Klecko73isGod Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Have you considered having that hand surgically removed from your face? ;0) I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to the thread starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Visajets vs. The World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Offer a first round pick for OSI who had become a situational player and malcontent? I do not think I want to help out the Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 osi is not the answer. yes we need a pass rusher, badly. yes osi had a great season last year. the giants sure as heck wouldn't give him to us for anything less then a first and he's not worth it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 What available pass rusher can help this team immediately this upcoming season? You guys all cry over a pass rusher and the NYJETS not having one, but wont admit it now? Come on guys. Our first rounder will be a very late pick at the least, Osi is instant upgrade and could mentor the rookie linemen we signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Presuming the NYJETS win the Super Bowl this season. That pick would be #32. Id take a chance on Osi for it this guy is a pass rushing demon regardless if its a 4-3 or 3-4. Come on guys this isnt Vernon Gholston. Osi is not as great as all that. He only has 11 passes defensed and no interceptions for his entire career! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 Osi is not as great as all that. He only has 11 passes defensed and no interceptions for his entire career! Osi vs the NYJETS pass rusher. I take Osi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Osi vs the NYJETS pass rusher. I take Osi. Zero interceptions. Zero. Every defender currently on the Jets - including the UDFAs who have never played a game - has at least that many. The production of a UDFA, and you want to deal a first rounder. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 Zero interceptions. Zero. Every defender currently on the Jets - including the UDFAs who have never played a game - has at least that many. The production of a UDFA, and you want to deal a first rounder. Unbelievable. You base the play of a pass rushing DE on interceptions Offer the NYGIANTS a 2nd and 3rd then. The NYJETS need a PASS RUSHER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 You base the play of a pass rushing DE on interceptions Offer the NYGIANTS a 2nd and 3rd then. The NYJETS need a PASS RUSHER. Now you're just being silly. Interceptions don't matter to a defensive end: Defensive end (DE) is the name of a defensive position in the sport of American and Canadian football. This position has designated the players at each end of the defensive line, but changes in formations have substantially changed how the position is played over the years. Eleven-time pro bowler and National Football League Hall of Famer Bruce Smith, usually considered one of the best defensive ends ever, is the all-time leader in career sacks with 200. Early formations, with six- and seven-man lines, used the end as a containment player, whose job was first to prevent an "end run" around his position, then secondarily to force plays inside. When most teams adopted a five-man line, two different styles of end play developed: "crashing" ends, who rushed into the backfield to disrupt plays, and "stand-up" or "waiting" ends, who played the more traditional containment style. Some teams would use both styles of end play, depending on game situations. Traditionally, defensive ends are in a three-point stance, with their free hand cocked back ready to "punch" the offensive lineman, or in a "two-point stance" like a linebacker so they can keep containment. Some defensive ends play the position due to their size; they close down their gap so the running back has no hole to run through. Other ends play the position due to their speed and agility; they are used to rush the quarterback. These ends can time the snap of the ball in order to get a jump on the rush. Most of the time it is the job of the defensive end to keep outside or contain, which means that no one should get to their outside; they must keep everything to the inside. The defensive ends are fast for players of their size, often the fastest and smallest players on the defensive line. They must be able to shed blockers to get to the ball. Defensive ends are also often used to cover the outside area of the line of scrimmage, to tackle ball carriers running to the far right or left side, and to defend against screen passes. Since the creation of zone blitz defenses in the late 1990s, defensive ends have sometimes been used in pass coverages, dropping back to cover routes run close to the line of scrimmage. In the 3-4 defense, defensive ends are used primarily as run stoppers and are much larger. Often, the position is played by a more agile or slightly undersized defensive tackle. Because of the increased popularity of the 3-4 defense, the value of a defensive tackle prospect that can possibly be used in this manner has increased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I'm dying over here. Doggin you're a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Now you're just being silly. Interceptions don't matter to a defensive end: Defensive end (DE) is the name of a defensive position in the sport of American and Canadian football. This position has designated the players at each end of the defensive line, but changes in formations have substantially changed how the position is played over the years. Eleven-time pro bowler and National Football League Hall of Famer Bruce Smith, usually considered one of the best defensive ends ever, is the all-time leader in career sacks with 200. Early formations, with six- and seven-man lines, used the end as a containment player, whose job was first to prevent an "end run" around his position, then secondarily to force plays inside. When most teams adopted a five-man line, two different styles of end play developed: "crashing" ends, who rushed into the backfield to disrupt plays, and "stand-up" or "waiting" ends, who played the more traditional containment style. Some teams would use both styles of end play, depending on game situations. Traditionally, defensive ends are in a three-point stance, with their free hand cocked back ready to "punch" the offensive lineman, or in a "two-point stance" like a linebacker so they can keep containment. Some defensive ends play the position due to their size; they close down their gap so the running back has no hole to run through. Other ends play the position due to their speed and agility; they are used to rush the quarterback. These ends can time the snap of the ball in order to get a jump on the rush. Most of the time it is the job of the defensive end to keep outside or contain, which means that no one should get to their outside; they must keep everything to the inside. The defensive ends are fast for players of their size, often the fastest and smallest players on the defensive line. They must be able to shed blockers to get to the ball. Defensive ends are also often used to cover the outside area of the line of scrimmage, to tackle ball carriers running to the far right or left side, and to defend against screen passes. Since the creation of zone blitz defenses in the late 1990s, defensive ends have sometimes been used in pass coverages, dropping back to cover routes run close to the line of scrimmage. In the 3-4 defense, defensive ends are used primarily as run stoppers and are much larger. Often, the position is played by a more agile or slightly undersized defensive tackle. Because of the increased popularity of the 3-4 defense, the value of a defensive tackle prospect that can possibly be used in this manner has increased. You broke that down like a lawyer would lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 You broke that down like a lawyer would lol. You just needed some football knowledge. Judging a Defensive End by interceptions is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 You just needed some football knowledge. Judging a Defensive End by interceptions is ridiculous Knowledge indeed. Some of that stuff I didnt even know. Its rare that I quote your comments, but you always bring some good stuff. Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Depends on price but Osi would help here, 4-3 DE or not. I'm at least a little convinced that a veteran can adjust from DE to DE/OLB if motivated to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Let me tell you something. Rex wants a pass rusher. Based on the market id be certain they will give Osi a look or two. Heres a guy who can walk in and instantly upgrade this defense regardless if its 3-4. This defense strives for a legitimate pass rusher. Osi is that man. TRADE FOR THIS BEAST Have you spoke to Rex directly? Because everything he's done since he's been here would indicate the exact opposite of what you're claiming. You guys share different philosophies. Both defensive geniuses, no doubt, but you two construct teams differently. When you and Smashmouth take over the FO for the NY Jets, you can make moves like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 What available pass rusher can help this team immediately this upcoming season? You guys all cry over a pass rusher and the NYJETS not having one, but wont admit it now? Come on guys. Our first rounder will be a very late pick at the least, Osi is instant upgrade and could mentor the rookie linemen we signed. Visa no matter how good he is at rushing the passer he does it out of a defense we really don;t run alot. So we could only use him in special situations and at the cost he would demand not worth it. Now if it was someone say like... Demarcus Ware? This might be crippling the franchise for a couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLguerriero1 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 osi in our system would be a situational rusher, not big enough for the line, not experienced enough to believe hes just gona be an outside linebacker.. no way is he worth a 4th, let alone a 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Harris to Giants for Osi; sign Tatupu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Harris to Giants for Osi; sign Tatupu. Cosign. Add Raheem Brock at DE and cut that fat load Pouha and we're ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Cosign. Add Raheem Brock at DE and cut that fat load Pouha and we're ready to go. Pouha is a good player. Why would the Jets cut him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Cosign. Add Raheem Brock at DE and cut that fat load Pouha and we're ready to go. Posting from my phone, so I can't rep, but you're playing out of your mind today. Harumph harumph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Posting from my phone, so I can't rep, but you're playing out of your mind today. Harumph harumph. Agreed. If it makes you feel any better, I've been repping Doggin like crazy today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Pouha is a good player. Why would the Jets cut him? I'm sorry, I thought we were playing "ways to wreck the Jets Defense by completely ignoring the scheme we play." We aren't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Doggin is killing it right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I'm sorry, I thought we were playing "ways to wreck the Jets Defense by completely ignoring the scheme we play." We aren't? Sorry, wasnt paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 As always, I agree w/ visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Osi is a diva, a 43 player and he's wildly inconsistent. You wanna give up a 1 for THAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newyorkgiants10 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 haha i was listening to some new york radio people and they were talking bout how the giants should trade osi to the jets and get david harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 Osi is a diva, a 43 player and he's wildly inconsistent. You wanna give up a 1 for THAT? What will we be drafting next year say with the 31-32 pick in the draft, that would help us make a Super Bowl run. This ought be interesting. Those who act like they know so dam much and love to criticize this question is for you woof woof. The 2011 NYJETS Defense desperately needs a legitimate pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 haha i was listening to some new york radio people and they were talking bout how the giants should trade osi to the jets and get david harris Giants would never do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newyorkgiants10 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Giants would never do that. giants would definitely do it i think. they need help at linebacker bad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 I would never trade Harris for Osi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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