ylekram Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 dangle mo wilks as trade bait first of all, I don't like the idea as wilks is the best player on the team. young, talented, home grown, upstanding citizen, etc. just throwing this out there as there is really nothing else going on this years draft is loaded with offensive talent especially wide receivers & tight ends with as many as 15 1st/2nd round talents. the jets are in dire need of offensive playmakers I started thinking on how the jets could acquire more offensive talent this year and started going over the roster to see if there was a player/players worth trading. the deepest position on the jets is clearly the defensive line. wilks, ellis, Harrison, Richardson, coples, douzable(if resigned) pretty solid group of defensive line players question is? what kinda trade value would wilks be worth? what kinda dropoff would the defensive line suffer without wilks? gotta think he is worth 2 early picks plus the 10m to 12m the jets would save instead of extending him as far as the production drop off on the dline, I think there would be some, but I think it would be minimal remember, there is a lot of talent on the dline and you cant re-sign everyone of them. the only one who has serious trade value is wilks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 ban this dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Absolutely not. They have plenty of picks and cap space. They dont need more. They just need to hit on some ******* picks for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Love the idea of making holes by removing proven players to fill holes with unproven players. Please tell me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 For once I agree with JiF. They should also have even more space when they ditch Sanchez and Holmes. They need to hit though not only in the draft but Free Agency as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 1. You're going to get some heat for this 2. I think he's a top-10 pick at the very least, who has DL need that would actually trade for him? nobody. That means we're stuck with the promising talent of a young, clean-nosed, battle-tested talent. boo hoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Why would you trade a productive player still on his rookie locked in salary contract ? And the Jets have a ton of cap room. No reason to open up a hole like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 nominated: WPOTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Why would you trade a productive player still on his rookie locked in salary contract ? And the Jets have a ton of cap room. No reason to open up a hole like that. Because the OP is on synthetic weed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Yes. I would trade Mo for teddy Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Yes. I would trade Mo for teddy Bridgewater. Except no one is going to do that. It would be Mo, # 18, and maybe our 2015 1st or 2nd rounder. All for a guy who is probably not an Andrew Luck. Keep Mo, find our QB another way. Then hopefully we'll have a strong passing attack to couple with a strong pass rush. You know, the 2 things every Super Bowl champion since 2003 have in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 ban this dude +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Why would you trade a productive player still on his rookie locked in salary contract ? And the Jets have a ton of cap room. No reason to open up a hole like that. Because you'd probably get great value in return. I love Mo, he's our best player but he's not a superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Because you'd probably get great value in return. Debatable. What's "great value"? Because anything short of a franchise QB coming from the deal is not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Absolutely not. They have plenty of picks and cap space. They dont need more. They just need to hit on some ******* picks for once. This. It's amazing to me that people suggest trading our best player, but will fight here for months about hanging onto the hope and promise of lost causes up and down the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Debatable. What's "great value"? Because anything short of a franchise QB coming from the deal is not good enough. Then you're overrating Mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 You're thinking outside the box. Get back in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Also, NOBODY is trading us a top 10 QB, and that's the only circumstance where something this careless could be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Then you're overrating Mo. Am I? What, exactly, would be the point be of trading our best defensive player (still on his rookie deal and not in a Revis-like situation at all) if it doesn't net us fixing our biggest issue on the other side of the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Also, NOBODY is trading us a top 10 QB, and that's the only circumstance where something this careless could be considered. Exactly. If we're making this deal so we can move up to take, say, Sammy Watkins or Mike Evans, that would be retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Am I? What, exactly, would be the point be of trading our best defensive player (still on his rookie deal and not in a Revis-like situation at all) if it doesn't net us fixing our biggest issue on the other side of the ball? I'm not saying trade him. I'm saying he shouldnt be untouchable if the right offer were on the other side. If someone called offering a top 5 pick I'd certainly listen, considering the depth we have at dline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I'm not saying trade him. I'm saying he shouldnt be untouchable if the right offer were on the other side. If someone called offering a top 5 pick I'd certainly listen, considering the depth we have at dline. LOL I'm not arguing anything different! The problem is NO ONE is giving us a top 5 pick for Wilkerson. If a team picking in the top 5 needs a DE, they'll take Clowney. Otherwise they're taking one of the QB's that we'd need. That's the point. Any deal we'd be making would fall short of netting us what we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 For once I agree with JiF. They should also have even more space when they ditch Sanchez and Holmes. They need to hit though not only in the draft but Free Agency as well. For once???? We're always on the same page bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 LOL I'm not arguing anything different, but NO ONE is giving us a top 5 pick for Wilkerson. If a team picking in the top 5 needs a pass-rusher, they'll take Clowney. Otherwise they're taking a QB that we need. That's the point. Any deal we'd be making would fall short. Yes if someone offers a late first round pick Im hanging up the phone. If Seattle were to offer Sherman or Earl Thomas straight up for Wilk, I'd probably listen. But that's not happening either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Because you'd probably get great value in return. I love Mo, he's our best player but he's not a superstar. Says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Yes if someone offers a late first round pick Im hanging up the phone. If Seattle were to offer Sherman or Earl Thomas straight up for Wilk, I'd probably listen. But that's not happening either. Earl Thomas? Yeah, ok. We're gonna give up the best DL under 24 other than MAYBE JJ Watt for Earl f*ckin Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 why are you opening a hole where there isn't one to possibly epically fail at filling one? how many superstar WRs are there, really? because you're not getting a high enough pick to secure an andrew luck type QB for a d-lineman, which leaves you with WRs and TEs, many of which will still be available when the Jets pick at 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Earl Thomas? Yeah, ok. We're gonna give up the best DL under 24 other than MAYBE JJ Watt for Earl f*ckin Thomas. I dont think anyone outside of Jets fans thinks WIlkerson is a better player than Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 why are you opening a hole where there isn't one to possibly epically fail at filling one? how many superstar WRs are there, really? because you're not getting a high enough pick to secure an andrew luck type QB for a d-lineman, which leaves you with WRs and TEs, many of which will still be available when the Jets pick at 18. This one gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I dont think anyone outside of Jets fans thinks WIlkerson is a better player than Thomas. I don't think anyone outside of you thinks Earl Thomas is better. Like, in the entire NFL. You don't trade a top DL for a top Safety. EVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Except no one is going to do that. It would be Mo, # 18, and maybe our 2015 1st or 2nd rounder. All for a guy who is probably not an Andrew Luck. Keep Mo, find our QB another way. Then hopefully we'll have a strong passing attack to couple with a strong pass rush. You know, the 2 things every Super Bowl champion since 2003 have in common. Oh yeah, none of it would ever happen. Just saying, straight up....yeah, I'd do it. Would the Jets or Texans, no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Says who? Has he ever been first team All Pro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 And Matt is on his meds again. Mo is a superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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