65 replies to this topic

[Maxman]

How many first picks have been busts?

When they needed to make the right move, they did.

Can we say the same about the Jets?

Dude this is a reach. They have the 1st pick twice. Both times they were handed gifts.

[JiF]

the only reason the Fleener, TY Hilton and Dwayne Allen picks are decent is because of Andrew Luck.

TY Hilton could be the Jets 4th WR and no one would care.

This. The only reason that draft looks good is Andrew Luck.

[JiF]

Dude this is a reach. They have the 1st pick twice. Both times they were handed gifts.

Luckiest team in the NFL.

[unbanmadmike1]

This. The only reason that draft looks good is Andrew Luck.

That isn't true. They got A LOT of good players from their draft this season. Hilton, Allen, Fleener, Ballard and Brazil. Thats a haul even without Luck.

[unbanmadmike1]

Tolseco to the Bolts anyway.

[Greenseed4]

Does this mean the Jets and Gamble are the only two partnerless kids at the dance?

[JoeC36]

So a team drafts a franchise qb not once, but twice, and makes it work out?

Interesting.

I understand what you're saying, but I'd give him more credit if both weren't picked at #1. I'll admit I don't now his background and if he was there for the drafting of Peyton Manning. But that team fell apart when Manning went down. So much so they went 1-15 and were rewarded with the opportunity to pick a player who was regarded as the best QB prospect since Elway. Yes he could have been a bust, but any team who had that pick and needed a QB would have done the same.

[Matt39]

the only reason the Fleener, TY Hilton and Dwayne Allen picks are decent is because of Andrew Luck.

TY Hilton could be the Jets 4th WR and no one would care.

Hilton and Allen would both be starting here.

[pedro55]

The Colts could have taken Ryan Leaf. Or they could have passed on Luck and taken RG3.
But saying all that, the Jets traded away picks and moved up to take Sanchez. It wasn't like they took him in the 3rd round and he didnt' work out.
They traded up for the kid.

[JiF]

That isn't true. They got A LOT of good players from their draft this season. Hilton, Allen, Fleener, Ballard and Brazil. Thats a haul even without Luck.

Hilton, Fleener, Ballard and Allen would all be jags with a QB like Mark Sanchez. Luck makes that draft.

[JiF]

Hilton and Allen would both be starting here.

Not because they're good but because the Jets were riddled with injuries.

[Scott Dierking]

I understand what you're saying, but I'd give him more credit if both weren't picked at #1. I'll admit I don't now his background and if he was there for the drafting of Peyton Manning. But that team fell apart when Manning went down. So much so they went 1-15 and were rewarded with the opportunity to pick a player who was regarded as the best QB prospect since Elway. Yes he could have been a bust, but any team who had that pick and needed a QB would have done the same.

They also had the GUTs to tear down what they had, place a lot of dead money and part with teh trash

Honestly, do you think the Jets have the stomach to do that? They think their trash smells so good, they invite it to the bedroom and ask it to stay.

A year ago, the question was-Do the Colts hang on to Peyton? many were split, and aid let him mentor the kid.

Did the Colts luck into Luck? Sure they did. But they did a lot else right, also.

[SayNoToDMC]

Does this mean the Jets and Gamble are the only two partnerless kids at the dance?

How many times does this need to be said? POOR INTERVIEW.

You aren't going to razzle dazzle a couple football guys like Rex and Woody telling tales of team building or success on the personnel side of things. We've already got an ace on the player side of things and Gamble clearly didn't impress with his charisma. If he was really serious about the job would it have killed him to learn a couple magic tricks? Rex would have loved that

[JetsFanInDenver]

I think Gamble may not be a bad candidate. He might have overestimated his worth and insisted on bringing his own man and not live with the current HC (JETS) or not even interview other candidates (Chargers). So he is without a job.

Edited by JetsFanInDenver, 09 January 2013 - 05:33 PM.

[SayNoToDMC]

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Edited by SayNoToDMC, 09 January 2013 - 02:36 PM.

[#27TheDominator]

How many first picks have been busts?

When they needed to make the right move, they did.

Can we say the same about the Jets?

Put me on top of the draft the years than John Elway, Jeff George, Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck come out. Find me 3 people that wouldn't have drafted those guys #1 overall.

[bitonti]

The Colts could have taken Ryan Leaf. Or they could have passed on Luck and taken RG3.

that's technically true but unlikely.

[Scott Dierking]

Put me on top of the draft the years than John Elway, Jeff George, Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck come out. Find me 3 people that wouldn't have drafted those guys #1 overall.

1. Bill Parcells
2. Trexbaum
3. Mr Magoo

[#27TheDominator]

What does a poor interview mean in this case? It could be that the team is forcing Rex down candidates throats. That would be a bad sign for our chance to get the best GM. Having a bad interview in this context could be that they don't like/agree with the guy's vision for building a team. That may be because the interviewers are idiots OR because the guy has a poor/strange vision. The only thing we know about these guys is what team they are coming from, but we don't know what their draft boards looked like. Just because a team made the right pick, it doesn't mean that the guys without decision making power had the board set up well.

[pedro55]

Put me on top of the draft the years than John Elway, Jeff George, Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck come out. Find me 3 people that wouldn't have drafted those guys #1 overall.

You do realize the Baltimore Colts drafted Elway, not the Broncos. He wasn't going to play for them, he was going to play for the Yankees. Finally the Colts gave in and traded him to the Broncos. The Indy Colts drafted Jeff George. He was out of Indy a few years later and never lived up to the hype. And you do realize many of those Colts scouts wanted Ryan Leaf. It was Bill Polian and the Colts coaches who wanted Manning. Leaf was thought to have the stronger arm, stronger upside. Manning was a great QB who couldn't win the big game. It's easy to look back on it now, but during that era, nobody in their right mind thought Ryan Leaf would be a bust. If the Colts listened to their scouts, they would have had Ryan Leaf. The Chargers would have picked Manning. And the rest would be history.

So saying it's just about picking the first pick, isn't really true.

Edited by pedro55, 09 January 2013 - 02:58 PM.