slats Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 MM has been ok but my optimism about geno making a big 2nd year leap is low. it is one of the more stunning football decisions i have seen in my lifetime where a coach survived the ouster of a qb that the team moved up for on his watch, extended for big bucks, and that he defended so publicly. don't think there is any doubt that rex's tenure is directly linked to geno's play next year. I don't think so, and I certainly hope not. Like you, I'm not sold on Geno at all. I have to hope that the Jets aren't sold on him, either. I think it would be a lot different if they took him in the first round rather than the second. As it stands, I think they're free to bring in genuine competition. I'm hoping they bring in a vet and a rookie QB. I don't think Rex's tenure depends upon Geno as much as it depends on the offense as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Ground n Pound 2.0? Seattle Seahawks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I don't think so, and I certainly hope not. Like you, I'm not sold on Geno at all. I have to hope that the Jets aren't sold on him, either. I think it would be a lot different if they took him in the first round rather than the second. As it stands, I think they're free to bring in genuine competition. I'm hoping they bring in a vet and a rookie QB. I don't think Rex's tenure depends upon Geno as much as it depends on the offense as a whole. Would love competition just dont see a way geno doesnt start next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Bleacher report- just about anyone can apply for a position there. Case closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Seattle Seahawks? Yeah, with a real QB, a real RB, real receivers etc. Wait, that's a viable offense, what an epihiny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Prolly the authors stepson. DWC has a stepson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I thought Kotite was very successful and had a well above .500 record when fired by the Eagles and hired by the Jets? Did he not? I'm sure their are coaches out there who coached under Kotite, who went on to successful careers in the NFL but we never hear the "Kotite coaching tree", do we? Define "very successful" please. Kotite was about 8 games over .500 and had one playoff win as head coach of the Eagles, where he inherited a team with an all-time great defense and a pretty damn good QB in Randall Cunningham. He was also trending downward as he went 8-8 and 7-9 his last two years there. Also, as PAC pointed out, not one of Kotite's assistants ever got hired as a head coach AND cited Kotite as an influence on their coaching philosophy. Pettine has cited Rex as an obvious influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Define "very successful" please. Kotite was about 8 games over .500 and had one playoff win as head coach of the Eagles, where he inherited a team with an all-time great defense and a pretty damn good QB in Randall Cunningham. He was also trending downward as he went 8-8 and 7-9 his last two years there. Also, as PAC pointed out, not one of Kotite's assistants ever got hired as a head coach AND cited Kotite as an influence on their coaching philosophy. Pettine has cited Rex as an obvious influence. OK, I will redefine my meaning of coaching tree, as any coach, no matter his successes or failures, who has another coach who was an assistant, who credits that coach with influencing him. That should leave out Wayne Fontes, Rich Kotite, and Charlie Winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Ron Ehrhardt never got another job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Of course, Rex's father was both a head coach and a well-renowned DC-much more famous than any other DC-when he was with the Bears. So the coaching tree starts with Rex's father, it's already well along in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Bleacher report- just about anyone can apply for a position there. Case closed What's going to happen in 4 years when this kid turns 13, registers here and starts posting rings around everybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Seattle Seahawks? Maybe, with a competent coach and a great QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Of course, Rex's father was both a head coach and a well-renowned DC-much more famous than any other DC-when he was with the Bears. So the coaching tree starts with Rex's father, it's already well along in years.It has very few branches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 What's going to happen in 4 years when this kid turns 13, registers here and starts posting rings around everybody? I want to know what happened to that poster Youngjetsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I want to know what happened to that poster Youngjetsfan He found out how to disable the V chip in his computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It has very few branches. it actually has a ton of branches, including Sean Payton, John Fox, Jeff Fisher and Mike Munchak http://coachingroots.com/football/coaches/buddy-ryan/coaching-tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Good job for a kid, but you could have mentioned the Sanchez injury, signing the convict, cutting Cothery Dave and Busters, his penchant for doing really dumb things at the wrong time, overall an excellent star for a young writer, better than Cimini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The Jets beat BOTH the Pats and the Saints because of the RUN GAME. Ivory went off on both of them and while the d-line played well, I don't think it is THE REASON they won. Rex is what he is guys, a half a HC who is simply BELOVED by his owner who I think is still in the closet and has a man crush on slimmed down and sexy Rex-y. Idzik kept him for job security because you can never have too much of that. Rex is the most mediocre HC in the entire NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Rex is what he is guys, a half a HC who is simply BELOVED by his owner players. He's beloved by the players. Who don't quit on him no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The Jets beat BOTH the Pats and the Saints because of the RUN GAME. Ivory went off on both of them and while the d-line played well, I don't think it is THE REASON they won. Rex is what he is guys, a half a HC who is simply BELOVED by his owner who I think is still in the closet and has a man crush on slimmed down and sexy Rex-y. Idzik kept him for job security because you can never have too much of that. Rex is the most mediocre HC in the entire NFL. Rex is a great coach when he can run it 50 times, and keep the score in the 10-7 range, but when his teams actually have to play offense, then it becomes an exhibition on how not to use the forward pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 players. He's beloved by the players. Who don't quit on him no matter what. 7.2% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 players. He's beloved by the players. Who don't quit on him no matter what.Yeah Bitonti, except when they don't. I.E. Cincinnati, Buffalo, Tennessee...Jets players don't ALWAYS play hard for Rex as those games clearly showed. Jets were clocked in each of those by an inept offense and a defense that 'pretended' to tackle. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Rex's coaching tree consists of Pettine - whose daughter was NOT thrilled with him being hired in Cleveland and tweeted, 'It's the Browns but still pretty cool.' Really? With the Browns ownership I would have stayed in Buffalo rather than be the next guy fired after one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Maybe, with a competent coach and a great QB. They got the great Coach, all they need is the QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Yeah Bitonti, except when they don't. I.E. Cincinnati, Buffalo, Tennessee...Jets players don't ALWAYS play hard for Rex as those games clearly showed. Jets were clocked in each of those by an inept offense and a defense that 'pretended' to tackle. Anything else? it's crazy that this team with few good players actually lost a couple games. darn that Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Rex is a great coach when he can run it 50 times, and keep the score in the 10-7 range, but when his teams actually have to play offense, then it becomes an exhibition on how not to use the forward pass. W vs. Falcons - 30-28 W vs. Patriots - 30-27 W vs. Saints - 26-20 carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 They got the great Coach, all they need is the QB OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 W vs. Falcons - 30-28 W vs. Patriots - 30-27 W vs. Saints - 26-20 carry on What gave me the idea that these scores were going to brought up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 What gave me the idea that these scores were going to brought up? Knowing what you were typing was a fallacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Knowing what you were typing was a fallacy?Jets=offensive juggernaut? Don't need weapons do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 heres a question for all the rex haters: is John Fox a better coach than Rex Ryan? is Pete Carroll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 heres a question for all the rex haters: is John Fox a better coach than Rex Ryan? is Pete Carroll? John Fox is unquestionably a better coach than Rex. Carroll had many of the same failings as Rex, but learned how to run an entire program while at USC. I honestly don't know what you people think Rex does as a head coach that's so outstanding. He schemes a nice defense. That's it. Whoopee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Because if he ever gets the chance to team up with a good Offensive Coordinator, he can take the team places. He got stuck with Schotty for three years, then whiffed when he hired Sparano. Unloaded Sparano as soon as possible and got Marty, who did well considering personnel deficiencies even before injuries, of which there were plenty. Now the personnel issues can be addressed and we have a man in place who can use the personnel effectively. Then Rex can do what he does on the defensive side. And hopefully the young QB can throw to somebody who can make plays for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 John Fox is unquestionably a better coach than Rex. Such garbage. John Fox is 2 games over .500 without Peyton Manning and has a 2-14 season under his belt. You shrug off Rex's ability to scheme a defense as if it's not mportant. What exactly is John Fox known for? Literally no one is saying John Fox played a big part in getting the Broncos to the SB.. Jack Del Rio coached a large portion of the season for chrissakes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 What exactly is John Fox known for? Beating Rex with Tim Tebow as his starter and looking a little bit too much like Hershel from The Walking Dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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