BwanaZulia Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I mean, bringing us from out of the game to right back in it with new contracts and good cuts? So far, so good! BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Tanny is the man. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 before we pass judgement, who here has actually run a professional team before ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 before we pass judgement, who here has actually run a professional team before ? "team" sure? "Professional"... not so much. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 before we pass judgement, who here has actually run a professional team before ? I was the GM of an 8-12 year old rec league. I got a paper cut when I was opening a contract proposal for a 9 year old. I had to retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 "team" sure? "Professional"... not so much. BZ I was trying to be funny a reference to the aec4 poll thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I once played ping pong at a friends house... in the basement even! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Not me...but we on;y finished second in Pony baseball last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I mean, bringing us from out of the game to right back in it with new contracts and good cuts? So far, so good! BZ What minor league baseball experience do you have that makes your opinion even somewhat valuable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I mean, bringing us from out of the game to right back in it with new contracts and good cuts? So far, so good! BZ Yeah, I thought that with the huge ass spending spree that we'd be knee deep in debt and that our roster would be full of 30 year olds....I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'll wait until Jan '10 to decide if Tanny is good or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I was the GM of an 8-12 year old rec league. I got a paper cut when I was opening a contract proposal for a 9 year old. I had to retire. Was there a good benefit's plan? Disability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinHater Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 He's doing a good job so far! Hope he continues it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Was there a good benefit's plan? Disability? Unfortunately not. I had to pay for the band-aid out of pocket. Bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 My main issues with Tannenbaum so far: 2006: - letting his HC talk him into massively reaching for late-round/UDFA talent players in the middle of the 2006 draft because they were team captains (Schlegel, E.Smith, B.Smith, Pociask). - Letting his HC install a full-time 3-man DL without an appropriate NT. - Kevan Barlow for the same compensation the Pats later gave Oakland for Randy Moss. - Kimo von Oelhoffen...I don't know. He was good before we got him and even the great BB/Pioli team have picked up bust FA's. 2007: - no backup for Pete Kendall and then releasing him. Had to know how the situation was going to end, and to not seriously address OG in FA or the draft, and then release your starter, was foolishness - the childish game of chicken with Revis' agent...that he lost. - Kenyon Coleman. Just too much money for a career backup. He'd still be fine if we had him as a backup making backup money. - not getting 2nd-round (or better) value for Vilma when he had the chance. - Letting his HC install a full-time 3-man DL without an appropriate NT for a second consecutive season. 2008: - no OL depth last year (on the heels of the 2007 OL mess). Just dumb luck that we didn't have any injuries. - giving Pouha a $2M/yr extension for working out hard in practice/TC but showing very little in on-field performance. - guaranteeing Coles' 2008-2009 salary. Again, we're getting "lucky" with this error in the sense that there aren't any super-stud FA WR's out there who we have to pass on because of Coles' guaranteed $6M salary. But it could be argued that it's preventing a trade for someone like Boldin, unless we could structure a deal to keep Boldin's 2009 cap number somewhat lower. The problem is that keeping it too low this year will absolutely destroy us in future years (assuming there's a cap in 2010 & beyond). The whole thing could have been avoided if we added a single legitimate WR in 3 years since the "Tangini" era began. And no, Tim Dwight doesn't count. 2007-2008 - Bryan Thomas & Vernon Gholston. A lot of $ for two guys, who both play the same position, and neither of them has been any good since getting paid. We'll find out this year if it was the players or their coaches (or both). It really could be worse, in light of the good things he has done (considering the mess he walked into). A lot of these errors are rookie-GM type mistakes, but missing on a bunch of picks in a particularly strong 2006 draft is hurting us today. The Favre thing I can't pin on Tannenbaum's head, as both the HC and owner wanted him as well. And a lot of this is just Monday-morning-quarterbacking on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 He hasn't been perfect and I hope to see continued improvement with solid draft picks. Although maybe he should stay away from linebackers lol. Seriously though, my hope is that between him and Ryan we can pick up some defensive gems in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I think Tannebaum is Da Bomb! I mean, look at all the playoff apperances and victories his players have lead the Jets to. And the way he throws people under the bus to save his own ass - Hell, if that doesn't show his pure genius, nothing will! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'll wait until Jan '10 to decide if Tanny is good or not. You can't say that in terms of finanical issues. I'll give him an A+ for his work on that, but the players he brings in are in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I think Tannebaum is Da Bomb! I mean, look at all the playoff apperances and victories his players have lead the Jets to. And the way he throws people under the bus to save his own ass - Hell, if that doesn't show his pure genius, nothing will! Who did he throw under the bus? Mangini? Please. There's a difference between holding others responsible for your shortcomings and holding others responsible for their own shortcomings. Woody didn't seem too happy after that last game himself. If mama ain't happy, ain't no one happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cant Hackett Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 My main issues with Tannenbaum so far: 2006: - letting his HC talk him into massively reaching for late-round/UDFA talent players in the middle of the 2006 draft because they were team captains (Schlegel, E.Smith, B.Smith, Pociask). - Letting his HC install a full-time 3-man DL without an appropriate NT. - Kevan Barlow for the same compensation the Pats later gave Oakland for Randy Moss. - Kimo von Oelhoffen...I don't know. He was good before we got him and even the great BB/Pioli team have picked up bust FA's. 2007: - no backup for Pete Kendall and then releasing him. Had to know how the situation was going to end, and to not seriously address OG in FA or the draft, and then release your starter, was foolishness - the childish game of chicken with Revis' agent...that he lost. - Kenyon Coleman. Just too much money for a career backup. He'd still be fine if we had him as a backup making backup money. - not getting 2nd-round (or better) value for Vilma when he had the chance. - Letting his HC install a full-time 3-man DL without an appropriate NT for a second consecutive season. 2008: - no OL depth last year (on the heels of the 2007 OL mess). Just dumb luck that we didn't have any injuries. - giving Pouha a $2M/yr extension for working out hard in practice/TC but showing very little in on-field performance. - guaranteeing Coles' 2008-2009 salary. Again, we're getting "lucky" with this error in the sense that there aren't any super-stud FA WR's out there who we have to pass on because of Coles' guaranteed $6M salary. But it could be argued that it's preventing a trade for someone like Boldin, unless we could structure a deal to keep Boldin's 2009 cap number somewhat lower. The problem is that keeping it too low this year will absolutely destroy us in future years (assuming there's a cap in 2010 & beyond). The whole thing could have been avoided if we added a single legitimate WR in 3 years since the "Tangini" era began. And no, Tim Dwight doesn't count. 2007-2008 - Bryan Thomas & Vernon Gholston. A lot of $ for two guys, who both play the same position, and neither of them has been any good since getting paid. We'll find out this year if it was the players or their coaches (or both). It really could be worse, in light of the good things he has done (considering the mess he walked into). A lot of these errors are rookie-GM type mistakes, but missing on a bunch of picks in a particularly strong 2006 draft is hurting us today. The Favre thing I can't pin on Tannenbaum's head, as both the HC and owner wanted him as well. And a lot of this is just Monday-morning-quarterbacking on my part. How about giving up what should have been a second round pick for Brett when Tampa Bay in the same conference as Green Bay was reported offering a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonJet Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 before we pass judgement, who here has actually run a professional team before ? I have like 4 or 5 fantasy football teams a year if that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 How about giving up what should have been a second round pick for Brett when Tampa Bay in the same conference as Green Bay was reported offering a 4th. One doesn't know the details of TB's offer (how similar/dissimilar the pick was to ours. I mean how conditional it was). And in case no one noticed, Green Bay turned down TB's offer of a 4th. That does not mean we could have had him for the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 You can't say that in terms of finanical issues. I'll give him an A+ for his work on that, but the players he brings in are in question. Doesnt matter if he makes good or bad moves, if this team doesnt win he is a failure. Right now he is a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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