#27TheDominator Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Let's pick up Arian Foster and stash him away for next season. Isn't he still under contract? I guess we could trade for him and pick up his $7M salary next year, but I might wait. Makes as much sense as Ray Rice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 Isn't he still under contract? I guess we could trade for him and pick up his $7M salary next year, but I might wait. Makes as much sense as Ray Rice though. Sense would be to have a viable backup RB on the roster prior to yesterdays game many of us were worried when we only dressed 2 RBs and one was Stacey Ray Rice is available and would come cheap vet minimum why not take at chance at this point we have nothing to lose Look what CJ is doing in Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 On the surface, Chris Johnson was probably a hold. He played well last year for us the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhuntr Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 happy to oblige. Ray Rice is no scat back. He was slow as sh!t the last season he played. He was close to done long before he punched out his girl at the Revel. That's what she probably told him before he clocked her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Sense would be to have a viable backup RB on the roster prior to yesterdays game many of us were worried when we only dressed 2 RBs and one was Stacey Ray Rice is available and would come cheap vet minimum why not take at chance at this point we have nothing to lose Look what CJ is doing in Arizona What does what Chris Johnson is doing in Arizona have to do with Ray Rice? Every team is avoiding Rice like the plague. Sure he is being blackballed to some extent, but if he could play they'd forget that right quick. Stacy is a "viable backup." So is Bilal Powell. So is Stevan Ridley. No amount of romanticizing free agents changes that. They are not pro bowl players. Big whoop. On the surface, Chris Johnson was probably a hold. He played well last year for us the second half. I think he, Vick and Harvin are the kind of guys you do not want around a young staff, but I guess that is what you meant by "on the surface." At least Harvin has the benefit of being a bit young and having some sunken cost. I guess they are carrying some dead money for Johnson, but I'm glad they dumped him. FWIW, I thought I was the only one that didn't think that Johnson was an outright horror last year. He was much worse catching passes than I'd hoped, but he didn't seem like such a disaster running the ball to me. Worst part was basically him taking carries from a healthy Ivory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 Houston Texans Rumors: Alfred Blue Starter After Arian Foster Injury, Ray Rice, Pierre Thomas, Montee Ball Options as Ryan Mallett Released for Brian Hoyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I wanted Gurly or Johnson in the draft as much as I love Ivory there is always the chance he gets hurt due to the way he runs . If the Jets truly feel they are a SB contender then they go and get Forte before the trade deadline. Yes hes 30 and yes he has a big contract but if you want a SB that's what you have to do. Forte and Ivory would be the best RB tandem in the NFL and give Fitz the best check down option there is available. He would truly make our offense elite This team can easily get 2-3 years out of Forte and lets face it we are built to win now or we would not have signed a 30 year old WR and 2.. 30 year old corners This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 What does what Chris Johnson is doing in Arizona have to do with Ray Rice? Every team is avoiding Rice like the plague. Sure he is being blackballed to some extent, but if he could play they'd forget that right quick. Stacy is a "viable backup." So is Bilal Powell. So is Stevan Ridley. No amount of romanticizing free agents changes that. They are not pro bowl players. Big whoop. I think he, Vick and Harvin are the kind of guys you do not want around a young staff, but I guess that is what you meant by "on the surface." At least Harvin has the benefit of being a bit young and having some sunken cost. I guess they are carrying some dead money for Johnson, but I'm glad they dumped him. FWIW, I thought I was the only one that didn't think that Johnson was an outright horror last year. He was much worse catching passes than I'd hoped, but he didn't seem like such a disaster running the ball to me. Worst part was basically him taking carries from a healthy Ivory. yeah, on the surface meaning he's clearly better than Powell and Stacy(and probably Ridley too). He was way better the second half than the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Matt Forte averaged 3.9 ypc in 2014. Ray Rice hasn't played since 2013 when he averaged 3.1 ypc. These are the guys you are trumpeting while you insult Stevan Ridley. It's tragi-comical. Matt Forte plays on a team with a horrible offensive line and his running ability is not even what we should be after. He's a great receiver out of the backfield, something we lack. This team has zero outlets/check downs for the QB we have no TE and no one who is a receiving threat out of the backfield. Forte would open up the entire offense and he is a dynamic player in both the screen game and making something out of nothing. He's 30 and will not have to be the main back here which may add years to his career if Chicago is willing to trade him (which they obviously are) we talk to him about a restructure with that in mind, since this is a good place for him to possibly extend his career and get a SB, and see if its doable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Actually his numbers don't look so bad I'm not a cap guy and I don't know how much of his guaranteed money is already paid but he's UFA next year So not a restructure but an extension Contract: 4 yr(s) / $30,400,000 Signing Bonus $4,000,000 Average Salary$7,600,000 Guaranteed:$17,100,000 Free Agent:2016 / UFA Contract: 4 yr(s) / $30,400,000 Signing Bonus $4,000,000 Average Salary $7,600,000 Guaranteed $17,100,000 Free Agent: 2016 / UFA Year Age Base Salary Signing Bonus Roster Bonus Workout Bonus Cap Hit Dead Cap 2012 26 $800,000 $1,000,000 $5,000,000 - $6,800,000 - 2013 27 $1,700,000 $1,000,000 $4,568,750 - $7,268,750 $7,000,000 2014 28 $5,950,000 $1,000,000 $850,000 $100,000 $7,900,000 $2,100,000 2015 29 $7,050,000 $1,000,000 $1,050,000 $100,000 $9,200,000 $1,100,000 2016 30 UFA Contract Notes: $17.1 million guaranteed $9.8M initially guaranteed Signing Bonus: $4 million 2012 Roster Bonus: $5 million 2013 Roster Bonus: $4.5 million 2013 Per-Game Bonus: $500,000 2014 Per Game Bonus: $850,000 2015 Per Game Bonus: $1.05 million 2013-15 Workout Bonus: $100,000 Incentives: $4 million 1,625 Combined Yards: $400,000 15 TD: $100,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 2015 Per Game Bonus: $1.05 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Zach Stacy might be the worst Football player I've ever witnessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 Zach Stacy might be the worst Football player I've ever witnessed. Agree he offers this team nothing there are much better options available on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 chris johnson ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 chris johnson ? WTF right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 Knowshon Moreno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 jowilly, maccagnan needs you ! you have to do better than this !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 jowilly, maccagnan needs you ! you have to do better than this !!!! Thanks Larz now that I have your attention leave the game threads to me from this point on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Should have kicked the tires on D'Angelo Williams before the Steelers did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 There has to be someone out there better than Stacey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Thanks Larz now that I have your attention leave the game threads to me from this point on. show up at midnight and make one, who is stopping you ? you are an odd bird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Ummm... I'm a fan of Stacey and think he should get more carries. The only obvious problem is ivory looks great and there's no reason to give carries to someone else. Am I the only one that likes Stacey? Weird. I don't get the hate...has he really had enough opportunities to say he's a JAG? I don't see it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 show up at midnight and make one, who is stopping you ? you are an odd bird Relax Larz just messing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 In hindsight probably should've picked up Pierre Thomas. But hey 4-2 and played the best team in NFL tough. Could be--and has been--a helluva lot worse. He's still available and nobody else is picking up either, even though they have their stud RBs failing or hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Ummm... I'm a fan of Stacey and think he should get more carries. The only obvious problem is ivory looks great and there's no reason to give carries to someone else. Am I the only one that likes Stacey? Weird. I don't get the hate...has he really had enough opportunities to say he's a JAG? I don't see it that way. I didn't care for the Stacy trade when they made it. I didn't mind him sticking to the roster, but not there's a reason Jeff Fisher had Benny Cunningham ahead of him, and then drafted Tre Mason and Todd Gurley to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 I didn't care for the Stacy trade when they made it. I didn't mind him sticking to the roster, but not there's a reason Jeff Fisher had Benny Cunningham ahead of him, and then drafted Tre Mason and Todd Gurley to replace him. Exactly this guy offers us nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 If we weren't still wiping away the stench of the circus Rice wouldn't be a bad guy to kick the tires on. He looked good last preseason before the second video came out. Stacy is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 If we weren't still wiping away the stench of the circus Rice wouldn't be a bad guy to kick the tires on. He looked good last preseason before the second video came out. Stacy is horrible. Second chance he made a mistake people are so damn judgmental until its them who make a mistake. Ray Rice would come cheap and have a chip on his shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Second chance he made a mistake people are so damn judgmental until its them who make a mistake. Ray Rice would come cheap and have a chip on his shoulder. Funny how we only want to give second chances to the guys we want to sign. The other guys should be locked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Funny how we only want to give second chances to the guys we want to sign. The other guys should be locked up. Name an instance where I said something to the effect of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Name an instance where I said something to the effect of that. That doesn't say I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Ivory best in the NFL Stacey a JAG Powell? Ray Rice Discuss negative rep me hate me we need a change of pace back I gave you a negative rep just for mentioning the words "need" and "Ray Rice" in the same post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 He's still available and nobody else is picking up either, even though they have their stud RBs failing or hurt. to be completely accurate he has gotten at least one deal that he rejected. So someone out there liked what they saw after a workout. Plus he is exactly what the jets lack: a pass catching third down back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 to be completely accurate he has gotten at least one deal that he rejected. So someone out there liked what they saw after a workout. Plus he is exactly what the jets lack: a pass catching third down back. I'm just saying he's still out there, your post sounded like we missed out on him. Agree though, I think he'd fill a huge hole in this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I'm just saying he's still out there, your post sounded like we missed out on him. Agree though, I think he'd fill a huge hole in this offense. ya we did miss out on him in the sense we couldve been using him for 6 weeks. Do i think it wouldve made a win/loss difference? Probably not but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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