AVM Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 The rest of it is either back and forth with Pac or after Pac said he shot him (so too WIFOMy to use) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I think that'd be the other way around, Hess signaling people. I'll go give it a look and see what I can find, I don't think he's had too many posts to make it impossible. JiF also said the same thing to me (I was voting him) and told anyone not voting him that they were idiots or scum. I meant JIF was letting Hess know they "saw" him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Just remembered.... Hess was the first to vote Crusher but quickly unvoted without saying anything when Crusher got up towards L2. I can go back and confirm but I've been neglecting work all morning because of this game. I'll look later. I'll go back and check for a quick unvote Could this have been some sort of hint? Hess calling Pac a dick? No, everyone already knows that....not a hint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 vote Ape. lot of love from Hess to Ape Where and when did this happen? PAC shooting Hess leads me to think PAC isn't scum cause Hess was hounding him. That being said two townie vig claimants seems odd. If I remember correctly PAC was also pushing at 80? Which if is the case I believe him slightly more. Leap in logic. I would not put it past Pac to shoot Hess because he thought he was saving his own ass. We haven't had two vig claims, we've had 80 claim to have 1 bullet (basically) and Pac, I'm not sure if he elaborated on whether or not he has multiple shots. Either way, there's probably a bunch of 1-shots and BPVs spread out. Probably no official full-time vig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 True, but I am not convinced still that Hess wasn't following JiF's wishes to signal him I may be misunderstanding you, but that's not how a symp would work. JiF wouldn't have any idea unless they figured out "Oh look Hess is signaling us!" Hess would be the one signaling JiF, not the other way around. What was Hess's role in Jaws? Can you paraphrase, I wasn't playing. Hess was the shark. Basically he was impossible to lynch and had infinite kills. There was a game mechanic involving people being bombs and Hess having to eat one of them. Unfortunately some dumbass revealed he was a bomb without much pressure and almost the rest of the bombs countered...so Hess knew to avoid them. Totally not awesome at all. And definitely not me. Anyways...point being, the comparison to that role would be that the Alien COULD be unlynchable and unkillable via bullets. It's not worth spending a lot of time on until we have more information, though. We Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 K so Hess picked 80 over JiF? Your quote looks weird Means nothing. Scum mates vote each other all the time. Go find where I pushed for 80... Have you guys ever seen Aliens? I'm not claiming townie vig.. I claim I had 1 shot. Which I made count. Good clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Business call for 4-5 hours. Avm what I was trying to say though is Hess was trying to signal jif by following jifs orders. Back later will catch up then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Hess did what JiF asked. JiF has been on a massive campaign of what I'm thinking now, is reverse pyschology. Symp aligned with JiF . This is my broken logic for town review More importantly, JIF brought up conversions FIRST. Symps, are often 1 player hidden - who can signal to scum - and if they find him/her, they can convert him to their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I meant JIF was letting Hess know they "saw" him. I got you. Possible...there was a ton of interaction between the two. Where and when did this happen? Leap in logic. I would not put it past Pac to shoot Hess because he thought he was saving his own ass. We haven't had two vig claims, we've had 80 claim to have 1 bullet (basically) and Pac, I'm not sure if he elaborated on whether or not he has multiple shots. Either way, there's probably a bunch of 1-shots and BPVs spread out. Probably no official full-time vig. Bolded 1: That was my first instinct, that Pac screwed up. Something in the re-read made me think not so much, I don't remember what. Regardless, this is only possible if JiF was not signaling back to Hess that they saw his signaling. Bolded 2: Agreed. Lends me to believe Pac and 80 for the time being. Entirely possible Pac was scum and screwed up or 3rd party but for the time being, I wouldn't think so. Once we get through one night phase and see how deaths/potential conversion/whatever goes, we'll probably have a better feel overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Like I said within the first 10-15 pages, I think Ape was on a massive misinformation and confusion campaign to mask his scumness. Hess aligned with him pretty early. FOS Ape and JiF How is it that I'm being blame for a misinformation campaign, but Jack's play is "acceptable"? You won't know this, but historically Hess has been THE hardest person for me to read. Look at CTM's avatar where it says "at least I'm not a snide little prick", that is what I called Hess the last time he duped me, because I can't read his play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 What was Hess's role in Jaws? Can you paraphrase, I wasn't playing. He could kill anything he wanted, and I think had only one scenario where he could be killed himself. Low odds. Something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I may be misunderstanding you, but that's not how a symp would work. JiF wouldn't have any idea unless they figured out "Oh look Hess is signaling us!" Hess would be the one signaling JiF, not the other way around. Hess was the shark. Basically he was impossible to lynch and had infinite kills. There was a game mechanic involving people being bombs and Hess having to eat one of them. Unfortunately some dumbass revealed he was a bomb without much pressure and almost the rest of the bombs countered...so Hess knew to avoid them. Totally not awesome at all. And definitely not me. Anyways...point being, the comparison to that role would be that the Alien COULD be unlynchable and unkillable via bullets. It's not worth spending a lot of time on until we have more information, though. We I was the last bomb remaining, and Hess knew it, but he rewarded me for playing half-decent and ate me. It was a pretty epic ending. Hess cracks me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 How is it that I'm being blame for a misinformation campaign, but Jack's play is "acceptable"? You won't know this, but historically Hess has been THE hardest person for me to read. Look at CTM's avatar where it says "at least I'm not a snide little prick", that is what I called Hess the last time he duped me, because I can't read his play. I always wondered where that came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Hess was the shark. Basically he was impossible to lynch and had infinite kills. There was a game mechanic involving people being bombs and Hess having to eat one of them. Unfortunately some dumbass revealed he was a bomb without much pressure and almost the rest of the bombs countered...so Hess knew to avoid them. Totally not awesome at all. And definitely not me. Anyways...point being, the comparison to that role would be that the Alien COULD be unlynchable and unkillable via bullets. It's not worth spending a lot of time on until we have more information, though. We Hess was keen to make town believe that Jif was unlynchable and unkillable. Which is ballsy given the symp connection, but genius if not caught.. unvote vote Jif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Regardless of Pac shooting Hess... Pac pinged me earlier in the game, when he agreed with my case on Smash "eww you saw the same things I did" and echoed all I had to say about Smash, but never voted him. I didn't like Pac was smooth-talking me into looking at other people. Pac doesn't usually want to scum hunt collaboratively, especially not with me (because I'd upstage him, LOL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Jack_D_ Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 FYI - I'm in an all day training today. Won't be active till this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Hess was keen to make town believe that Jif was unlynchable and unkillable. Which is ballsy given the symp connection, but genius if not caught.. unvote vote Jif This is really what it comes down to. Hess introduced the idea of Shark = Alien = JIF, and JIF introduced the idea of it being a conversion game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Ok unvote vote JiF ^^^This is the vote Pac was referencing. To give context: Crush had just gotten put at L-1 because 80 was tired of waiting to hear from him. yeah so JiF clearly has a dumb death wish. Not really interested in indulging his sadistic fantasies. thinking about how a Jester would incorporate into Aliens but not seeing it.. Also think there just might be multiple factions with a possible cult aspect.. Not sure what they're called but remember the little sucker things that look like a pussy with tentacles? They attach themselves to a host and impregnate them with Alien babies. That would be super cool if Leelou worked out a game mechanic to make that happen.. Not sure she has the mod chops for that though. This was actually the first mention of cult or conversions Is this based on the movie? If so, its definitely a cult type game. This was JiF, a few hours later (second to discuss it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Or lynch me. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Jack_D_ Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 yeah so JiF clearly has a dumb death wish. Not really interested in indulging his sadistic fantasies. thinking about how a Jester would incorporate into Aliens but not seeing it.. Also think there just might be multiple factions with a possible cult aspect.. Not sure what they're called but remember the little sucker things that look like a pussy with tentacles? They attach themselves to a host and impregnate them with Alien babies. That would be super cool if Leelou worked out a game mechanic to make that happen.. Not sure she has the mod chops for that though. Actually, Pac introduced the cult / conversion aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Pac is scum. I'm not. But lynch me. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Jack_D_ Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Actually, Pac introduced the cult / conversion aspect. He then stopped Bleed when bleed was asking about conversions etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Facehuggers Yup. I missed this before. Am I reading this out of context or what? Why is he calling 80 a hugger? As in Facehugger? Or is that referring to something else? Does 80 give good hugs? This was Nolder catching Crusher calling 80 the "hugger". to JiF next post.... I could kill Pac. Click on this and go read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Did Hess die? He was playing great. Shame. We would have this bitch figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 If you lynch me. Pac, Ishy, crusher. Swish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Is this based on the movie? If so, its definitely a cult type game. Well it's cult + mafia then. Lol it's gunna be a sh*tstorm I think they coorperation can recruit...and guess who they recruited? 80 duh he needs to die or me When was he recruited? You jumped on it right off the bat and there was no scene. This was the rest of the interesting "cult" findings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I think that'd be the other way around, Hess signaling people. I'll go give it a look and see what I can find, I don't think he's had too many posts to make it impossible. Only disadvantage to blowing up 2 scum on D1 is that it's hard to gain much information off of them on who their scummates might be, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Training is back. Hope to be alive later so I can batman this bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Jack_D_ Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Yup. This was Nolder catching Crusher calling 80 the "hugger". Click on this and go read it. If crusher was signaling hugger does that mean the cult possibly has a symp? And you also called 80 a hugger. Just assumed it was an inside joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Vote Count Smash (5) - Crusher, Ape, 80, Pac, Nol Pac (2) - Lily, JiF JiF (2) - Bee Gee, CTM Crusher (1) - Smash Ishy (1) - Jack Not voting - Ishy, AVM With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Training is back. Hope to be alive later so I can batman this bitch. Good. I hope your desire for suicide (or my death) is done with now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Pac is scum. I'm not. But lynch me. Haha Not 80? Lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Good. I hope your desire for suicide (or my death) is done with now. Death by a thousand hugs or suicide--easy choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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