a game breaker at WR. we have neither. All the yelling in the world is not going to change that. We dont have anyone who can consistently pressure the QB. That's probablyour biggest problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 We dont have anyone who can consistently pressure the QB. That's probablyour biggest problem. True, that matters too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 i honestly believe chad would have done it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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