slats Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I don't see this guy carrying the load at all. I think he's a quality closer. A guy you can hand it to when you're looking to grind out the game clock against a well worked opponent, but he's just not the man, IMHO. This has been my opinion of him for awhile, but it really hit home last night. LT, who didn't look good running the ball in the preseason, looked better than Greene yesterday. Thing is, I don't want LT getting used like that. I like him as the third down back, but the Jets had no choice but to keep him in there full time once the urgency built up in the second half. That kinda use of LT will result in him running out of gas again at the end of the year. That's not good. I want to see more McKnight. He showed something last year against Buffalo, he continues to show his selflessness on special teams. He deserves a bigger role on the offense, and the offense -I think- cold be better because of it. The Jets did something fascinating last night - they executed a couple beautiful screen passes! I would much prefer seeing McKnight on the receiving end of those than Greene. He's better catching the ball, and better in space. He can also split out wide and be effective there, or run the wildcat. The Jets could better disguise what they're next call will be with him in the huddle. Also disappointed that Bilal Powell couldn't contribute enough on specials to be active. He needs to step up. Having him available would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Greene will be fine... the cowboys DL were blowing up every gap... there was nowhere to run... the JETS had an average running game against a great D front... not shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Greene will be fine... the cowboys DL were blowing up every gap... there was nowhere to run... the JETS had an average running game against a great D front... not shocking. I expect the ground game to bounce back against the Jags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan220 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 It seemed like he took a backseat for most of the 4th quarter...It was probably because we were coming from behind and Tomlinson is better catching the ball out of the backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 It's been a few years now since he blew up in the playoffs. Since then he's been a JAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I'm not sure that I disagree with you, but last night was hardly the time to make that judgment. The OL was absolutely atrocious, and the guy was getting hit in the backfield on pretty much every play. I'm not sure if there's a back in the league who has any success with those carries Greene got last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I expect the ground game to bounce back against the Jags. The way they shut down Chris Johnson - I wouldnt be too confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Greene is a plodder with two left feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I'm not sure that I disagree with you, but last night was hardly the time to make that judgment. The OL was absolutely atrocious, and the guy was getting hit in the backfield on pretty much every play. I'm not sure if there's a back in the league who has any success with those carries Greene got last night. This. The line stunk and there was no real commitment to running the ball. I can understand that in the context of this game. Between poor blocking, Dallas losing their top 3 corners and playing from behind, they pretty much abandoned the run. The run blocking needs to get fixed fast IMO. Sanchez throwing the ball 45 times a game isn't how this team is going to win the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 The way they shut down Chris Johnson - I wouldnt be too confident. The Jaguars shut down an out of shape RB who has a terrible O-line? No way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 I'm not sure that I disagree with you, but last night was hardly the time to make that judgment. The OL was absolutely atrocious, and the guy was getting hit in the backfield on pretty much every play. I'm not sure if there's a back in the league who has any success with those carries Greene got last night. Like I said, I felt this way before last night's game, and last night's game did nothing to alter my opinion. LT looked better rushing the football. Granted, when LT is on the field the defense has to think more about the pass, but that's one of the problems with having Greene on the field - you know he's not out there to catch a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I'm not sure that I disagree with you, but last night was hardly the time to make that judgment. The OL was absolutely atrocious, and the guy was getting hit in the backfield on pretty much every play. I'm not sure if there's a back in the league who has any success with those carries Greene got last night. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Greene needs a better chinstrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Greene needs a better chinstrap. LOL. He is not going to last the season if his helmet comes off 3 times a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Guys, this offensive line is not very good at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 The Jaguars shut down an out of shape RB who has a terrible O-line? No way! The Jags own the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 The Jags own the Jets. Crusher must be doing double duty in the mod lounge to keep Max from banning you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Crusher must be doing double duty in the mod lounge to keep Max from banning you. Why? They do own us. We are like 2-9 vs. them all time. Even when we are better. I'm actually hoping they beat us. It seems every year they beat us in the regular season we make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 The way they shut down Chris Johnson - I wouldnt be too confident. I'll stay confident. CJ2K is not gonna come out guns ablaze in his first game since last season. The Jets are gonna establish the run so we don't run into the situation we did last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I don't see this guy carrying the load at all. I think he's a quality closer. A guy you can hand it to when you're looking to grind out the game clock against a well worked opponent, but he's just not the man, IMHO. This has been my opinion of him for awhile, but it really hit home last night. LT, who didn't look good running the ball in the preseason, looked better than Greene yesterday. Thing is, I don't want LT getting used like that. I like him as the third down back, but the Jets had no choice but to keep him in there full time once the urgency built up in the second half. That kinda use of LT will result in him running out of gas again at the end of the year. That's not good. I want to see more McKnight. He showed something last year against Buffalo, he continues to show his selflessness on special teams. He deserves a bigger role on the offense, and the offense -I think- cold be better because of it. The Jets did something fascinating last night - they executed a couple beautiful screen passes! I would much prefer seeing McKnight on the receiving end of those than Greene. He's better catching the ball, and better in space. He can also split out wide and be effective there, or run the wildcat. The Jets could better disguise what they're next call will be with him in the huddle. Also disappointed that Bilal Powell couldn't contribute enough on specials to be active. He needs to step up. Having him available would be nice. Slats its only one game and our O-Line was destroyed last night to be honest. Lets give him some time no one was running the ball with the penetration Dallas was getting on us last night. If anything i would rather see Powell than McSpecialT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Why? They do own us. We are like 2-9 vs. them all time. Even when we are better. I'm actually hoping they beat us. It seems every year they beat us in the regular season we make the playoffs. You're our Mark Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 You're our Mark Sanchez. False. That would imply that JiF comes up big in the clutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Like I said, I felt this way before last night's game, and last night's game did nothing to alter my opinion. LT looked better rushing the football. Granted, when LT is on the field the defense has to think more about the pass, but that's one of the problems with having Greene on the field - you know he's not out there to catch a pass. I'm still conflicted on Greene, so I get your point, I just really don't think you can count last night to mean much of anything with how bad his blocking was. LT's success came almost entirely in the passing game. Was his 3.2 YPC really that much more impressive than Greene's 2.6? It was a mess for all parties running the ball. I might agree with you more if it weren't for the fact that I thought Greene had a nice preseason, far better than the other Jets RBs, with McKnight the only other one really showing anything. Worst case scenario, the Jets have a whole slew of RBs and the team showed last year they won't hesitate to pull the plug on Greene if he's not doing what they think he should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 False. That would imply that JiF comes up big in the clutch. "You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day" Booooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan220 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Guys, this offensive line is not very good at all week 1 after a shortened pre-season against a decent front 8, I think its too early to say this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 "You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day" Booooooooo I got your back. So really, JiF is more Tony Romo? I feel like I'm over thinking this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I like Greene. It seems like they get down on him pretty fast considering that they claim to want him to beat up the defense. If that's what they want, they should pound it. Thing is they never seem to want to do it. 3 yards and a cloud of dust has its place, but they don't seem to accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Our running game hardly ever starts out well in a season, it will take time to get that going. As for Greene, I like him, he runs hard and will eventually put up his numbers. But I'd also like to see McKnight enter the rotation, guy has skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Shonn Greene will never be a flash/big yardage back. I think if he gets his YPC to about 4 or so we can consider him productive. We do need better than he gave last night but I think he's running in tougher circumstances due to the fact that when he's on the field it's pretty much yelling HERE COMES THE RUN!!!!!! Someone made this point already and I 100% agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 It's been a few years now since he blew up in the playoffs. Since then he's been a JAG. he is definitely no Larry Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I got your back. So really, JiF is more Tony Romo? I feel like I'm over thinking this. Alex Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 "You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day" Booooooooo You gotta be more stingy with those positive votes. This is the Monday after gameday we're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I feel so loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Alex Smith. I got it: Matt Leinart, brah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I think Rob took a page out of brother Rex's book with the "do whatever you want on offense but I WILL stop your run" mentality. I wouldnt place too much stock into our first game of the season being the way our whole season will go. Sure they stuffed our run, but we had over 300 yds of O through the air. Now if we were stuffed on the run and couldnt move the ball through the air I would agree on blaming Greene, I mean schotty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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