flgreen Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 OCT 16 6:00 AM ET By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com T The questions are bound to come up a hundred times this week: Are the New England Patriots vulnerable? Is this the New York Jets' big chance? You've heard this storyline for more than a year, and it will be on the forefront this week because the Patriots are decimated as they prepare to face the Jets Sunday at MetLife Stadium. The latest news broke Tuesday night, with Yahoo! Sports reporting that linebacker Jerod Mayo could be lost for the remainder of the season after undergoing surgery Tuesday to repair a torn pectoral muscle. The Patriots recently lost their outstanding defensive tackle Vince Wilfork to a season-ending injury, wiping out their two heart-and-soul players on defense. Drawn from more than five decades of history, ESPN New York presents its 50 Greatest Jets. Top 50 Photo Gallery Rank 'Em This would be akin to the Jets losing David Harris and Muhammad Wilkerson. It's a continuing trend for the Patriots. They have no Wes Welker, no Aaron Hernandez, no Danny Woodhead and no Rob Gronkowski (maybe). Welker Lite, Danny Amendola, also is a question mark this week. But they're still atop the AFC East. They're still winning because they have Tom Brady and nobody else does. He has a way of winning with a patchwork supporting cast. There will be no Brady pity from Rex Ryan. "What’s their record, 5-1 or something like that?" Ryan asked Monday. "I think he’s pretty good. He looks pretty good to me. Always has." That's because Ryan has lost five straight to Brady. So to answer the question: Are the Patriots vulnerable? Well, yeah, they're more vulnerable than in the past, but they're still better in a diminished state than everybody else in the division. ICYMI: The Jets, battling their own injuries, made a flurry of roster moves Tuesday. They signed WR/KR Josh Cribbs and WR Greg Salas and placed RB Mike Goodson and WR Clyde Gates on season-ending injured reserve. On Sunday, the receiving corps will consist of Stephen Hill, Jeremy Kerley, David Nelson, Michael Campbell and Cribbs. Santonio Holmes (hamstring) is a long shot to play. Talk about patchwork. ... Here's my film review of last week. ... The Jets are 20th in the latest ESPN.com Power Rankings. ... And a former local-college football star comes home to the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Jets play the Pats lousy at MetLife, play better in Foxboro so this one is already over. Geno is up and down and Rex can only coach in certain modes. As always I am hopeful and will watch to the (bitter) end but I have little faith in Rex Ryan's ability to lift his team against the 'genius' Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The Pats are winning because their defense has been balling out. Chandler Jones is a star and Aqib Talib has been the DPOY imo. Brady, for as good as he is, has been pretty mediocre this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 People keep saying Smith is inconsistent. He has thrown multiple interceptions in 5 out of 6 games. That seems pretty consistent to me. With that said this is a good game to have a breakout performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 People keep saying Smith is inconsistent. He has thrown multiple interceptions in 5 out of 6 games. That seems pretty consistent to me. With that said this is a good game to have a breakout performance. You mean another breakout performance, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I actually see the Jets winning this game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The Pats are winning because their defense has been balling out. Chandler Jones is a star and Aqib Talib has been the DPOY imo. Brady, for as good as he is, has been pretty mediocre this season. Meh, the D balled vs. EJ Manuel (not really, needed Brady to bail them out), Geno Smith, Josh Freeman and Andy Dalton. They almost choked vs. Matt Ryan and they needed another bail out by Brady on Sunday vs. Brees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I would suspect that anytime that you have lost 5 straight to an opponent, they are represented as "dangerous" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I actually see the Jets winning this game.. Nobody cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I would suspect that anytime that you have lost 5 straight to an opponent, they are represented as "dangerous" We are do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Meh, the D balled vs. EJ Manuel (not really, needed Brady to bail them out), Geno Smith, Josh Freeman and Andy Dalton. They almost choked vs. Matt Ryan and they needed another bail out by Brady on Sunday vs. Brees. They are forcing turnovers to help a struggling offense too. Something good defenses do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Belicheck could beat the Jets with a team made up of posters on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 They are forcing turnovers to help a struggling offense too. Something good defenses do. Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Being home means nothing anymore for this team, since nobody cheers, so count that advantage out. I just don't see this sh*tty secondary stopping Brady. The offense will have to carry this. A daunting thought b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Nobody cares. I'm not made of stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Being home means nothing anymore for this team, since nobody cheers, so count that advantage out. I just don't see this sh*tty secondary stopping Brady. The offense will have to carry this. A daunting thought b Have you seen the Patriots offense? While Ridley seems to be getting going, the receivers and TEs are inconsistent. If the Jets control the Patriots running game, I could easily seeing the Jets shutting the Patriots down like the Bengals did. After the first five minutes of the last game, the Patriots only scored 3 points against the Jets. While they did leave some points on the field, it was not that many. Plus, the Patriots losses on D, the Jets should win this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I'm not made of stone. Nobody needs false positivity from a Browns troll. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Have you seen the Patriots offense? While Ridley seems to be getting going, the receivers and TEs are inconsistent. If the Jets control the Patriots running game, I could easily seeing the Jets shutting the Patriots down like the Bengals did. After the first five minutes of the last game, the Patriots only scored 3 points against the Jets. While they did leave some points on the field, it was not that many. Plus, the Patriots losses on D, the Jets should win this game. Only way we can win is if we have zero turnovers; yes, Brady hasn't been himself this year and the WRs aren't as dynamic as past years, but if you give #12 enough opportunities with the ball, he's eventually going to score on you. I just don't think we have the horses to score enough to win, unless the defense pitches a shutout; the loss of wilfork hurts, but spikes has made up for that almost by himself. It'd be one thing if we had the players to torch your linebackers, but since we do not, you can afford to have Spikes, Hightower and Collins in there longer, when they'd usually be a liability in pass coverage. I see another close game with a heartbreaking 4th quarter loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Nobody needs false positivity from a Browns troll. Just saying.objectivity from another fan base is precisely what this board needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 things that make them dangerous. Two Words. tom brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Have you seen the Patriots offense? While Ridley seems to be getting going, the receivers and TEs are inconsistent. If the Jets control the Patriots running game, I could easily seeing the Jets shutting the Patriots down like the Bengals did. After the first five minutes of the last game, the Patriots only scored 3 points against the Jets. While they did leave some points on the field, it was not that many. Plus, the Patriots losses on D, the Jets should win this game. Again with this sh*t? Different season, same trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Last week, the Pats beat an undefeated team. Last week, the Jets lost to a winless team. Are we really doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 objectivity from another fan base is precisely what this board needs. That and an aids test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I can sum this game up in a nutshell. The Jets will struggle more to replace the production of Mike Goodson, Clyde Gates and Braylon Edwards, than the Pats will to replace Mayo, Wilfork and whoever else is hurt, Amendolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Only way we can win is if we have zero turnovers; yes, Brady hasn't been himself this year and the WRs aren't as dynamic as past years, but if you give #12 enough opportunities with the ball, he's eventually going to score on you. I just don't think we have the horses to score enough to win, unless the defense pitches a shutout; the loss of wilfork hurts, but spikes has made up for that almost by himself. It'd be one thing if we had the players to torch your linebackers, but since we do not, you can afford to have Spikes, Hightower and Collins in there longer, when they'd usually be a liability in pass coverage. I see another close game with a heartbreaking 4th quarter loss. I agree, if it gets into a scoring match, that favors the Patriots. However, as you pointed out, we won the TO battle last time 4-0 and barely won 13-10. The Jets ran the ball well last time with Wilfork and Mayo. I think their loss will be huge this time. Again with this sh*t? Different season, same trolls. Actually, I have been a troll since the beginning. And what did I say that was wrong? The Jets shutdown the Patriots run game last time. 24 carries-54 yards. Sure, Edelman had a big catch game, but the Patriots had only 13 points (3 off a turnover), 232 yards and 9 first downs. The Patriots had one decent drive (their first one), and after that struggled to move the ball all night. If the Jets did not kill themselves, the Jets would have won that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 That and an aids test. Save your money. Dbates and Tom have spread that sh*t all over this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Save your money. Dbates and Tom have spread that sh*t all over this forum. Money? We can go to the free clinic and say hello to CTM while we are at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro55 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 If they come out pissed off, then they have a chance. But knowing the Pats, they have a high level of confidence after last weeks game, they hate the jets, and every time they come back from a game where everybody says Pats are done or Pats should have lost, the Pats destroy the opponent. Hell the Saints were the undefeated team and the Pats were done. Pats still wound up winning. As far as home games, the Jets just looked awful against the Steelers, a team who looks terrible this season. The horrible fact about the Steelers game is the Jets didn't really play horribly, they just looked like a bad team playing another bad team who was a bit better that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I dont think PF is trolling....he's right. The Patriots offense right now isnt very good. Brady hasn't been making these sh*tty WR's into anything more than they are. Rex was laboring in his presser today on how the Jets didnt get any credit for shutting down the Patriots passing game. Gimme a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Actually, I have been a troll since the beginning. And what did I say that was wrong? The Jets shutdown the Patriots run game last time. 24 carries-54 yards. Sure, Edelman had a big catch game, but the Patriots had only 13 points (3 off a turnover), 232 yards and 9 first downs. The Patriots had one decent drive (their first one), and after that struggled to move the ball all night. If the Jets did not kill themselves, the Jets would have won that game. The Jets have an average pass defense and a rookie QB. This is the same old Garb nobody-believes-in-us ploy of building up an inferior opponent so that once you win, you can call it a huge win instead of a routine one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The Jets have an average pass defense and a rookie QB. This is the same old Garb nobody-believes-in-us ploy of building up an inferior opponent so that once you win, you can call it a huge win instead of a routine one. The Bengals had the Pats offense to 6 points. This really isnt a very good offense. I fear what a win for the Jets will do however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I fear what a win for the Jets will do however. to who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 to who? Rex and the team. Big wins seem to carry over into letdown losses. And in reality, a win over a mediocre Patriots team shouldnt be considered that big of a win. At home, it should be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Is Talib going to suit up for the pats this week? If not should balance out the rag tag group we trot out there at WR. I hope mulligan gets called for 3 penalties against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I fear what a win for the Jets will do however. Ensure a loss against the Bengals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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