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My assumption is the Jets will pick up a veteran to challenge Geno.  On paper, Michael Vick is a good option as he is a little like Geno, played under Morningwhig, and probably knows the offense.

Although, I would have an extremely hard time knowing the Jets have someone who once strangled a dog with his own bare hands, and it would definitely be an off the field distraction.

I truely am worried they wil get this guy after the Eagles cut him. 

Please, Woody, do not do it

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My assumption is the Jets will pick up a veteran to challenge Geno.  On paper, Michael Vick is a good option as he is a little like Geno, played under Morningwhig, and probably knows the offense.

Although, I would have an extremely hard time knowing the Jets have someone who once strangled a dog with his own bare hands, and it would definitely be an off the field distraction.

I truely am worried they wil get this guy after the Eagles cut him. 

Please, Woody, do not do it

Hmmm, they brought in and paid a corner a  kings ransom money, knowing he had about 15 different kids with about 8 different skanks. He brought in a guy who had a loaded unregistered weapon in a NY BAR, and proceeded to shoot himself, but you dont want them to bring in a guy, who granted, did an awful thing, because his off-field distractions would be too much, yet he would be a vast improvement over what we have, and is familiar with the OC's system.

 

Weird.

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Meh. If he can play and help the team, the dog thing shouldn't be a deterrent. He has paid the price five times over.

 

Has he now?  I'm pretty sure they don't hand you a $100M contract after you've "paid your dues" and the universe just declares "we're even".  He's even allowed to own dogs these days.  

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Has he now? I'm pretty sure they don't hand you a $100M contract after you've "paid your dues" and the universe just declares "we're even". He's even allowed to own dogs these days.

He went to jail for two years and lost ~$100 mil. That's paying a price. Yes, killing animals is terrible, but I'm still going to wear my leather shoes and belt over to Chili's later to buy a cheeseburger from a waitress who uses cosmetics that were once tested on rabbits.

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My assumption is the Jets will pick up a veteran to challenge Geno.  On paper, Michael Vick is a good option as he is a little like Geno, played under Morningwhig, and probably knows the offense.

Although, I would have an extremely hard time knowing the Jets have someone who once strangled a dog with his own bare hands, and it would definitely be an off the field distraction.

I truely am worried they wil get this guy after the Eagles cut him. 

Please, Woody, do not do it

The dog situation in no way is even a topic let alone a distraction. How many years ago was this? We got guys in the league that have killed people in a drunken stupor going a thousand miles an hour in a Bentley and didnt get a fraction of the attention that I seen Vick get, AND these guys didnt even serve time for killing a human being yet Vick did for a dog. The Jets (though I hope not) can sign Vick and the only reason why this would be a distraction is by people making it one and not wanting to let go of something that doesnt matter. 

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He went to jail for two years and lost ~$100 mil. That's paying a price. Yes, killing animals is terrible, but I'm still going to wear my leather shoes and belt over to Chili's later to buy a cheeseburger from a waitress who uses cosmetics that were once tested on rabbits.

 

Killing animals is bad.  Torturing them and hanging out with the kind of scum that dogfight is another story entirely.  Those people are one very miniscule step from killing humans.  I'm not leaving it up to you to determine if he's "paid his price", and I don't want him on the Jets.

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The dog situation in no way is even a topic let alone a distraction? How many years ago was this? We got guys in the league that have killed people in a drunken stupor going a thousand miles an hour in a Bentley and didnt get a fraction of the attention that I seen Vick get, AND these guys didnt even serve time for killing a human being yet Vick did for a dog. The Jets (though I hope not) can sign Vick and the only reason why this would be a distraction is by people making it one and not wanting to let go of something that doesnt matter. 

 

Aaron Hernandez and Michael Vick.  2 people I don't want on my football team.

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Killing animals is bad. Torturing them and hanging out with the kind of scum that dogfight is another story entirely. Those people are one very miniscule step from killing humans. I'm not leaving it up to you to determine if he's "paid his price", and I don't want him on the Jets.

Is Jim Perdue killing humans?

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Killing animals is bad.  Torturing them and hanging out with the kind of scum that dogfight is another story entirely.  Those people are one very miniscule step from killing humans.  I'm not leaving it up to you to determine if he's "paid his price", and I don't want him on the Jets.

If you feel this strongly about it then stop watching porn! 

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Aaron Hernandez and Michael Vick.  2 people I don't want on my football team.

Donte Stallworth killed in a man in a drunken stupor in his Bentley and that situation didnt matter 15 mins later. Stallworth didnt even serve the time for killing dude for driving drunk. Michael Vick however kills a dog(s) serves his entire sentence, apologizes and for years have never gotten in trouble and still this is an issue. 

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My assumption is the Jets will pick up a veteran to challenge Geno.  On paper, Michael Vick is a good option as he is a little like Geno, played under Morningwhig, and probably knows the offense.

Although, I would have an extremely hard time knowing the Jets have someone who once strangled a dog with his own bare hands, and it would definitely be an off the field distraction.

I truely am worried they wil get this guy after the Eagles cut him. 

Please, Woody, do not do it

 

Hey - this is a serious question - I am not looking to turn this into a dog killing thread.  But did Vick actually do that?  Kill a dog with his own hands?  I didn't follow that case that closely but I thought it was his house, he knew it was all going on etc but I didn't think he actually killed any dogs himself.

 

It is terrible either way, I am just curious.

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The dog situation in no way is even a topic let alone a distraction. How many years ago was this? We got guys in the league that have killed people in a drunken stupor going a thousand miles an hour in a Bentley and didnt get a fraction of the attention that I seen Vick get, AND these guys didnt even serve time for killing a human being yet Vick did for a dog. The Jets (though I hope not) can sign Vick and the only reason why this would be a distraction is by people making it one and not wanting to let go of something that doesnt matter. 

Wow, I agree with you. How about that?

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Hey - this is a serious question - I am not looking to turn this into a dog killing thread.  But did Vick actually do that?  Kill a dog with his own hands?  I didn't follow that case that closely but I thought it was his house, he knew it was all going on etc but I didn't think he actually killed any dogs himself.

 

It is terrible either way, I am just curious.

 

yes, he drowned at least one as far as I recall

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My assumption is the Jets will pick up a veteran to challenge Geno. On paper, Michael Vick is a good option as he is a little like Geno, played under Morningwhig, and probably knows the offense.

Although, I would have an extremely hard time knowing the Jets have someone who once strangled a dog with his own bare hands, and it would definitely be an off the field distraction.

I truely am worried they wil get this guy after the Eagles cut him.

Please, Woody, do not do it

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Donte Stallworth killed in a man in a drunken stupor in his Bentley and that situation didnt matter 15 mins later. Stallworth didnt even serve the time for killing dude for driving drunk. Michael Vick however kills a dog(s) serves his entire sentence, apologizes and for years have never gotten in trouble and still this is an issue. 

 

So just because other guys didn't get penalized as heavily it makes Vick's actions OK?  I don't like Donte Stallworth either, for the record.

 

 

Hey - this is a serious question - I am not looking to turn this into a dog killing thread.  But did Vick actually do that?  Kill a dog with his own hands?  I didn't follow that case that closely but I thought it was his house, he knew it was all going on etc but I didn't think he actually killed any dogs himself.

 

It is terrible either way, I am just curious.

 

Yep.  I believe the report indicated he once took a dog and swung it back and forth until death.  Not sure if he took part in electrocutions.  Great guy, I definitely want him on the Jets.

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So just because other guys didn't get penalized as heavily it makes Vick's actions OK?  I don't like Donte Stallworth either, for the record.

 

 

 

Yep.  I believe the report indicated he once took a dog and swung it back and forth until death.  Not sure if he took part in electrocutions.  Great guy, I definitely want him on the Jets.

 

 

He hung a dog, drowned one, electrocuted one, slammed some to death on the ground, and there was a lot of other REALLY twisted stuff.

That ALL happened. Not rumors.

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So just because other guys didn't get penalized as heavily it makes Vick's actions OK?  I don't like Donte Stallworth either, for the record.

 

 

 

Yep.  I believe the report indicated he once took a dog and swung it back and forth until death.  Not sure if he took part in electrocutions.  Great guy, I definitely want him on the Jets.

It doesnt make his actions okay. What im saying is to get over it. He is a new man today that has paid for his crime. Why is this affecting you so much? I dont want Vick because i dont believe in his talent anymore, has nothing to do with his actions outside of football that he has already corrected. 

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Ok...its not ok what he did...nor do I condone killing or torturing animals of any kind.

With that said...the culture in which Vick was raised (and millions of other Americans) dog fighting is ingrained in their lifestyle...period, point blank. Doesnt make it right, but if you were raised a certain way...he became desensitized to the inhumanity of his actions.

Like a drug dealer who grew up in a familyof drug users and dealers...again...DOESNT MAKE IT RIGHT...but to me, there is a grey area.

With that said...

If MM, who knows him well, thinks that it would be a + for this offense...then Im ok with it. I trust his judgement and I want to f'n win.

Why cant Vick come in and either A compete, or B win the job for now?

If/When he gets injured...theres Geno.

I read here constantly how Geno needs to learn...wouldnt it be benefitial to go thru a legitimate competition through ota's, training camp, preseason and either winning it or losing it and learning from a QB who, is the prime example of flourishing in MM's system?

I gotta think MM would have a big say if everyone whos involved is on board with this...and if he greenlights it...so be it.

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He hung a dog, drowned one, electrocuted one, slammed some to death on the ground, and there was a lot of other REALLY twisted stuff.

That ALL happened. Not rumors.

That was the alleged testimony from his homies who were about to go into the hole. Not exactly "facts," either.

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