predator_05 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 it would probably be a deal similar to the one that sent alex smith to KC: a 2nd round pick and a conditional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I've been thinking about this too, especially with Fitz as a free agent....but I think from a comfort zone, they're going to stick with Fitz, even if just as an invaluable #2. i assume Fitz and Petty will be on next year's roster. the question for me comes down to: do you want Bradford as you final QB on the roster, and likely #1, or do we draft one of next year's QBs to compete with petty long term for the #1 spot? I can't watchthe Jets this year because that loser Fitzpatrick is our QB, if anyone thinks he is better than Bradford they need to get their head examined, and if I have to watch another year of Fitzpatrick in 16 I'll prob just tune out the Jets completely. This is the least invested I've been in the Jets since the Bollinger year, hope I don't have to be indifferent again next year because Fitz is the QB. So yes Bradford please, once he gets away from that lunatic Kelly, and that's after having to deal with sh*theimer for a few years I think Bradford will really blossom like Brees did once a coach committed to design an offense around his skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 A top 10 QB still in his 20s - yes, we make that deal and allowPetty to sit for two more years. the stupidity begins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Two Matt Stafford threads? it's really getting bad All my years watching Stafford I was never impressed and he is getting exposed royally now that Calvin Johnson is no longer capable of making plays in tripe coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I can't watchthe Jets this year because that loser Fitzpatrick is our QB, if anyone thinks he is better than Bradford they need to get their head examined, and if I have to watch another year of Fitzpatrick in 16 I'll prob just tune out the Jets completely. This is the least invested I've been in the Jets since the Bollinger year, hope I don't have to be indifferent again next year because Fitz is the QB. So yes Bradford please, once he gets away from that lunatic Kelly, and that's after having to deal with sh*theimer for a few years I think Bradford will really blossom like Brees did once a coach committed to design an offense around his skill set. and 5 minutes after we trade for Bradford he will get hurt. He is better than Stafford even though his injury history is asinine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Matthew Stafford is not a top ten QB. He's actually fairly overrated and the asking price would probably be prohibitive. If you want a QB that can hold the Jets over until Petty, he's already on the roster and his name is Fitzmagic. I disagree. Stafford has been a fantasy stud until this season when defenses realized the Lions can't run the ball and if trapped in the pocket he is not mobile. If protected this guy is the equal of Matty Ice, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers and is younger than each of them except Ryan. His cost would be prohibitive because I don't expect Detroit to just give him away. As for Sperm Edwards...never mention Colin Kaepernick again. He is one of the three worst QB's I have ever seen. Manziel, RGIII and Kaepernick are all the same guy and they are JAG's all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 We should get Stafford and Ray Rice and start a has-been fantasy football team roster for the LA expansion franchise. Kim Kardashian can date a new teammate every year for her reality show. Stafford can force it into quadruple coverage to Chad Ochocinco then blame the OL for his pick 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I can't watchthe Jets this year because that loser Fitzpatrick is our QB, if anyone thinks he is better than Bradford they need to get their head examined, and if I have to watch another year of Fitzpatrick in 16 I'll prob just tune out the Jets completely. This is the least invested I've been in the Jets since the Bollinger year, hope I don't have to be indifferent again next year because Fitz is the QB. So yes Bradford please, once he gets away from that lunatic Kelly, and that's after having to deal with sh*theimer for a few years I think Bradford will really blossom like Brees did once a coach committed to design an offense around his skill set. Bradford stinks like rotten garbage, and is more fragile than glass. Fitzy is head and shoulders better than Bradford and is gutsier and tougher. I think we give Fitzy this year and let him battle it out with Petty for the QB job next year. Either way the Jets can't lose as they will have a good starter and a good backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I had no idea the owner is Ford's wife who is 90: http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/columnists/bob-wojnowski/2015/11/05/wojo-lions-martha-ford-fires-mayhew-lewand/75268370/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I had no idea the owner is Ford's wife who is 90: http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/columnists/bob-wojnowski/2015/11/05/wojo-lions-martha-ford-fires-mayhew-lewand/75268370/ she's 90 years old and she wants results now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 We already did this thread. And like I explained before... I have seen more Stafford than possibly any other JN member while living in Michigan from '09 to '14. He is NOT a quality QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 We already did this thread. And like I explained before... I have seen more Stafford than possibly any other JN member while living in Michigan from '09 to '14. He is NOT a quality QB. the amount of exposure you have had to his play doesn't automatically make your opinion the right one. I'm not going to dispute what you are saying because while yes, I had watched Stafford.. I haven't played close attention to what he does. He needs an Oline and some ground game. In my eyes he was a top 15, top 10 guy anyway. With the right tools I think he is top ten WITHOUT question and that's enough for us. Our core guys are 30,31..even 32. Its time to go all in on a QB that can go the season distance. Now or never for Revis and his generation of Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I'll do it for a 3rd rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 We already did this thread. And like I explained before... I have seen more Stafford than possibly any other JN member while living in Michigan from '09 to '14. He is NOT a quality QB. but he has a good QB rating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Stafford sucks. I used to think it was an aberration, bad luck, etc... no. Guy is underachiever who doesn't show vision and poise. And can we please stop pretending he's "developing"... He was drafted in 2009. I can't think of any other QB who's been given as much time, talent, and opportunity to become a franchise leader and a winner. He's done thing but hold down the fort, and is routinely outplayed by Hill/Orlovsky when they've had to fill in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Is it just me or is this guy Jeff George the 2nd? or is he not even that good? Jeff George had 2x the balls and gaul. God do i miss me some J.G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Jeff George had 2x the balls and gaul. God do i miss me some J.G. Such a quick release too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 We are talking about a guy that broke records. He is tough as nails and he is a franchise QB. I stand by that. College FB is shelling out 4 QB's a year... 3 of them are becoming trash, if Stafford Is available YOU DO WHAT IT TAKES TO GET HIM. At all costs... That is if you want to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Such a quick release too. Best arm in the history of the game, IMO... Cannon, quick release. tireless... perfect. He had a workout as recently as a couple years ago @ Illinois. Filmed and sent out to teams. He still had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Jeff George had all the physical tools, too bad the position requires more than physical tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 the amount of exposure you have had to his play doesn't automatically make your opinion the right one. I'm not going to dispute what you are saying because while yes, I had watched Stafford.. I haven't played close attention to what he does. He needs an Oline and some ground game. In my eyes he was a top 15, top 10 guy anyway. With the right tools I think he is top ten WITHOUT question and that's enough for us. Our core guys are 30,31..even 32. Its time to go all in on a QB that can go the season distance. Now or never for Revis and his generation of Jets. You are dead wrong about top 10. Stafford is lazy, as shown by his footwork which has not improved one iota since day 1 in Detroit. He is also careless, often throwing off his back foot and sidearm when the pocket has NOT broken down resulting in unnecessarily inaccurate throws. He is also sorely lacking in charisma and leadership as shown by how his teammates interact with him. They consider him a coworker, not "their" quarterback. Fitz inspires teammates better and generates more respect. Stafford is a slightly less douchey version of Cutler. All talent, no heart. I realize this could be interpreted as obnoxious, but my opinion IS the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 A top 10 QB still in his 20s - yes, we make that deal and allowPetty to sit for two more years. Can you please explain, in detail, what happens to a quarterback who holds a clipboard in year three that doesn't happen by year two (of holding a clipboard)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 You are dead wrong about top 10. Stafford is lazy, as shown by his footwork which has not improved one iota since day 1 in Detroit. He is also careless, often throwing off his back foot and sidearm when the pocket has NOT broken down resulting in unnecessarily inaccurate throws. He is also sorely lacking in charisma and leadership as shown by how his teammates interact with him. They consider him a coworker, not "their" quarterback. Fitz inspires teammates better and generates more respect. Stafford is a slightly less douchey version of Cutler. All talent, no heart. I realize this could be interpreted as obnoxious, but my opinion IS the right one. I wasn't convinced until I saw that you capitalize "is" in that last line there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I wasn't convinced until I saw that you capitalize "is" in that last line there. ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 and 5 minutes after we trade for Bradford he will get hurt. He is better than Stafford even though his injury history is asinine trade? He's a free agent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 We are talking about a guy that broke records. He is tough as nails and he is a franchise QB. I stand by that. College FB is shelling out 4 QB's a year... 3 of them are becoming trash, if Stafford Is available YOU DO WHAT IT TAKES TO GET HIM. At all costs... That is if you want to win. based on all that winning he's done in detroit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Stafford sucks. I used to think it was an aberration, bad luck, etc... no. Guy is underachiever who doesn't show vision and poise. And can we please stop pretending he's "developing"... He was drafted in 2009. I can't think of any other QB who's been given as much time, talent, and opportunity to become a franchise leader and a winner. He's done thing but hold down the fort, and is routinely outplayed by Hill/Orlovsky when they've had to fill in. ^^^this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Can you please explain, in detail, what happens to a quarterback who holds a clipboard in year three that doesn't happen by year two (of holding a clipboard)? In detail, rookies who are number 3 on the depth chart are practicing with 2nd and 3rd stringers who don't help said rookies development in the 1st year, so throwing him out there with very limited experience and expecting veteran results is dumb. Give him an extra year to climb up the charts and get some quality time with the 1s and I think he'll be ready in year three. Does that meet with your expectations of "in detail?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 In detail, rookies who are number 3 on the depth chart are practicing with 2nd and 3rd stringers who don't help said rookies development in the 1st year, so throwing him out there with very limited experience and expecting veteran results is dumb. Give him an extra year to climb up the charts and get some quality time with the 1s and I think he'll be ready in year three. Does that meet with your expectations of "in detail?" Climb up the charts. You mean like a Beatles song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Can you please explain, in detail, what happens to a quarterback who holds a clipboard in year three that doesn't happen by year two (of holding a clipboard)? ask aaron Rodgers, he held it for 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 ask aaron Rodgers, he held it for 4 Oh, yeah, The Aaron Rodgers Recipe for Making a Quarterback. I really have no idea how any QB starts before his fourth year in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Oh, yeah, The Aaron Rodgers Recipe for Making a Quarterback. I really have no idea how any QB starts before his fourth year in the league. since he is the only successful spread offense QB in the NFL right now, it's a recipe worth paying attention 2. if you want to follow the Alex smith, rg3, Tebow, Kapernick, and Geno recipe...go ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 since he is the only successful spread offense QB in the NFL right now, it's a recipe worth paying attention 2. if you want to follow the Alex smith, rg3, Tebow, Kapernick, and Geno recipe...go ahead Yup, the only difference between Tim Tebow and Aaron Rodgers is an extra season and a half of clipboard duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 You are dead wrong about top 10. Stafford is lazy, as shown by his footwork which has not improved one iota since day 1 in Detroit. He is also sorely lacking in charisma and leadership as shown by how his teammates interact with him. They consider him a coworker, not "their" quarterback. Fitz generates more respect. Stafford is a slightly less douchey version of Cutler. All talent, no heart. My opinion IS the right one. What you guys aren't understanding is the supporting cast for him is garbage. And as far as the balance between heart and talent... No one opinion is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetman55 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 What you guys aren't understanding is the supporting cast for him is garbage. And as far as the balance between heart and talent... No one opinion is right. if he sucks with Calvin Johnson, Tate, ebron, and pettigrew...he sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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