Matt39 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 This is what Begley wrote: Ian Begley@IanBegley 1h1 hour ago Worth noting on J.R. Smith: his contract has a 15 percent trade kicker applied to remaining salary this year. Has to be paid by the #Knicks. I would believe the same applies to Melo's trade kicker. The thing is, the cap is set to explode in 2016-17, so I think a competitive team would be willing to take on Melo's salary for 2015-16, knowing that there will be way more cap room the following year. And I don't think Melo would want to go to LA because Kobe already announced he's retiring after next season. Good stuff, interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Knicks rebuilding process would be in good shape if not for that stupid Bargnani trade. They need a 2016 1st rounder. Jax should try to find a way to make a trade with Toronto to get it back. Pipe dream, I know, but still. That said, I'll still to my only dream for now--Okafor/Towns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombdirt Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 So long, J.R. Thanks for the memories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VastXQ_hPb0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 We aint getting of melo unless one of the la teams wants him or cavs want to do a swap Melo for Love which is a no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Fare thee well, pimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Meh. Brow-lite >> Al Jefferson-lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Meh. Brow-lite >> Al Jefferson-lite he's been compared to tim duncan, only more polished at this age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 he's been compared to tim duncan, only more polished at this age His offensive game, hands, and footwork are polished, probably to the point that he's not too far from his ceiling. He's nowhere near the athlete, rebounder, or defender that young Duncan was... not to mention that Duncan's demeanor and approach to the game are a huge part of what made him a success (as was being coached by Pop). That being said, I see him as more Al Jefferson than a potential top-10 player in NBA history. His floor is very high, which makes him a safe pick, but Towns' ceiling is higher IMO, and offers a more valuable skillset to the Knicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 His offensive game, hands, and footwork are polished, probably to the point that he's not too far from his ceiling. He's nowhere near the athlete, rebounder, or defender that young Duncan was... not to mention that Duncan's demeanor and approach to the game are a huge part of what made him a success (as was being coached by Pop). That being said, I see him as more Al Jefferson than a potential top-10 player in NBA history. His floor is very high, which makes him a safe pick, but Towns' ceiling is higher IMO, and offers a more valuable skillset to the Knicks. I havent watched nearly enough college hoops this year, so I trust you on that. What really F's the Knicks is the Bargnani trade. But what else is new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I havent watched nearly enough college hoops this year, so I trust you on that. What really F's the Knicks is the Bargnani trade. But what else is new. Well, I haven't watched much NBA basketball this year, for obvious reasons.... and the Johnnies have restored some interest in the college game for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 His offensive game, hands, and footwork are polished, probably to the point that he's not too far from his ceiling. He's nowhere near the athlete, rebounder, or defender that young Duncan was... not to mention that Duncan's demeanor and approach to the game are a huge part of what made him a success (as was being coached by Pop). That being said, I see him as more Al Jefferson than a potential top-10 player in NBA history. His floor is very high, which makes him a safe pick, but Towns' ceiling is higher IMO, and offers a more valuable skillset to the Knicks. Okafor seems like the safer pick, his post-game is probably the best that I've seen in a kid at his level in a very, very long time. KA Towns seems to have a higher ceiling, to what degree that is over Okafor is anybody's guess, but I think he'd be the pick if I had the choice. I also like Mudiay quite a bit, kid's got crazy potential (from the view videos online that they've shown), but I go for the PF/C ten times out of ten. Looks like there's three to four franchise-changing players this year, but it's going to take a season or two for them to make a big impact at the next level. Too bad we have to deal with Anthony's window and contract in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Okafor seems like the safer pick, his post-game is probably the best that I've seen in a kid at his level in a very, very long time. KA Towns seems to have a higher ceiling, to what degree that is over Okafor is anybody's guess, but I think he'd be the pick if I had the choice. I also like Mudiay quite a bit, kid's got crazy potential (from the view videos online that they've shown), but I go for the PF/C ten times out of ten. Looks like there's three to four franchise-changing players this year, but it's going to take a season or two for them to make a big impact at the next level. Too bad we have to deal with Anthony's window and contract in the meantime. I don't think you can go wrong with either Okafor or Towns. Just hope the Alien Commissioner doesn't screw us out of a top 2 pick and gives the top picks to their precious Lakers and Celtics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Need to figure out a way to dump Melo. Wish we could fast forward to June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Need to figure out a way to dump Melo. Wish we could fast forward to June. This whole season may be a big I TOLD YOU SO! from Jackson to Dolan to make that exact point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Like Vin said I dont think you can go wrong with either Okafor or Towns. Also Hector, isnt it a little early to hate on Knicks draft pick before they take him. That's T0m's job. That said, Duncan wasnt Duncan at 19 and Okafor is a better rookie, even defensively at this age. Duncan didn't become who he was as a prospect until he entered his junior year. The Bargnani trade continues to be an abomination. They need a 2016 first. Lastly, with the trade exceptions and cap explosion coming soon the ability to trade Melo will be easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Shopping Calderon and Bargnani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 This whole season may be a big I TOLD YOU SO! from Jackson to Dolan to make that exact point. More drama with the Knicks medical staff and Melo. He "may" or may not" need surgery. I can't believe we resigned this clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 5-36 at halfway point. The tank is rolling. But sitting Early to play a 32 yr old on a 10 day contract is stupid. Also, they need to shut Melo down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Shopping Calderon and Bargnani Whatever happens with the rebuild next year - please no more crappy Euro-players who play no defense. PLEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 The Bargnani trade continues to be an abomination. They need a 2016 first. Lastly, with the trade exceptions and cap explosion coming soon the ability to trade Melo will be easier We probably make the playoffs last year if it wasn't for the stupid Bargnani trade. That guy KILLED the raptors for years look at what happened as soon as he left? lol I think we have to trade Melo to the Lakers. I DO NOT want to trade Melo to Cleveland for Love - Love is the most overrated player in sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 5-36 at halfway point. The tank is rolling. But sitting Early to play a 32 yr old on a 10 day contract is stupid. Also, they need to shut Melo down. Yea, pretty bogus, Early's game seemed to be improving and unfortunately THJ's game was going the opposite way. Okafor looked silky today in the second half vs Louisville. I forget how the new system works, but if we finish dead last, how do the odds work again, the worst we could pick is 6th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Fourth. I think it's something like even odds we get either the first or the second pick, so it's a coin flip if you like Towns too. I think Okafor is the pick at 1 for sure and I don't know that Towns would necessarily be the pick at 2. In that situation I'd be concerned that Phil might be inclined to take a crack at teaching Mudiay to shoot. We will probably buy a pick too but, again, Phil. We are probably screwed forever if we don't win the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Lakers and Celtics are picking 1 & 2 guys. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Just ran numbers. Some bullet points: Okafor is on the high end of the range of players that are candidates for the top pick in years where there isn't a slam dunk #1. At the same time, the translatability of the scoring efficiency from which a lot of his value is derived is sort of a dicey proposition. The offensive rebounding is pretty bankable though. Delon Wright really stands out among the non-bigs. Robert Upshaw kind of gets lost in the shuffle as far as centers and is going to wind up being solid value for somebody. Kentucky is the real eye-opener, though. I don't think this is the best college team I've seen but it might be the best collection of NBA prep talent. They have three seven-footers with PAWS40 over 12, and the metric systemically underrates players on stacked teams. Not exactly a black swan riding a unicorn but not something you're likely to see again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Yea, pretty bogus, Early's game seemed to be improving and unfortunately THJ's game was going the opposite way. Okafor looked silky today in the second half vs Louisville. I forget how the new system works, but if we finish dead last, how do the odds work again, the worst we could pick is 6th? Like MLH said, the worse the Knicks could fall is 4th if they have the worse record. Here is the odds breakdown of the top three in losses: Seed Chances 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th 13th 14th 1 250 .250 .215 .178 .357 2 199 .199 .188 .171 .319 .123 3 156 .156 .157 .156 .226 .265 .040 If Knicks get the No. 1, there's no way in hell Phil is passing on Okafor. What will be interesting is if the Knicks get the 2nd pick, but I think Towns would be the choice there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Lakers and Celtics are picking 1 & 2 guys. Sorry The NBA has a vested interest in the Knicks getting a top pick rather than the Celtics. That said, the NBA would be giddy if it was 1. Knicks, 2. Lakers, 3. Celtics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Okafor is on the high end of the range of players that are candidates for the top pick in years where there isn't a slam dunk #1. At the same time, the translatability of the scoring efficiency from which a lot of his value is derived is sort of a dicey proposition. The offensive rebounding is pretty bankable though. So skinny Eddy Curry? I hate sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 is it safe to open my eyes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 So skinny Eddy Curry? I hate sports.I was compelled to neg rep this. EC and IT are 2 names never to be mentioned nor any current person compared to. That hurt, Rutgers, that hurt. Okafor is the dream I've dreamed. Don't kill it. I'm about to go Anne Hathaway right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzNVmZfNoa8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Okafor is a pumped up Kurt Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Interesting to note that the Knicks have had 6 square-foot records this season: 1-1, 2-4, 3-9, 4-16, 5-25, and 6-36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I was compelled to neg rep this. EC and IT are 2 names never to be mentioned nor any current person compared to. That hurt, Rutgers, that hurt. Okafor is the dream I've dreamed. Don't kill it. I'm about to go Anne Hathaway right now. VEE BELEEVE IN NAHTHING LEBOWSKI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The NBA has a vested interest in the Knicks getting a top pick rather than the Celtics. That said, the NBA would be giddy if it was 1. Knicks, 2. Lakers, 3. Celtics. NBA doesn't care about the Knicks they want the Lakers and Celtics to get the top 2 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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