neckdemon Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 http://nypost.com/2013/11/08/olbermann-vs-francesa-unfolding-in-predictably-awesome-fashion/ pretty funny stuff. Fatcessa pretends like he doesn't know what the caller si talking about yet 30 second slater seems to know the quote verbatim. then Olbermann rips him for a good 2 minutes with some funny lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 If I had a lifeboat and HAD to save either Olbermann or Francesa, I would drown myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I like Olbermann, but Francesa sh*ts bigger than Olbermann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Olbermann's OK sometimes. Francessa is so self-important he's unbearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Whether you like Olbermann or not the guy is pretty sharp I would love to see Idiot Francesa try to get in a pissing match with him because Olbermann would eat him alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Olberman is a nozzle who is a political hack and will no doubt get fired................again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 Olberman is a nozzle who is a political hack and will no doubt get fired................again. the point wasn't whether or not anyne like olberman....it was that he ripped that douchebag mike francessa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Olberman is insufferable. Aa shrill nobody. Fatty on the other hand is quality entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Carton's right about Olbermann being a bully, Olbermann's right about Francesa being a clown, Francesa's right about Olbermann being unemployable. Circle of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Carton's right about Olbermann being a bully, Olbermann's right about Francesa being a clown, Francesa's right about Olbermann being unemployable. Circle of life. When will a lion eat them all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 the point wasn't whether or not anyne like olberman....it was that he ripped that douchebag mike francessa Perfect pair. Every douche bag needs a nozzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Bottom line is Mike schooled him when it comes to making $$$$$ talking sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I dislike both immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shhwagah Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Olbermann, the voice of future NFL where there is no contact, is smart and boring. Francesa is stupid and boring. The winner is Olbermann first round KO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Bottom line is Mike schooled him when it comes to making $$$$$ talking sports. Olbermann made more doing sports center then the political shows than mike could dream of making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Olbermann made more doing sports center then the political shows than mike could dream of making. Francesa gets $5 mil per from WFAN. Olbermann is making $2 mil, struggling to find ratings in the hinterland that is ESPN2. Olbermann's problem has always been that his ratings don't justify his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Francesa gets $5 mil per from WFAN. Olbermann is making $2 mil, struggling to find ratings in the hinterland that is ESPN2. Olbermann's problem has always been that his ratings don't justify his salary. according to wiki, he took a huge paycut to go from an LA based CBS station to go to espn, and at then end "only" made 300k. he was making 450k at cbs at those earnings (if true) i'm sure he was worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 according to wiki, he took a huge paycut to go from an LA based CBS station to go to espn, and at then end "only" made 300k. he was making 450k at cbs at those earnings (if true) i'm sure he was worth it When Olbermann started out? Sure. But his more recent history has been less impressive. His MSNBC show got routinely trounced by Bill O'Reilly before he went to something called "CurrentTV." He's been bailed out by ESPN2. He's a talented guy and puts on a good show, but he's never going to attract a big audience. Francesa, angry and condescending though he may be, guarantees WFAN will own afternoon drive for as long as he's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 i don't really know much about olbermann, but i know i dislike francessa. olbermanns little segment about francessa was pretty funny i thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 When Olbermann started out? Sure. But his more recent history has been less impressive. His MSNBC show got routinely trounced by Bill O'Reilly before he went to something called "CurrentTV." He's been bailed out by ESPN2. He's a talented guy and puts on a good show, but he's never going to attract a big audience. Francesa, angry and condescending though he may be, guarantees WFAN will own afternoon drive for as long as he's there. http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/keith-olbermann-net-worth/ Olbermann's net worth now is $25 million, and that's after blowing up at management repeatedly and bouncing around. Francessa is making $5M now, Olbermann was making $4M in 2007 and was the head of MSNBC's nightly lineup. Fox is king on cable nighttime political shows, but Olbermann's success was enough to convince MSNBC to redo their whole nightly lineup similar to Olbermann's show. True to form, Olbermann left MSNBC in a big blowup, although the format he pioneered there is still in place, (which means they are making money at it). Olbermann has done a lot more things on bigger networks than Francessa ever thought of doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/keith-olbermann-net-worth/ Olbermann's net worth now is $25 million, and that's after blowing up at management repeatedly and bouncing around. Francessa is making $5M now, Olbermann was making $4M in 2007 and was the head of MSNBC's nightly lineup. Fox is king on cable nighttime political shows, but Olbermann's success was enough to convince MSNBC to redo their whole nightly lineup similar to Olbermann's show. True to form, Olbermann left MSNBC in a big blowup, although the format he pioneered there is still in place, (which means they are making money at it). Olbermann has done a lot more things on bigger networks than Francessa ever thought of doing. Francesa made $25 million since 2009 alone. Olbermann is on ESPN2 doing long-form essays about decency in sports and trolling local radio host trying to get people to find out what channel ESPN2 is. You credit Olbermann with creating a stylistic format for political talk shows. Francesa made the sports-talk industry profitable over twenty years ago and created a million carbon copies. I think Francesa is in good shape on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Francesa made $25 million since 2009 alone. Yes, he was paid that, but how much does he have after living on it? If he invested wisely, good for him-but we are talking about the money accumulated from years in broadcasting. Olbermann is on ESPN2 doing long-form essays about decency in sports and trolling local radio host trying to get people to find out what channel ESPN2 is. He's just coming off being in charge of network that didn't make it, after leaving MSNBC in a huff. He's starting over after yet another blowup. So for now, safe, pedestrian Mike Francessa is making more. But Olbermann has done a lot more on the major networks than Francessa is doing now. Every career has its ups and downs, but Olbermann's ups are a lot higher than Francessa's ups. You credit Olbermann with creating a stylistic format for political talk shows. Francesa made the sports-talk industry profitable over twenty years ago and created a million carbon copies. I think Francesa is in good shape on this one. Huh? Sports talk has been on radio in New York well before Francessa. I remember listening to Howard Cosell talk about whether the appointment of a black player to middle linebacker, (the QB of the defense), might mean that the NFL might be ready for a black starting QB. And there were others on the radio at the same time. Francessa didn't invent anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Yes, he was paid that, but how much does he have after living on it? If he invested wisely, good for him-but we are talking about the money accumulated from years in broadcasting. Unless Francesa has a secret heroin addiction and has been maintaining an MC Hammer-like entourage, I'm gonna guess that he's been able to squirrel away a few sheckels over the past twenty years. He's just coming off being in charge of network that didn't make it, after leaving MSNBC in a huff. He's starting over after yet another blowup. So for now, safe, pedestrian Mike Francessa is making more. But Olbermann has done a lot more on the major networks than Francessa is doing now. Every career has its ups and downs, but Olbermann's ups are a lot higher than Francessa's ups. Olbermann's lone "up" was a stretch during the 2008 election season where people were tuning in to watch him mock Palin. Outside of that, he's been a GOP gadfly and a SportsCenter host. Francesa, though everyone "hates" him, has owned afternoon drive radio in the largest market in the country for decades. Meanwhile, Olbermann is getting paid $2 mil to pontificate to a few thousand eyeballs who left their TV on ESPN2 after collegiate gymnastics ended. Huh? Sports talk has been on radio in New York well before Francessa. I remember listeningto Howard Cosell talk about whether the appointment of a black player to middle linebacker, (the QB of the defense), might mean that the NFL might be ready for a black starting QB. And there were others on the radio at the same time. Francessa didn't invent anything. I didn't say Francesa created sports talk, I said he turned it into a profitable industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Unless Francesa has a secret heroin addiction and has been maintaining an MC Hammer-like entourage, I'm gonna guess that he's been able to squirrel away a few sheckels over the past twenty years. I'm sure he has shovelled some away, but the money is taxed and he's been living on it. Which means that he has considerably less of that $25M now than when he got it, even if he's moved into a furnished room on Queens Blvd to be on the busline. Olbermann's lone "up" was a stretch during the 2008 election season where people were tuning in to watch him mock Palin. Outside of that, he's been a GOP gadfly and a SportsCenter host. He's done various TV network shows. Boston Market even used him as a spokesperson to mock "heroin chic" trends in their ads-a sign that he had a style they wanted to promote. He went his own way on his MSNBC show and even though the marriage was rocky and ended predictably, the show went completely over to his format while he was there. Olbermann pioneered that format on MSNBC and they continue to make money on it after he's left. Francesa, though everyone "hates" him, has owned afternoon drive radio in the largest market in the country for decades. Meanwhile, Olbermann is getting paid $2 mil to pontificate to a few thousand eyeballs who left their TV on ESPN2 after collegiate gymnastics ended. Fine. Safe, pedestrian Francessa does his sports thing in NY and he's built himself into a nice niche. Olbermann has been all over the place, done all sorts of things on broadcasting in several different venues, and is just coming back from a network that didn't work out. So for this tiny slice of time, Francessa is ahead of Olbermann in annual income, for now. Olbermann is surely way ahead in money made from broadcasting though, as well as net worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 The sports talk show genre didnt start with Mike F. Yeah, some things actually did happen before you guys were born. ☺ Bill Mazur, Peter Franklin, and the real designer of the genre Art Rust Jr. Ever hear of those guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Loved Bill Mazur, used to listen to him after coming home from school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Anybody think that someone's going to hire Mike Francessa to give an image to their product? They hired Olbermann: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 who cares which one makes more money. i was just laughing at the crap olbermann had to say about francessa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Anybody think that someone's going to hire Mike Francessa to give an image to their product? They hired Olbermann: That was in 1997. Today, he is entirely too polarizing for any company. Plus, he's a giant douche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 That was in 1997. Today, he is entirely too polarizing for any company. Plus, he's a giant douche. That's good news. You shouldnt have any problem finding a job now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 That was in 1997. Today, he is entirely too polarizing for any company. Plus, he's a giant douche. The fact that at one time a large company wanted him to present their image puts him ahead of Francessa-can you imagine anyone hiring Mike to do that? Those commercials Olbermann made were extemely cool as well as funny-I don't know if he had any part in the scripting. They satirized the then fashionable "heroin chic" image which was common in popular magazines. It went out quickly when one of the key photographers of that style was found dead of an overdose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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