Scott Dierking Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Championship teams are created, they are not born. The inherent want of fans, especially with a new coaching staff is to see immediate results. And that is a fair want, but needs to be tempered in terms of building. In most cases, new staffs are replacing old staffs that have either failed, or time ran out. This means that a change of fortune must take place,and it is impossible to expect full results in a year's period of time. So what is a good measuing stick for a coach in year one? What can be resonable expectations? Everyone wants to see motivated players and synchronized units that are accountable. But that creates a hard measurement. Rex is inheriting a 9 win team, but that is also a very difficult measurement and possibly unrealistic in terms of how the Jets got to that plateau, and it does not gauge the true temperature of the '08 Jets. For me, year 1 measurement of Rex Ryan and staff will be very easy. And commend Ryan and his candor. The measurement-Make the Jets a top 5 defense in terms of statistics in year 1 (the '09 season). Ryan stated it himself as a goal in the press conference, and said that the talent is on that side of the ball already to accomplish that goal. Accomplish that, and I am confident that the rest will come: -It will give the Jets a long time needed identity as a club. -It will allow the other units to be catered to compliment the defense. -And Ryan will have someting to build off of. That is my simple yard stick for Ryan in year 1. Give me a top 5 defense, and I will take my chances. If he does that, he will have accomplished a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Establish a Top 5 Defense, like Rex said, and make the postseason, or if we miss out at least miss out like New England did with an 11-5 record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 50" waist, jacket size 56 regular... he doesn't look like he needs a "long". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I want to see a defense that punches the other team in the mouth from the first snap. If that happens, the team will be successful. Defense wins championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 I want to see a defense that punches the other team in the mouth from the first snap. If that happens, the team will be successful. Defense wins championships. I have seen teams like that, but that give up big plays consistently also. Just being physical isn't enough. Physicality needs to be paired with smartness and accountability. When you see teams in the top 5 rankings (and the NFL bases it on yards), those are the teams you see there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I want to see a defense that other teanms and fans can respect- and make the playoffs- why would anyone shoot for a lower goal than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I just want to win...I don't care if the defense doesn't rank in the top10. I don't care if the offense can't pass the ball. I just want wins....by any means necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 I just want to win...I don't care if the defense doesn't rank in the top10. I don't care if the offense can't pass the ball. I just want wins....by any means necessary. I understand all of those things, but lket's be frank, making it deep into the playoffs may not be a realistic goal for the Jets in '09. If that is not the case, we need something to judge Ryan off of. I think this may be the fairest criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 NYJSBXLIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 NYJSBXLIV That would be interesting, considering that it would have been played in NYC if the West Side Stadium had been built. It will instead be played in the 2nd sweetest place the Jets could end the drought - Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 dont start off 8-3 and finish 9-7. then the season is a failure no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudicus Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I will consider the season a success if the defense improves drastically, if not top 5 it has to be top 10 overall and top 5 in at least one category. Also a record equal to or better than last years, if we make the playoffs depends largely on how the other teams in the AFC perform in conjunction with our own record. Lastly no loosing at home to the Fins, Pats or Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen08 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I want to see a defense that punches the other team in the mouth from the first snap. If that happens, the team will be successful. Defense wins championships. you took the words right out of my mouth because we already know we can score points if schotty doesnt have tampon in on gameday day..all we need is our defense to get nasty and stomp on people every week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I want to see a defense that other teanms and fans can respect- and make the playoffs- why would anyone shoot for a lower goal than that. I want a defense that other teams and fans fear to the point that they crap themselves at the very thought of playing the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I want to see a defense that punches the other team in the mouth from the first snap. If that happens, the team will be successful. Defense wins championships. Sometimes. Sometimes the Colts and Rams win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 A top 5 defense would be nice. I want a defense that sacks the QB though. A defense that makes plays. I would rather have the 7th ranked defense based on yards and have them be aggressive and get some turnovers. Ryan seems to be of that mind set. When they asked him about Chris Johnson having a good start I think he said -- yeah but he didn't finish the game. Goes to what DNA said, punch them in the mouth. Let them know you are there. Unlike what we saw from the team this year, no passion. But if they build this defense and hand it to Kellen Clemens we may all wish Chad Pennington was still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Top 5 defense and 11 wins would be a nice season. Division title and at least one playoff win would be even nicer. I think the AFCE is going to be fun again finally, with some competition forming finally. But really, just seeing a 5-man rush now and then and putting a warm body in the middle of the field to cover TEs would be enough to make me smile. Hopefully he won't post the lunch orders on the defensive whiteboard like Mangini did: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 i like the idea of the Jets being a defensive team defense wins championships get the offense through free agency (Boldin, TJ Housh) and draft through defense and a RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthCoastJetsFan Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I'm not going to judge Ryan by wins. The schedule this year is brutal. What I'm looking for is to be aggressive, to play hard, and to improve as the year goes on. A few sacks would be nice, and I really don't want to see any more Tampa 2. More interesting to me is how he handles the QB situation. Can he and he staff develop a young QB? That certainly is more up in the air than anything on the defensive side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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