KRL Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 With Gailey being up there in age and DeFilippo so young I wonder if Bowles has this in mind if he comes on board? Gailey could be the OC for a year and install the spread and then DeFilippo could take over. He has an impressive resume and reputation: Resume http://www.raiders.com/team/coaches/john-defilippo/ecdec84f-989e-4b76-a7bf-0fbbdabbde75 Reputation http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/01/browns_oc_candidate_john_defil.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Who are Bowles bar buddies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 We just hired a new OC literally a few days ago and you're already speculating on his replacement? No offense, and love your camp reports, but please stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 i could buy it. with all due respect to Chan and while I'm starting to get pretty optimistic about him as our OC, he has been out of football for 2 years and is getting old. not too crazy to think that DeFilippo is being brought in as a coach in waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 We just hired a new OC literally a few days ago and you're already speculating on his replacement? No offense, and love your camp reports, but please stop. No, don't stop. We have plenty of time. If our new management is thinking ahead that is something to be excited about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 i could buy it. with all due respect to Chan and while I'm starting to get pretty optimistic about him as our OC, he has been out of football for 2 years and is getting old. not too crazy to think that DeFilippo is being brought in as a coach in waiting. Do u know who Ron Earhardt is/was ? Do you know how old he was when he was OC of the Jints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 It's kind of pointless to groom a young coach into the OC position considering if he is successful for a couple of years he will leave to be a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I was listening to a podcast last night and they mentioned something similar. You never know. What I can say is that Bowles are picking people who has had success. Derek Carr looked like he should have been the first QB off the board. If Bowles is thinking that far ahead then it just shows how smart this guy is. Let the players know your staff and hire from within so there's no hiccup during the transition a couple years from now. Though there is no proof that this is accurate I will give Bowles the credit any damn way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 It sure gives the appearance that the coaching staff and the FO has at least a thought about the O if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persiussa Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 It's an interesting thought but with a guy like lebeau being in his late seventies and still coaching chan might have more left in the tank than we think. I wonder if he retired because he wanted to or because the offers stopped rolling in. He may have been taking paid years off after being fired as a head coach too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 With Gailey being up there in age and DeFilippo so young I wonder if Bowles has this in mind if he comes on board? Gailey could be the OC for a year and install the spread and then DeFilippo could take over. He has an impressive resume and reputation: Resume http://www.raiders.com/team/coaches/john-defilippo/ecdec84f-989e-4b76-a7bf-0fbbdabbde75 Reputation http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/01/browns_oc_candidate_john_defil.html Brilliant!! Bowles/Maccagnan have already prepared the sacrificial lamb(Gailey) for when the offense screws everything up again. Then DiFilipo comes in after having a year to coach up the young QB(Marriota/Winston/Petty) as OC It's called "Hedging your Bets" LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleU Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 As Gary Myers said last evening on Daily News Live, Gailey had plenty of offers to come back as a coordinator the last 2 years, but as a fired head coach, he needed time to readjust to that role again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 With Gailey being up there in age and DeFilippo so young I wonder if Bowles has this in mind if he comes on board? Gailey could be the OC for a year and install the spread and then DeFilippo could take over. He has an impressive resume and reputation: Resume http://www.raiders.com/team/coaches/john-defilippo/ecdec84f-989e-4b76-a7bf-0fbbdabbde75 Reputation http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/01/browns_oc_candidate_john_defil.html Hopefully that's the case that's how guys like Macadoo and Lazor moved up while grooming young QB's. Did we hire DeFilippo yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy_8577 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Galley is 63, lebeau is 77, Chana got a solid 5 years imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonix Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 i could buy it. with all due respect to Chan and while I'm starting to get pretty optimistic about him as our OC, he has been out of football for 2 years and is getting old. not too crazy to think that DeFilippo is being brought in as a coach in waiting. That's what I was thinking. Chan might only be here 1-2 years; then the new QB coach takes over-- that's thinking forward, and very creatively. Unusual for the Jets.! DeFilippo did excellent work with Derek Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Do u know who Ron Earhardt is/was ? Do you know how old he was when he was OC of the Jints nope and nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 i could buy it. with all due respect to Chan and while I'm starting to get pretty optimistic about him as our OC, he has been out of football for 2 years and is getting old. not too crazy to think that DeFilippo is being brought in as a coach in waiting. Gailey born '52. Pete Carroll born '51. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 DeFilippo had some interviews for OC, I wonder if he'll be available for a QB coach role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I felt that this one was pretty awesome. We'd be a fool to give up on Geno Smith. Articles like this shows me why Gailey gets production from his QB's. Chan Gailey's Offense: The Spread By John B on Jan 17 2015, 12:50p 38 Timothy T. Ludwig-USA TODAY Spor TWEET (5) SHARE (6) SHARE This will be the first installment in an I don't know how many part series over the course of the offseason taking a look at some of the concepts in Chan Gailey's offense. Chan Gailey in his last stop in Buffalo embraced a spread offense. What is a spread offense? It's a term you hear a lot. There are many different varieties, but what it ultimately means is the offense uses a lot of formations with players lined up spread across the entire field rather than one that keeps its players in the same general area before the snap. Gailey has used a number of different offensive styles in his years, but his time in Buffalo indicates he has adapted to the new age reliance on the spread. Why do I say that? In his final season with the Bills, no team had a higher percentage of plays with 3 or more receivers and no team ran a higher percentage of plays with an empty backfield. Gailey's three most productive receivers that year were Stevie Johnson, Donald Jones, and T.J. Graham. This seems to indicate Gailey's philosophy focusing on the spread than him using it because of personnel. So what are the advantages to going heavy with a spread offense? The biggest one is probably spacing. The less defenders there are in an area, the better things are for the offense. Why? Because more defenders means more players capable of making a tackle. If you have three guys in an area, and guy one misses, two more will be there to clean up. By stretching the defense out horizontally over the entire field, it puts less defenders into the area no matter where the ball goes. For a visual representation, look at the high tech GGN graphics below. In these graphics, X's are offensive players. The red X is the player with the ball. O's are defensive players. In the top graphic, the three offensive players are all in the same area. Each is covered by one defensive player. Since the offensive players are in the same area, the defensive players are too. There are three players capable of making the tackle. In the bottom graphic, the offensive players are spread into different areas. The defensive players are too. Now there is only one player who can tackle the ball handler. A missed tackle could mean a big play. This has an impact in the passing game, but it does in the run game too. With receivers spread out across the field, there are less players in the box. Look at the top picture out of a spread formation against the bottom in a traditional I formation with a tight end. The top has five combined defensive linemen and linebackers close to the line. The bottom has seven. The other team has to either move linebackers and linemen away or replace them with backup defensive backs. The offense does lose two blockers, a tight end and a fullback, but that can be a winning trade for a team without strong blockers in those positions like the Jets currently. Instead of having those players block, their redeployment eliminates original tacklers. For a back like Ivory, having less big guys to deal with is probably an advantage anyway. One missed tackle, and he can run a long way. That thing about forcing the defense to take starting linebackers and linemen off the field and replacing them with defensive backs is something to consider on any play. You presumably weaken a defense when you force it to play backups instead of starters. All of these are potential advantages to using spread formations heavily, but the biggest one might be the manner in which they make the lives of the quarterback easy. Now think about passing plays and use the same two pictures above. By forcing more defenders away from the snap, you have limited the blitz possibilities. Less guys lined up near the ball mean less potential blitzers and blitz combinations. There's a reason there are not many men on this planet capable of playing the position effectively in the NFL. A quarterback has to synthesize a ton of information immediately after the snap. Within three seconds give or take, he has determine how many players are blitzing, what the coverage looks like underneath, how many defenders are over the top, and how his current playcall meshes with that. Spreading the defense out can help the quarterback determine at least some of this before the snap and leave less on his plate after the snap. If you have five guys split wide and somebody not lined up against all of them, you can guess the coverage is some sort of zone. If you have a tight end or back who is a particularly adept receiver, you can split him wide and see whether the defense will tip you presnap. This one happened to the Jets. It is Rob Gronkowski. Before the snap, Calvin Pryor is lined up across from him. There aren't many reasons a safety would be out wide like that across from a tight end if he is not going to be in man coverage. In this case, Tom Brady could see the coverage. Even more, he could see that this man coverage had given him a mismatch, Pryor vs. Gronkowski, so he could attack it. Right off the snap, he fired for a touchdown. Does this sound like a way to use Jace Amaro? I think it might be. There are plenty of things to discuss with Chan Gailey's offense. The first impacts the play before the snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Gailey born '52. Pete Carroll born '51. cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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