aec4 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 As the author I can tell you that Scotts numbers are 100% correct. Other guys are not. His is 100% correct. I have an article right now on the costs and how they likely will cut him http://nyjetscap.com/2011_Post/bartscottcut.php What source do u have that outlines form10% certainty they didn't renegotiate again during the season this yr? I'm not saying you were never right but those things change daily. Nn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 As the author I can tell you that Scotts numbers are 100% correct. Other guys are not. His is 100% correct. I have an article right now on the costs and how they likely will cut him http://nyjetscap.com...artscottcut.php Don't forget about the extra $390K (2012 NFL minimum salary) that hits the cap for the 52nd-highest salary now becoming the 51st. That affects the net charge as well. If Scott is here and counts $6M then that's it. If he's gone and counts $7.2M (if no one else signs him) then the net cap increase is effectively $7.6M not $7.2M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 And it set us back on keeping key components of our team. I never said that it was a good decision to go after nnamdi with all the free agents we had last offseason. All I'm trying to say is the jets aren't afraid to go after a big name free agent especially with us not making the playoffs this year. Woody has to find some way to sell tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 According to beat writers on Twitter With no postseason, changes are coming for #Jets. Here's one: Source tells me Bart Scott won't be back next season. I'll wait until player moves are official. Too many rumors going on now for anyone to confirm anything. While I can't say I would disagree with the move based on production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 What source do u have that outlines form10% certainty they didn't renegotiate again during the season this yr? I'm not saying you were never right but those things change daily. Nn Call it 99.999% certainty. There were no changes to Scotts salary structure during the year and there is no reason why a player would voluntarily give up guaranteed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Call it 99.999% certainty. There were no changes to Scotts salary structure during the year and there is no reason why a player would voluntarily give up guaranteed money. Maybe he wants to be nice to Rex for getting him that gargantuan deal in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan718 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 We could use an upgrade at his position. Burfict would be a great upgrade if he's available when we pick, but only if there's not another position of need that takes priority when were on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Don't forget about the extra $390K (2012 NFL minimum salary) that hits the cap for the 52nd-highest salary now becoming the 51st. That affects the net charge as well. If Scott is here and counts $6M then that's it. If he's gone and counts $7.2M (if no one else signs him) then the net cap increase is effectively $7.6M not $7.2M. Good point. I guess it depends on if the contribution of the new guy is worth an additional 400K. Scott was so bad it might be. If the report is true I wonder what it means for Calvin Pace? Probably more of a market for him than Scott. He also had about $4.1 million in guarantees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Call it 99.999% certainty. There were no changes to Scotts salary structure during the year and there is no reason why a player would voluntarily give up guaranteed money. I never said give up. Mi said take it in 2011 instead. You're probably right but since you don't work for a front office or the jets there are plenty of chances of you bring wrong. Prob not but th chances are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I never said give up. Mi said take it in 2011 instead. You're probably right but since you don't work for a front office or the jets there are plenty of chances of you bring wrong. Prob not but th chances are there. He could not take it in 2011 unless the Jets screwed up future cap charges (any money would have been prorated except base salary and that did not increase) which would make no sense. The new CBA has rules in place that make it pointless to use up cap in the current year by prepaying deals that way too. Teams could do it, but there is no point unless it is for tax purposes or something completely non-football related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 If were not saving a substantial amount of money and creating cap space than keep Scott for one more year. One less position we need to worry about this offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Bumped for Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Scott proved to be overrated and underachiever- surrounded by more talent in Baltimore it concealed that maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Scott proved to be overrated and underachiever- surrounded by more talent in Baltimore it concealed that maybe. Ha! Scott was an absolute monster last year. Graded out as one of the best ILB in the league. Knowing his job coupled with that production is incredible. He was very good the season before as well. This comment couldnt be further from the truth. And not to long ago, we were thanking him for helping change the culture and making this D nasty. Its funny what a puny little cali faghomo model can do to a fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Bumped for Max. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Ha! Scott was an absolute monster last year. Graded out as one of the best ILB in the league. Knowing his job coupled with that production is incredible. He was very good the season before as well. This comment couldnt be further from the truth. And not to long ago, we were thanking him for helping change the culture and making this D nasty. Its funny what a puny little cali faghomo model can do to a fanbase. Bart Scott made $23,000,000 for the last three years of decent service here. DeMarcus Ware has made $21,500,000 over the same span Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Bart Scott made $23,000,000 for the last three years of decent service here. DeMarcus Ware has made $21,500,000 over the same span This year he was decent, not the seasons before when he was great. Who was a better team during that span? And the whole money thing isnt a big deal to me. I get there's a cap but I dont get bent out shape for over paying for players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Bart Scott was taken off the field more in 2011 than 2010. The Jets defense against the pass was much better and they were worse against the run in 2011 compared with 2010. Conincidence? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Ha! Scott was an absolute monster last year. Graded out as one of the best ILB in the league. Knowing his job coupled with that production is incredible. He was very good the season before as well. This comment couldnt be further from the truth. And not to long ago, we were thanking him for helping change the culture and making this D nasty. Its funny what a puny little cali faghomo model can do to a fanbase. While he was pretty good last year and Im sure PFF and FO graded him as one of the better players during the year I dont believe the Jets did that watching their films. The reason I say that is he took quite a paycut over the next two years to stay with the team. Guys who are considered the best at position dont take paycuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Ha! Scott was an absolute monster last year. Graded out as one of the best ILB in the league. Knowing his job coupled with that production is incredible. He was very good the season before as well. This comment couldnt be further from the truth. And not to long ago, we were thanking him for helping change the culture and making this D nasty. Its funny what a puny little cali faghomo model can do to a fanbase. Are you really saying Scott was a great player this year buy everyone thinks he sucked because Sanchez? Really???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 The Jets really changed the culture alright, thanks Bart. They used to just lose big games. Now they talk trash before and during, then they lose big games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Are you really saying Scott was a great player this year buy everyone thinks he sucked because Sanchez? Really???? No thats not what I said.. He wasnt good this year. He was great last year and very good the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Who hear doesn't wish we just payed Ray Lewis at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I remember his very first play here. It was a pre-season game against the Rams and he put one of the offensive lineman on their a$$. Crushed him. I don't understand the Scott hate here. He is not at all that bad. He does a lot of the dirty work inside. It's the same as the Cotchery, Edwards, Lowery, Jones, Leon hate when they were "goners" too. It's a strange phenomenon how that happens. Yeah... let's just add to our laundry list of needs this offseason. Pace sucks by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Statistically he really wasn't that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Scott made a lot of plays that enabled David Harris to amass tackles. That was the scheme and he did it without complaining. I am still trying to figure out who all these stat crazy guys are that McElroy was talking about. Okay, Santonio. But by all accounts Plaxico has been a model citizen. Oh, maybe Mason. But he was gone in a flash. Frankly, I am tired of all these anonymous villains. Scott was up front, he talked trash but he did not make excuses for himself or even try to curry favor with the media. And he never walked around talking about how good he was. I liked him. I think it might be time for him to go, but as far as I am concerned, he was an okay signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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