Scott Dierking Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 when the Jets win it's a fluke. when the Jets lose it's all rex's fault. got it. More so, what have you done for me lately? Not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 More so, what have you done for me lately? Not so much. Alot on defense. Not alot on offense. But it's better than alot of coaches do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Alot on defense. Not alot on offense. But it's better than alot of coaches do. My primary concerns are Wand L's and direction of team. We could have the best defense in the world, and win 4 games. I am not interested in statistics, I am interested in Team goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 My primary concerns are Wand L's and direction of team. We could have the best defense in the world, and win 4 games. I am not interested in statistics, I am interested in Team goals. Do you acknowledge that next season could still be a W-L failure (no playoffs) but have a positive team direction? IMO this will depend on how Idzik builds the team. He isn't likely to go balls to the wall for wins for the year, but rather take some lumps and try to get things in line for 2014 when there will be legit cap room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 My primary concerns are Wand L's and direction of team. We could have the best defense in the world, and win 4 games. I am not interested in statistics, I am interested in Team goals. agree. which is why I like long term approach it appears Idzik is looking at. Focus on the whole, not a piece, like the Def Coord Rex did. I actually think with a still decent Def and the switch to WCO might produce more 2013 Ws than I thought possible a month ago. if we can get a great pass catching RB out of backfield (like UNCs Gio Bernard) to fit the needs of WCO it would sure help. (When was last time Jets ran great screens?) Plus he is great Punt Returner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Do you acknowledge that next season could still be a W-L failure (no playoffs) but have a positive team direction? Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 What am in denial about, my dear friend? Heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 if we can get a great pass catching RB out of backfield (like UNCs Gio Bernard) to fit the needs of WCO it would sure help. (When was last time Jets ran great screens?) Plus he is great Punt Returner. Really good point here. For years it seems like we've treated RB's like they were blunt instruments to be sent into the pile of linemen over and over again and hope it works. And its not just a Rex thing, that's been the case since the Mangini/Schottenheimer days. Some fresh blood and creativity would be nice out of the RB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Really good point here. For years it seems like we've treated RB's like they were blunt instruments to be sent into the pile of linemen over and over again and hope it works. And its not just a Rex thing, that's been the case since the Mangini/Schottenheimer days. Some fresh blood and creativity would be nice out of the RB position. When was the last time the Jets ran a well coordinated screen play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 When was the last time the Jets ran a well coordinated screen play? Leon Washington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 agree. which is why I like long term approach it appears Idzik is looking at. Focus on the whole, not a piece, like the Def Coord Rex did. I actually think with a still decent Def and the switch to WCO might produce more 2013 Ws than I thought possible a month ago. if we can get a great pass catching RB out of backfield (like UNCs Gio Bernard) to fit the needs of WCO it would sure help. (When was last time Jets ran great screens?) Plus he is great Punt Returner. This is the feeling I had going into the season last year. We had the personnel to ground and pound and had an OC that would wear a team down and control time of poss. I hope this year is a step forward on offense. Last year was definately a step backwards.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 When was the last time the Jets ran a well coordinated screen play? Leon Washington? I think it goes back further than that. Leon caught a decent amount of balls, but the screen game was fairly weak even under Favre. I think you need a threatening passing game for screens to work. Much of the board thinks of them as working well with the smashmouth game, but I don't agree. I think you get a vertical passing game or even a normal passing attack and then you have an effective screen game. When you are a "running" team they aren't as effective. Just like play action needs a threatening running game, you need the threat of the pass for screens to work. It doesn't help that Sanchez seems physically unable to throw them, almost always jumping and getting tons of balls batted by linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 When was the last time the Jets ran a well coordinated screen play? my point exactly. Gio is prefect for this and he would be a Top10 Punt Returner ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I think it goes back further than that. Leon caught a decent amount of balls, but the screen game was fairly weak even under Favre. I think you need a threatening passing game for screens to work. Much of the board thinks of them as working well with the smashmouth game, but I don't agree. I think you get a vertical passing game or even a normal passing attack and then you have an effective screen game. When you are a "running" team they aren't as effective. Just like play action needs a threatening running game, you need the threat of the pass for screens to work. I absolutely agree here. It's the same reason why Darren Sproles is able to catch passes out of the backfield for about 8 yards a pop. Yes, they have a pretty good system there, and Sproles is good in that role, but Drew Brees is the main reason why it works to such effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFtoLong Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 when the Jets win it's a fluke. when the Jets lose it's all rex's fault. got it. You cannot deny the amount of luck they had in their first two seasons, it was insane. The current state of the Jets is largely Rex's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Why is it that when the JETS win a close one its because they are lucky and if the lose a close one its because they choked and are losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFtoLong Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Why is it that when the JETS win a close one its because they are lucky and if the lose a close one its because they choked and are losers. This year that was not really a problem, they got blown out most weeks. Gotta love Rex football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 This year that was not really a problem, they got blown out most weeks. Gotta love Rex football. Thanks for reminding us all. You are a kind and decent gentleman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFtoLong Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Thanks for reminding us all. You are a kind and decent gentleman! No prob, I will continue to do so as long as there are Rex lovers supporting the moron who is destroying my favorite team. Yes, I am a kind and decent gentleman, thanks for noticing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 No prob, I will continue to do so as long as there are Rex lovers supporting the moron who is destroying my favorite team. Yes, I am a kind and decent gentleman, thanks for noticing. Keep on fighting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFtoLong Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Keep on fighting! I won't have to, I will be proven right, and all the dolts who support that moron can apologize for extending out our misery for at least another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 When was the last time the Jets ran a well coordinated screen play? Richie Anderson vs. the Colts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechJet Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Youu gotta be kiddin! stop playin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I won't have to, I will be proven right, and all the dolts who support that moron can apologize for extending out our misery for at least another year. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I won't have to, I will be proven right, and all the dolts who support that moron can apologize for extending out our misery for at least another year. No no no. The way it works is Rex will get fired and his most ardent supporters will disappear for a few days before resurfacing, claiming that some weird event occurred between now and then that validated their current opinion, but allows them to rip Rex moving forward. The Homer Timeline: 1. Tacit defense ("Rex is pretty good) 2. Tacit defense 3. Violent defense ("Rex is GREAT") 4. Violent defense ("You know nothing about football if you don't think he's great!") 5. Delusion ("But the quarterback stunk!") 6. Delusion ("He didn't pick these players!") 7. Denial ("The team didn't 'quit'!) 8. Denial ("If he had Peyton...") 9. Equivocation ("He's good, but frustrates me") 10. Acceptance ("He sucks") 11. Revision ("He was great until Wayne Hunter") 12. Conform ("I've been saying he's sucked for years") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Good hire. I'm excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechJet Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 What! you gotta be kiddin right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 What! you gotta be kiddin right! All good from the Josh Portis thread gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechJet Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 All good from the Josh Portis thread gone. que pasa me ha? how do I post a pic with a reply? do I use the image icon? I did, it's still not working. watts up with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 watts up with that. Oooohhhweeee! Sorry, Lindsay Buckingham, we're out of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 You are an odd character. You make this like this is some battle of wills where there is a winner and loser. These are opinions that we are stating. Neither you nor I have a good handle on what really happens on the Jets. All we see are the results where we can then make guesses. For you to sit there and chest thump as if your opinions are so much more right is a little said. Some call it small penis syndrome. Good for you, your opinion is so much more important. He always cries that he cant get a woman. maybe he really does have a small penis. Whoa. He's not trying to take away my trophy, is he? () Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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